CNN: The price of wine is dropping fast

TheSkullPrince · Feb 18, 2020

Not much of a wine drinker myself, despite living in Northern California (where there a ton of wine-tasting places).

I'm an uncultured swine when it comes to wine, since when I do drink it I prefer Stella Rosso.

Asklepios · Feb 18, 2020

Hobbes said:
can someone recc. a red wine that is sweet and doesn't taste like dried grapes?

Why don't you try Sangria? It's fruity red wine and goes well with lots of simple food like sliders or any cheese.

Hesemonni · Feb 18, 2020

Not gonna complain.

TechnicPuppet · Feb 18, 2020

Dennis8K said:
Gin tastes like death.

It's all cheap shite but it's the in thing just now.

Hollywood Duo · Feb 18, 2020

Love wine, not a big fan of American wine though so this doesn't do me much good.

Famassu · Feb 18, 2020

Wine tastes like bitter piss (to me) no matter how much I try to learn to drink it or what price-range/type. It's not good as a getting-drunk drink (unless mixed with something) and it ruins foods if used as a food beverage (never quite got the "it-elevates-these-particular-dishes" scene, it just overrides all other flavors)

Dr. Mario · Feb 18, 2020

br0ken_shad0w said:
Add me to the group that gets bad headaches if I drink more than one glass. Or maybe just been drinking garbage wine but I only really had a few that I really liked and I already forgotten the names of them. It doesn't help I could never finish a bottle before it goes sour.

That's usually from the tannins. Not necessarily cheap wines, though some cheap wines add a lot of them to mask their quality, so it's definitely possible they were garbage. If you take a sip and your mouth feels all dry, it probably has a lot of tannins. You could try a lighter red wine like Pinot Noir or most Italian merlots and primitivos. If you want to try to learn how to enjoy them at least.

PersonAndStuff · Feb 18, 2020

Once again, California lifts up America.

Anthony Hopkins · Feb 18, 2020

Fat4all said:
im a big wine boy

I thought you are a big wine dog?

TwntyOneTwlv · Feb 18, 2020

Love love love wine. Give me a nice dry red all day everyday. I'll pick it over beer every time.
Also sweet wines are for people who do not like wine.

Hollywood Duo · Feb 18, 2020

Famassu said:
Wine tastes like bitter piss (to me) no matter how much I try to learn to drink it or what price-range/type. It's not good as a getting-drunk drink (unless mixed with something) and it ruins foods if used as a food beverage (never quite got the "it-elevates-these-particular-dishes" scene, it just overrides all other flavors)

Seems like you just don't like wine which is fine. However, pairing food with wine is one of the ultimate things in gastronomy. A good robust red wine with a steak *chefs kiss*

Yasuke · Feb 18, 2020

This is funny considering I've gotten really into wine over the course of the last 4 months or so. I keep a bottle of red in the crib. Cheap stuff from Walgreens, usually.

Pepito · Feb 18, 2020

California Malbec gang wya???

Xiaomi · Feb 18, 2020

I got into wine because I like cheese and cured meats and getting tipsy. Once every month or two I'll usually go through a $20-30 bottle of Shiraz and a plate of the aforementioned snacks with a movie and a friend. It's not the taste you like at first, it's that it's pleasant, goes well with snacks, and gets you a little hazy by the end of the night.

Chikor · Feb 18, 2020

TwntyOneTwlv said:
Also sweet wines are for people who do not like wine.

Sweet wines are for people who like sweet wines and I don't think you or anyone get to kick them out of the "people who like wine" club.
Also, even in the Wine Enthusiast context of "let me tell you what you actually like to drink", saying that people who like port or gewürztraminer icewine are not wine lovers is weird.

J-Skee · Feb 18, 2020

Oh hell yeah. Gonna stock up for sure.

Swiggins · Feb 18, 2020

Hobbes said:
can someone recc. a red wine that is sweet and doesn't taste like dried grapes?

Sangria, the superior wine.

AlphaCookie · Feb 18, 2020

I like wine. It gets me a better longer lasting buzz than liquor, and I can actually drink it with dinner without my meal just turning into whiskey flavor motherfucker. Not to mention the liquor tax up in Washington is something like 20% + $4 per liter in a volume tax.. Math is hard, but I do know that the $15 fifth of Revel Stoke I like winds up being around $22. Wine is just like, standard 10% sales tax, yo.

Now if I could get announcement on Mead and Sake prices dropping, that'd be some fantastic news.

Ferrio · Feb 18, 2020

Swiggins said:
Sangria, the superior wine.

Sangria isn't a wine, it's punch.

AlphaCookie said:
Now if I could get announcement on Mead and Sake prices dropping, that'd be some fantastic news.

Now this is good taste.

tiesto · Feb 18, 2020

Hobbes said:
can someone recc. a red wine that is sweet and doesn't taste like dried grapes?

Duck Walk Gatsby Red

AMAGON · Feb 18, 2020

Bourbon Barrel Aged Cabernet has been a revelation for me last year.

Parthenios · Feb 18, 2020

Wine is maybe my favorite alcohol to drink, but I get worse hangovers from it than any other alcohol. The only other one that's close is hard seltzer. I've always been mildly curious as why but always forget to Google it.

Ferrio · Feb 18, 2020

Oh and by coincidence today is "National Drink Wine Day"

National Drink Wine Day

Drink Wine Day Feb. 18

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Deleted member 48897 · Feb 18, 2020

Relative to beer I think the big problem with wine is that it can be incredibly expensive.

Not that there aren't good budget wines. Barefoot's stuff is all pretty solid (especially their whites and the rose, which the wife adores) and I'm a big fan of Santiago Station's red and white.

Dr.Phibes · Feb 18, 2020

Chikor said:
Sweet wines are for people who like sweet wines and I don't think you or anyone get to kick them out of the "people who like wine" club.
Also, even in the Wine Enthusiast context of "let me tell you what you actually like to drink", saying that people who like port or gewürztraminer icewine are not wine lovers is weird.

But there's no point to red wine if it ain't dry.

Distantmantra · Feb 18, 2020

I'm not a wine person, I'm a craft beer guy, but I appreciate it. There is really good wine being made all along the west coast. The Yakima Valley in Washington and Willamette Valley in Oregon produce great product.

muteKi said:
Relative to beer I think the big problem with wine is that it can be incredibly expensive.

Not that there aren't good budget wines. Barefoot's stuff is all pretty solid (especially their whites and the rose, which the wife adores) and I'm a big fan of Santiago Station's red and white.

Costco has some really solid affordable wine as part of their Kirkland Signature brand. My wife absolutely loves their Marlborough Ti Point Sauv Blanc at $6.99 over a lot of bottles that sell for twice as much.

Chikor · Feb 18, 2020

Dr.Phibes said:
But there's no point to red wine if it ain't dry.

Why not say "I don't like non-dry red wine" instead of this?
I think you would also need to ask yourself how many types of non sweet red wines have you tried before arriving at that conclusion, but one step at a time.

finalflame · Feb 18, 2020

Hulohot said:
I don't know anyone (that I've asked or eaten with) that drinks wine. It's mostly a parent thing.

I feel it's certainly a trend for younger people to not like wine, so this drop is unsurprising to me.

Literally everyone I know or in any of my circles drinks wine. What the hell?

Early 30s/late 20s, west coast USA.

Askherserenity · Feb 18, 2020

Problem I have with wine is that I destroy bottles and it's expensive.

How doesn't everyone drink a bottle of wine a night. It's so good.

RocknRola · Feb 18, 2020

*laughs in consistent cheap European wine prices*

Hollywood Duo · Feb 18, 2020

finalflame said:
Literally everyone I know or in any of my circles drinks wine. What the hell?

Early 30s/late 20s, west coast USA.

Yeah it's definitely not just a "parents thing" whatever the hell that is. I suspect that poster is very young. I didn't start on wine really until mid 20s because all I really cared about before that was getting drunk as cheaply as possible.

RocknRola said:
*laughs in consistent cheap European wine prices*

3-5 € for a very drinkable bottle 😭

DrewFu · Feb 18, 2020

finalflame said:
Literally everyone I know or in any of my circles drinks wine. What the hell?

Early 30s/late 20s, west coast USA.

Hollywood Duo said:
Yeah it's definitely not just a "parents thing" whatever the hell that is. I suspect that poster is very young. I didn't start on wine really until mid 20s because all I really cared about before that was getting drunk as cheaply as possible.

I'm 34 and don't really know many who drinks wine other than my folks. It's almost entirely spirits and beer that I see.

Meatfist · Feb 18, 2020

Sweet!

I like wine, but the good stuff is expensive as fuck - $30 will get you 2 handles of Costco vodka, a decent bottle of scotch or bourbon, a couple 6-packs of great beer, or... 4-5 glasses of pretty good wine

Ferrio · Feb 18, 2020

Meatfist said:
Sweet!

I like wine, but the good stuff is expensive as fuck - $30 will get you 2 handles of Costco vodka, a decent bottle of scotch or bourbon, a couple 6-packs of great beer, or... 4-5 glasses of pretty good wine

$30 can get you 2-3 bottles of good wine. Plenty more than 4-5 glasses. Not sure why everyone is saying wine is too expensive, good wine is only expensive if you want it to be.

Poppy · Feb 18, 2020

time to get myself some peanut norr

RocknRola · Feb 18, 2020

Hollywood Duo said:
3-5 € for a very drinkable bottle 😭

Try more like 1.5€-3€ for great everyday wine.

3€+ demands excellence already :P

Hollywood Duo · Feb 18, 2020

DrewFu said:
I'm 34 and don't really know many who drinks wine other than my folks. It's almost entirely spirits and beer that I see.

I find it's more a split between eating and just at a bar. I'll get a cocktail at a bar but almost always wine if I go out to dinner.

RedMercury · Feb 18, 2020

Hobbes said:
can someone recc. a red wine that is sweet and doesn't taste like dried grapes?

Chikor · Feb 18, 2020

DrewFu said:
I'm 34 and don't really know many who drinks wine other than my folks. It's almost entirely spirits and beer that I see.

Meatfist said:
I like wine, but the good stuff is expensive as fuck - $30 will get you 2 handles of Costco vodka, a decent bottle of scotch or bourbon, a couple 6-packs of great beer, or... 4-5 glasses of pretty good wine

Nothing is going to get you a better "getting drunk" bang for a buck than Vodka, especially in the US, but $30 on wine at Costco will get you 4-5 bottles, which is 20-25 glasses of wine.

Kard8p3 · Feb 18, 2020

hope this affects the local winery I buy from, their cotton candy wine is good but goddamn could i do with saving a few bucks

Askherserenity said:
Problem I have with wine is that I destroy bottles and it's expensive.

How doesn't everyone drink a bottle of wine a night. It's so good.

I tell myself, "Oh, I only drink some of the bottle tonight!"

few hours later it's all gone.

Ether_Snake · Feb 18, 2020

Hobbes said:
can someone recc. a red wine that is sweet and doesn't taste like dried grapes?

Try a porto if you really want something sweet.

Kitsunebaby · Feb 18, 2020

shnurgleton said:
Wine is good but it's not very accessible. You have to learn a lot and try a lot to develop a taste and find what you like

I mean, maybe in rural areas with only one or two liquor stores it's not very acceptable. But I live in a fairly modest city and there's wine tastings everywhere. Not to mention, most wines I buy are $12-20 a bottle, as opposed to spirits which tend to range from $25-60.

Meatfist · Feb 18, 2020

Chikor said:
Nothing is going to get you a better "getting drunk" bang for a buck than Vodka, especially in the US, but $30 on wine at Costco will get you 4-5 bottles, which is 20-25 glasses of wine.

Maybe I should branch out a bit when I'm at Costco - I usually stick to California reds but it sounds like there's lots of good stuff to be found elsewhere for cheaper

Chikor · Feb 18, 2020

Meatfist said:
Maybe I should branch out a bit when I'm at Costco - I usually stick to California reds but it sounds like there's lots of good stuff to be found elsewhere for cheaper

Obviously, taste is subjective, but I think most people should be able to find wine that they enjoy in the $5-$10 price range.
It's harder than it should be in the US since many specialty wine stores just don't carry cheap wines and in supermarkets and such, many of the cheap wines are super light bodied (this is just a market selection, it's not more expensive to make a heavy body wine) so if you're not into that, you might have to go through a few wines you don't love, though I personally can enjoy drinking wine that I don't totally adore, so I don't terribly mind that.

I would definitely give Costco's Kirkland brand wines a look, they are good value and if you find something you like there it will be pretty easy to get more of it (which is not always the case with wine).

The best value is always going to be buying directly from small wineries, but I have no idea how relevant it is in where you are.

KingM · Feb 18, 2020

What are some good wines in the under $30 range. I have enjoyed sweet wines and Rosè in the past but haven't gotten into them before. to put my region into perspective I can get to the Paso Robles wine area.of CA in a sub-2 hour drive.

Ether_Snake · Feb 18, 2020

Note that a lot of wines have a high level of lead and pesticides.

Wetwork · Feb 18, 2020

Wine will make its return as the next hipster alcohol drink once craft beer becomes too mainstream

Chikor · Feb 18, 2020

Wetwork said:
Wine will make its return as the next hipster alcohol drink once craft beer becomes too mainstream

Anecdotally, around here wine cans are kinda moving into that space. I don't think wine is terribly likely to replace craft beers in pubs because the economics of selling wines at bars is always kinda problematic.

Deleted member 18179 · Feb 18, 2020

RedMercury said:

You laugh, but

And it's pretty good.

Pizza Luigi · Feb 19, 2020

UsefulSpoon said:
This reads like someone who has never worked anywhere near the industry and just watches YouTube videos. Wine is not a luxury good, not anymore than beer is a luxury good.

Except that I own a wine bar, which means that I would love wine to be cheaper than it actually is...

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