A person I used to be friends with is super excited about working from home since her employer has remote work positions. It's a big company. Will she still be required? I'd love it if so lol
Anyone that works at a company over 100 employees, so, Yes.A person I used to be friends with is super excited about working from home since her employer has remote work positions. It's a big company. Will she still be required? I'd love it if so lol
How are unvaccinated people not an active threat to others? The virus can and does spread asymptomatically all the time, and it can be a huge threat to immunocompromised individuals. The testing portion of the mandate covers validating that unvaccinated people actually are "healthy" in the event that they absolutely refuse to get the vaccine. Seems fair, no?
Yup. This gets to the heart of the matter of inconveniencing the assholes who won't get vaccinated directly, as well as their employers.
this is the core of the argument, and why I think the rule will probably hold up to any sort of court challenge
fundamentally, "not getting covid at the job you have to go to in order to live" is a workplace safety issue, and there's literal centuries of legal cases demonstrating that the federal government has the power to set workplace safety standards
as far as I'm aware, it's on very solid legal footing
I work from home, a govt contractor.A person I used to be friends with is super excited about working from home since her employer has remote work positions. It's a big company. Will she still be required? I'd love it if so lol
A safe workplace environment IS a basic worker's right. Period. Every worker has the right to a safe working environment.
There is a global pandemic and a free vaccine to fight it thats available to everyone in the US.
With an easy way to ensure a safe workplace environment, it is 100% in line with what the Labor Department is supposed to do, and should do.
You are looking at it as personal medical treatment, and it isn't.
this is the core of the argument, and why I think the rule will probably hold up to any sort of court challenge
fundamentally, "not getting covid at the job you have to go to in order to live" is a workplace safety issue, and there's literal centuries of legal cases demonstrating that the federal government has the power to set workplace safety standards
as far as I'm aware, it's on very solid legal footing
Unfortunately, This shit is going to be in the courts forever. Don't expect this to go into effect when they say it is.
A person I used to be friends with is super excited about working from home since her employer has remote work positions. It's a big company. Will she still be required? I'd love it if so lol
Expected but I just have to facepalm at the stupid bitch of a governor I'm stuck with.
US legal system. Not sure what you mean based on what? The mandates will be challenged in court before going into effect. Especially the private sector ruling. There will be challenges stating he doesn't have the authorization to do so, even with emergency powers.
Expected but I just have to facepalm at the stupid bitch of a governor I'm stuck with.
LMAO!!!
I can assure you that there are plenty of antivaxxers on this forum, they're just wise enough (ironically) to stfu about it.I know it's going to be inconvenient but god damn it it has to be done. I'm sorry for those hesitant folks that are going to go kicking and screaming about this but if I miss another Christmas with my family because of this pandemic I'm going to really lose my god damn mind.
We wouldn't have had to take these measures like some other more responsible countries have done if people had taken it seriously to begin with.
To all the anti-vaxxers, I get it. It's your choice and you won't be forced to do anything but if you had even just done the minimum of wearing masks and quarantining and staying at home and running businesses safely then it never would have gotten this bad.
I know I'm shouting into the bubble. This isn't reaching anti-vaxxer eyes. /vent
Does this mean general employees (as in, like, Walmart, even if their specific store doesn't have 100, but the coproporation does obviously) or just businesses with 100+ people that staff the building
Prepare for mass unemployment coming. People would rather give up their livelihood than take a shot.
Just wait.
Doug Ducey, Arizona: "This will never stand up in court. This dictatorial approach is wrong, un-American and will do far more harm than good."
They have strong union protections. Thanks to Nixon, apparently, from what I'm reading? Changing the rules for them is much harder than for virtually anyone else.
Yeah, and the *mandate* doesn't apply to them because they're not quite a federal body. However, it sounds like the "Businesses with over 100 employees" OSHA regulation *does* apply to them.They have strong union protections. Thanks to Nixon, apparently, from what I'm reading? Changing the rules for them is much harder than for virtually anyone else.
I confess this is the first I've heard of OSHA -- anyone care to break it down?
At the very least, I imagine this isn't the fascist government overreach the right's currently screaming about it.
Apparently theyve never worked in a business big enough to care about OSHA rulesFrom a National Review comment:
"Many governors have quickly responded to Biden's vaccine mandate for businesses. Here are just a few brief excerpts:
Tate Reeves, Mississippi: "The President has no authority to require that Americans inject themselves because of their employment at a private business. This is still America, and we still believe in freedom from tyrants."
Brian Kemp, Georgia: "I will pursue every legal option available to the state of Georgia to stop this blatantly unlawful overreach by the Biden administration."
Kristi Noem, South Dakota: "My legal team is standing by ready to file our lawsuit the minute @joebiden files his unconstitutional rule. This gross example of federal intrusion will not stand."
Henry McMaster, South Carolina: "Rest assured, we will fight them to the gates of hell to protect the liberty and livelihood of every South Carolinian."
Doug Ducey, Arizona: "This will never stand up in court. This dictatorial approach is wrong, un-American and will do far more harm than good."
Greg Gianforte, Montana: "President Biden's vaccination mandate is unlawful and un-American. We are committed to protecting Montanans' freedoms and liberties against this gross federal overreach."
Kevin Stitt, Oklahoma: "It is not the government's role to dictate to private businesses what to do. Once again President Biden is demonstrating his complete disregard for individual freedoms and states' rights."
Those are just a few excerpts from the responses from some of the governors."
Biden Announces Plan to Require Large Companies to Mandate COVID Vaccines | National Review
The Department of Labor will develop rules requiring employers with more than 100 workers to mandate vaccines or weekly testing for coronavirus.www.nationalreview.com
The USPS is excluded from the Federal mandate because it's not an Executive Branch agency and therefore Biden has no direct authority over its workforce.