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CNN: This is the last week of $600 unemployment benefits
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How would one show what they made prior to unemployment? Seems like a lot more work on everyone's part. Unless they do something as dumb as go off your last income tax that was turned in.
Yep, with blanket corporate immunity thrown in to shield these businesses from any liability. Republicans are full on a death cult.
But even that would be a logistical nightmare, figuring out how much extra federal money you'd get on top of your state money (which varies from state to state) just to make sure you don't get an extra hundred or 2 a week. Republicans really are the Fucking worst
State unemployment is already paid out based on what you made prior.
Not falling far enough. He's badly behind, but still gets approval numbers in the 40s on most things. Him being roughly tied with Biden on the economy, the only issue left where he's not behind, just blows my mind.
Not badly enough. Worst case scenario for the GOP is to still have half the governors, more than half the state legislatures, lose maybe another dozen House seats, have 48-49 Senators, a generally favorable judiciary, and lose the presidency by non-historic numbers. All of which would then almost certainly rebound in 2 years. It's not enough. Just...fuck the GOP.
On topic: I really feel for everyone still relying on that $600. The fucking GOP better cave at the last minute. It made a huge difference for the few weeks I was furloughed.
after seeing the posturing from mcarthy and mcconnell today, another round of checks seems likely. kudlow and some others in the white house don't like the idea, but trump hasn't seemed to change and mnuchin is on board. theres more support for the idea than against it at this point though the details around it will probably change. the UI expansion posturing from the republicans today isn't awful either, though a cut is definitely coming.
trump pushing mcconnel to fight for payroll taxes feels like an incoming L for everyone involved, but it gives the dems more to work with along with the liability exemptions repubs want. this close to the election they'll want more ways of direct cash infusions to see any benefit possible before voting starts.
trump pushing mcconnel to fight for payroll taxes feels like an incoming L for everyone involved, but it gives the dems more to work with along with the liability exemptions repubs want. this close to the election they'll want more ways of direct cash infusions to see any benefit possible before voting starts.
Sounds like it would(should) be DOA from what I'd read about implementation. Didn't they say the tax cut would be a payroll tax cut, and the education money was tied to whether school went back to normal in person classes?
As bad as it will be for me to not even get what I was paid before, I don't want a bunch of kids to get infected either.
AndrewDean84 is rightfully getting called & cursed out by nearly everyone in this thread for posting something incredibly stupid, not just bye.
People need to learn to watch what they say.
This just happened to be the first post i saw and quoted, which is why I said why are "posts like this allowed" Except if you actually look through the posts, not nearly everyone in this thread is cursing him out, and many of those that ARE calling him out are at least doing it without being an asshole about it. You are right, people should learn to watch what they say, and "Kindly, Fuck off" is a prime example of learning to watch what you say.
But hey, if I can get away with saying something along the lines of "Kindly, Fuck off", I will be sure to remember that the next time I disagree with someone's post. It's clearly acceptable and saves me the trouble of typing an actual thought out response.
The second one will def happen. The details are just being talked about now. We will probably find out by the end of the week of something happens this week.
They will still likely control the Senate have roughly 49% of the house, they're really not that worried
That sounds too ridiculous to be believable. Who do you knoow that did that?
1) If you made more money before, you get more money from unemployment, and vice versa? Seems bad.
2) Just sending everyone a blank $600 check was hard enough, imagine customizing the amount for every person? Infrastructural nightmare.
3) How are they determining what previous income was? 2019 tax return? What if you were unemployed? What if you got a raise since then?
I've been screaming this from the rooftops to everyone I know getting it. I'm secure enough right now to have it taken out automatically. But yeah there is going to be a rude awakening for people that realize they owe thousands of dollars in taxes. And they'll have nothing.
2) Just sending everyone a blank $600 check was hard enough, imagine customizing the amount for every person? Infrastructural nightmare.
3) How are they determining what previous income was? 2019 tax return? What if you were unemployed? What if you got a raise since then?
I've been screaming this from the rooftops to everyone I know getting it. I'm secure enough right now to have it taken out automatically. But yeah there is going to be a rude awakening for people that realize they owe thousands of dollars in taxes. And they'll have nothing.
But states already have to know how much you made before because they usually pay out based on a percentage of your income with a cap right?
I don't know that this will be that much more complicated than the current method.
Supposedly this data isn't always held by all states or that was the reasoning for why this wasn't the method to begin with. Also implementation would also be an actual nightmare. Any changes to the formulas used would have to take place at an already strapped unemployment agency. Also they might have to be made manually. As an example, in SC you're not supposed to be paid your first week on unemployment and then you get paid from then on. The governor signed an executive order that exempted the wait week in March. I was laid off on 4/28 and claimed the following week, no check on my wait week. I got paid the following week and the wait week money came just over a week ago.
Gotcha. These sorts of things always seem to be so much more complicated than they seem at first glance.
I imagine the logistical issues are a feature for them too. I'm sure Florida is real upset that they did such a poor job processing requests...
In Mass at least you're able to have the site take out the required amount for State and Federal. I hope people do this cause that'll be a big bill come tax time.
Quick, somebody write another article about McConnell thinking about sending out another 1200 dollars!
Oh it definitely happened. I know of two people who did this, one a family member who worked at a factory with a take-home of $1200 every two weeks and the other a friends wife that's worked retail and decided to not take maternity leave so they would lay her off and she would make more on unemployment than the leave.
That sounds too ridiculous to be believable. Who do you knoow that did that?
Considering how many state unemployment computer systems are held together with chewing gum and bits of string, I imagine that shifting from a flat $600 to a range of income-dependent variant amounts will lead to a fresh wave of horror stories as things go wrong and errors abound (not that the horror stories ever stopped in the first place).
Im getting the fuuuuck out of the US on the 24th so this works out for us. However, it should continue, it really can make a difference for small vendors
In MN that's how they do it as well. I did the full 15% for fed and state cause I'm not willing to have a kick in the nuts come tax time next year!
And yes I do know about the 600 not taking it out. I'm well prepared for next years taxes.
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Yeah I'm so lucky that I don't live in Florida, that place is a disaster right now. Honestly I think part of the problem is the lack of staff and stagnation of the unemployment systems but also changes like that on software are never as easy as it sounds.
Yeah, I really wish I'd done this now. Missed out on money, and time to study for a better career. Mostly, I wanted to stay with my lower wage job for the sake of stability, but they fucked me over after 15 years. Got nothing to show for the last 15 years of my life.
I'd been telling my friends the same. If you have a job, keep it, don't throw it away.
But you know what? I did a 180 on that line of thought for the most part since last month. Everything that is going on right now is the complete opposite of stability. I think it's safer to believe no one is safe.
Everyone's situation is different of course, but if you can make like 3x your original wage in less than a year, I think it's a pretty clear-and-cut case of what to do. My dad's a crossing guard locally here and he's furloughed for now, he already hit his 1 year salary and then some in 4 months.
The states do, but they aren't the ones paying the extra $$$. You get two deposits, one from the state and one from the feds. The amount you get from the state is unchanged from what it would be normally, and is determined by your application. The federal deposit is the same amount for everyone right now.
Yeah, the taxes are brutal. I pay quarterly tax for my work, so i just sent it in with that for the first portion. It really sucks that the automatic tax option you could choose weekly did not take out the part needed for the $600. I feel like a lot of people are going to be gobsmacked come tax time.
Yep. Many people think because they clicked that option that it deducts for both the state and federal amounts. If you look at your bank account, you can easily tell it's not effective for the $600 because it's well, exactly $600 lol
So many people are going to fall for it. Many states don't even let you know either, not like it's really their fault but they should notify everyone by mail.
At the very least, no one is going to be alone in that clusterfuck, Hopefully they go easy on everyone, IRS-wise.
If the point is making sure people can continue their life, they should just make it 100% of your salary + healthcare instead of a flat rate
If the point is to just give people money to stay home or stimulate the conomy they should keep giving out the $600/wk (or increase it) and expand it
The flat $600k/wk doesn't work as strictly unemployment because for some it pays more than working and for others it doesn't pay enough to cover the bills. It doesn't work as a stimulus because it only gives money to unemployed people
Whenever it's brought up here people just say the point is to encourage people to avoid working but the people who actually pushed and continue to push for it argue vehemently that it doesn't do that
Yes I know economists say we are fucked without it -- I think it should be extended in a different form; even expanded
If the point is to just give people money to stay home or stimulate the conomy they should keep giving out the $600/wk (or increase it) and expand it
The flat $600k/wk doesn't work as strictly unemployment because for some it pays more than working and for others it doesn't pay enough to cover the bills. It doesn't work as a stimulus because it only gives money to unemployed people
Whenever it's brought up here people just say the point is to encourage people to avoid working but the people who actually pushed and continue to push for it argue vehemently that it doesn't do that
Yes I know economists say we are fucked without it -- I think it should be extended in a different form; even expanded
Wait what, sheesh good thing I'm shaving a chunk off into my savings but it's probably going to knock out my savings if I'm not careful... not that I'm spending everything but it's the main thing helping me out. But yeah it'll could wipe out most of what I'm adding to my savings
Damn, I thought it was going to be Week 1 with the 600 Bonuts and Week 2 with partial bonus or just the regular weekly decided amount (Ex. $207)
Well there is an entirely separate program for that. It directly reimburses small businesses for wages if they keep paying their employees to stay home
That program (PPP) is rife with problems but the $600 is not meant to replace it
I'm looking at my payout on the Unemployment site and the tax withholdings are triple what they usually are with the additional $600. This isn't the case for me unless I'm confusing something here.
The $600 is rolled into one large payment for me along with my normal unemployment that is taxed all together. I should be fine.
How does it do that. You mean it keeps them from looking for another job?