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Cobra Kai is a 10/10 and better than it has any right to be (LTTP Karate Kid sequel show)
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Just finished season 1 and the thread title is 100% accurate. I binged it in 2 days which is pretty unusual for me.
Why was miguel's last move considered dishonorable though? Is it because he hit the shoulder? They focused the shot on him holding robby's leg alluding he might break it or something like in the original but just did a regular hit afterwards. Probably missed something.
Why was miguel's last move considered dishonorable though? Is it because he hit the shoulder? They focused the shot on him holding robby's leg alluding he might break it or something like in the original but just did a regular hit afterwards. Probably missed something.
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Yeah, he injured the shoulder. Remember the scene with Daniel and him in the locker room. Robby was going to drop out, and Daniel looked like he was going to use magical Miyagi healing on his shoulder but called for a medic instead.
Then in the match Robby pulled off that move that Daniel could never master, which only requires one hand to do. (One hand on the floor, kick with both feet)
Is that an actual thing in Karate? Like some code not to hit your opponent where they are injured? I don't really know much about martial arts but it sounds like it handicaps your opponent unless they their win to be labeled "dishonorable".
In most martial arts, you're not supposed to maim your opponent, no.
Especially in a karate tournament. You're not going for a knock out, you're trying to score points with clean, unblocked hits. (But you aren't aiming to injure)
Actually, the worst injury I've seen in a karate tournament happened to my dad. He got a toenail in the eye.
Haha. That's why he's the villain. :P
Haha. That's why he's the villain. :P
It wasn't just hitting the shoulder, though, it was also when Robby offered to help him up after kicking him down and Miguel went for a shoulder tug, which earned him a penalty, THEN kicking the shoulder. Both of those in conjunction amount to a pretty dick move.
Finished s2 just now and it really is an amazingly weird show. It really shouldn't exist in 2020. Even though there's so much cliche teenage sports movie bullshit in it, it's so goddamn pitch perfect. I don't care that it sometimes feels like I'm watching Seventh Heaven with Karate. It's glorious.
The one thing I really wish for in s3 is that they work on some of the casts skills a bit more. Hawk, Miguel, Johnny, Tory and Robby can really deliver, but the rest of the cast is really kind of lackluster. Which makes perfect sense for young actors working in TV (and Ralph Macchio, I guess), but it's the one thing bringing it down at this point. That said, the finale in S2 really was surprisingly well choreographed (and shot) for TV, and the fight(s) carried real emotional weight.
I really hope they let it go after s3, though. They set up for a nice grand finale, I really hope they don't overstay their welcome.
I'm sure someone said they had enough material for ten seasons 😂
She had personal/money problems, I think. Maybe those problems started to manifest in her job?
Anyway, it's a shame. I liked her character, and she had great karate moves.
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I doubt it. It was one of those cheap licensed cartoons that they'd make to milk franchises more.
I'm sure Daniel would have mentioned his globe trotting adventures as crime fighter with Mr. Miyagi by now.
Course, there will be flashbacks in S3 of when Daniel surfed a torpedo
Macchio confirmed in a Conan O'Brien interview that they did indeed shoot in Okinawa for real this time. Here's hoping for some insane locations.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait...... WTF is this, and why wasn't I aware of it?!
The showrunners have said that their show's (current?) canon is every movie that had Pat Morita as Mr. Miyagi.
That means that Karate Kid 1-3 are canon (obviously, as all three have already been referenced in seasons 1&2), but Hilary Swank's movie "The Next Karate Kid" (aka Karate Kid 4) is also explicitly canon (even though it hasn't been referenced yet). A Hilary Swank cameo is something that the showrunners definitely want, assuming they can work something out with Hilary Swank, and/or her agent.
The Jaden Smith/Jackie Chan reboot movie is implied to be ruled out of canon (since it doesn't have Pat Morita), even though Will Smith is a producer on Cobra Kai (due to Will Smith's financial involvement in the reboot, but also due to Will Smith's love of the franchise). But it would be fairly simple to include the reboot movie in the same world, it's just as-yet not connected in any obvious way. Ralph Macchio is also a producer on Cobra Kai, and he said that the reboot movie was great, his only complaint was that they should have called it the Kung Fu Kid, since the movie is explicitly about Kung Fu, not Karate. Getting Jaden Smith on board for Cobra Kai might be rather simple (since Will Smith is apparently on board, behind the scenes), but Jackie Chan might be more difficult, and screw Jackie Chan, because he's a Chinese Communist Party bootlicker.
The cartoon is implied to be not canon, since it has Mr. Miyagi, but not Pat Morita, and it's not a movie. And it would be difficult to make it canon.
And how they all smiled over the crew dying in the explosion of the ship
A 13 episode cartoon from 1989.
A miniature shrine with magic powers is taken from its resting place on Okinawa, and it is up to Miyagi and Daniel to recover it. Together with Okinawan girl Taki Tamurai, the karatekas search the globe and, naturally, encounter several opportunities to fight their way out of trouble.
Let's not forget the radical 200 foot landing they somehow made in an AMC Gremlin.
So I just binged the show and absolutely loved it! Honestly, don't know why I never gave it a watch on youtube.
Though it sucks that Netflix will be sitting on season 3 for over a year. Did they ever state why?
Though it sucks that Netflix will be sitting on season 3 for over a year. Did they ever state why?
I presume that its simply a function of rationing out their IP - so many of their shows hit pause due to COVID and are just resuming production now 6 months later. So I would assume the first half of 2021 is a bit of a wasteland for them so they decided to hold S3 to have something to get them through some lean months.
I just keep thinking about how much older all the kids will be when they start filming season 4.
Definitely, will be 2 years between S3 and S4 as opposed to the 1 year between previous seasons.
Between season 1 and 2 the kid who played Dimitri had a huge growth spurt.
I recently finished S2 and I love all these characters. I feel bad that Aisha is not going to be back. She was one of my favorites.
Really looking forward to season 3.
Really looking forward to season 3.
This is insane!
And the way all these easter eggs are integrated into the show is very smart. You can see the love and respect the creators have for the source material.
I genuinely thought that Cobra Kai was a fan made YouTube show, however since it came to Netflix I've watched season one and I've started season two.
It's pretty good, the Easter eggs and callbacks are done very well, the only things I don't like is that sometimes it feels like a teenage drama and that some of the plot points only start because the characters don't talk to each other.
I feel like sometimes Danny's wife Amanda is representing the show audience as she's often like 'why are you doing this?'.
It's pretty good, the Easter eggs and callbacks are done very well, the only things I don't like is that sometimes it feels like a teenage drama and that some of the plot points only start because the characters don't talk to each other.
I feel like sometimes Danny's wife Amanda is representing the show audience as she's often like 'why are you doing this?'.
I can't even begin to describe how much I love this show. I started watching it with my sister and fiancé as a background show, but by the time S2 ended, I was obsessed. I think part of it is as someone who lost the parent lottery and has a lot of childhood/young adult trauma, I'm a huge sucker for redemption stories and for people finding themselves/trying to change/standing on their own. I am 100% invested in Johnny's story (and holy shit, I have a huge crush on Billy Zabka) which shocked me because he starts off as a real piece of shit who I'd absolutely hate if I met him IRL.
I've watched a lot of interviews the past couple of days and it's really heartwarming to see how much Billy Zabka and Ralph Macchio love what they're doing, and also how much the creators of the show (Josh, Jon and Hayden) completely understand what made Karate Kid so great while also updating it for a new audience.
I will say I wasn't quite as invested in S2 since the heart of the story, for me, is Johnny and Daniel, so I wasn't as into the teenage drama. But I also understand why they go there.
If anyone's curious, John Alvidsen put the entire Karate Kid rehearsal on YouTube back before he died. It's pretty funny to watch, and there's quite a few scenes with Johnny and Daniel that got cut from the final version.
I've watched a lot of interviews the past couple of days and it's really heartwarming to see how much Billy Zabka and Ralph Macchio love what they're doing, and also how much the creators of the show (Josh, Jon and Hayden) completely understand what made Karate Kid so great while also updating it for a new audience.
I will say I wasn't quite as invested in S2 since the heart of the story, for me, is Johnny and Daniel, so I wasn't as into the teenage drama. But I also understand why they go there.
If anyone's curious, John Alvidsen put the entire Karate Kid rehearsal on YouTube back before he died. It's pretty funny to watch, and there's quite a few scenes with Johnny and Daniel that got cut from the final version.
I've still got to watch this. My cohost on my Karate Kid Minute by Minute podcast keeps mentioning it.
Finished both seasons in a matter of days (started on Sunday). Really love what they're doing here, the cheesy stuff from the original movie's era is there and all the exaggerated coincidences and whatnot are there too, makes it part of the charm imo.
I only have to say that the last episode of S2 kind of disappointed me, I thought Kreese was finally gone for good, that Cobra Kai would finally enter its Chaotic Neutral phase, that Johnny would start his redemption arc and getting his shit together, that the handshake and great time he and Daniel had at the restaurant would mark a new beginning, but nope, all undone in a matter of minutes with the last episode. Can't say I'm a fan of the direction they took with it and that cliffhanger with Ali... yeah, no.
I only have to say that the last episode of S2 kind of disappointed me, I thought Kreese was finally gone for good, that Cobra Kai would finally enter its Chaotic Neutral phase, that Johnny would start his redemption arc and getting his shit together, that the handshake and great time he and Daniel had at the restaurant would mark a new beginning, but nope, all undone in a matter of minutes with the last episode. Can't say I'm a fan of the direction they took with it and that cliffhanger with Ali... yeah, no.
I had a hard time with the finale too. During the finale my sister was yelling "I don't like this!!" at the screen as everything was unfolding. And I get it, the showrunners needed to up the stakes, and they feel like it's not time yet for Johnny to truly get his shit together. I just hope it'll pay off spectacularly in S3, because how many times can Johnny hit rock bottom?
What about the cliffhanger with Ali did you not like? The idea of her coming back?
Oh, neat! I'll have to check out your podcast. 😃 It's pretty funny to watch. Ralph Macchio is such a natural. He just oozes charm, haha.
I think (hope) that's there to set-up the story about Johnny and Daniel working together to stop Kreese in season three.
That would be a nice way to play it out, they'll keep the over the top stuff so it could make for a great "Ryu and Ken vs Akuma" kind of situation lol.
Punished Johnny from episode 1 with the beard is back
She's the only sane person on the show