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my company is not far from that threshold at the moment and I think our garbage management would literally fire more people to stay underneath it if the choice was between that or to actually giving a fuck about employee health š
Should be 100 total because this should definitely hit retail chains etc
Actually does anyone know how fast food franchising fits into these requirements?
Businesses already can (and some have) mandated their employees get vaccinated. And yes, they'll fire people that don't comply.
This is a good thing. We're trying to stop a fucking global pandemic.
So, like, I work at AMC Theatres and we have 40-50 people on payroll at my theater, but we have, like, 40,000 employees nationally.
Does this affect us or no?
I imagine most HR departments won't want to deal with that BS weekly testing and just require vaccination
It has nothing to do with the specific building. It's the business as a whole
Why? The courts have time again give deference to government to allow mandates in terms of public health matters
midterms gonna be about vaccination and the conservatives may not be able to stop it. The narrative has enough momentum that it may be difficult for the right to wield.
It goes like this: "You're fired."
And antivaxxers can work for big companies. Just need to get vaccinated which is safe, free and easy to do.
Good moves. My company basically put these rules in place a week ago (get a shot if you want to come into the office or get a test once a week). Also get a shot or test if you travel.
Our rules don't affect you if you WFH, I wonder if these do? I looked and didn't see if WFH was affected.
Our rules don't affect you if you WFH, I wonder if these do? I looked and didn't see if WFH was affected.
total. its a legal distinction to make it "interstate commerce" so even if you have 20 at your branch if you have branches in other states and hit that 100 you're clearly engaging in interstate commerce thus OSHA can issue mandates. it can't hit small businesses because work place workplace safety there clearly doesn't affecf interstate commerce. but they can hit them for other things because they're likely buying or selling across state lines.
I can't wait for thomas' batshit concerence/dissent
I'd imagine they don't want to affect the joint-employer issue with the NLRB so I'd imagine they'd be treated separately as a separate employers
its a workplace standard so they'd have no ability to get OSHA to go after the employer so in effect they're not affected
Hm, well that may end up exempting a lot of fast food places then, but I don't know how many other chain businesses are franchised these days
I really don't know how the Supreme Court will rule. This isn't even a mandate, you don't have to get the vaccine, you can provide a test.
I do imagine we'll see them file in the 5th circuit (Texas) to get an injunction. Its funny because they hated all the liberals during trump always filing in the 9th (West Coast, AK, and HI).
Even with an injunction this emboldens employers, which I think is the larger goal. It gives them cover to put in their own policies
Good for me. Bad for me because I'm sure, as someone who works for a large employer, I'll get plenty of assholes calling to complain despite this not being my department at all.
A lot of franchisee's own multiple locations, so I'd imagine it would vary by the employer.
Literally one of the jobs of government is to regulate workplace environments to ensure safety to people and the environment. It's why we have labor laws regarding underage workers, laws regarding how businesses can dispose of their waste to prevent ecosystem damage, and minimum wage to protect workers.
This is the Labor Department enacting a rule to create safe workplaces. Literally their job and the job of government. It's completely in-line.
If you think it's stupid, you need to educate yourself on the roll of governments.
In Nova Scotia, they just confirmed yesterday that all non-enessional businesses are requiring everyone to be vaccinated.
This is great news, but the fact that there is a testing opt out is disappointing.
This will probably convince a decent amount of younger holdouts, but most of the MAGAs and anti-vaxxers will just opt for testing.
If you're going to mandate it, then go big and ACTUALLY MANDATE IT. Don't let these plague spreaders off easy with a weekly nose swab.
This will probably convince a decent amount of younger holdouts, but most of the MAGAs and anti-vaxxers will just opt for testing.
If you're going to mandate it, then go big and ACTUALLY MANDATE IT. Don't let these plague spreaders off easy with a weekly nose swab.
Organization.
Wait until testing stops being free.
Getting the nose swab is an awful experience. I can't imagine choosing to keep doing that every week.
Yes. Anyone under the umbrella of the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, etc. But they already do weekly testing as far as I know though.
Damn. I forgot that there's another option of "or get tested weekly".
I just wonder if it is kinda forcing most bigger business to step up and mandate it themselves. The work and paperwork involved in keeping records (not to mention the PTO given to people being tested or large corporations buying their own tests for weekly testing clinics and the OSHA fines when someone isn't in compliance) will be a significant cost I would think
Come on, it's mildly uncomfortable, but it's not that bad, and I've had to do it several times.
Anyway, companies will very likely only be using the rapid test with the short nose swap that isn't uncomfortable at all, so not sure if that will dissuade anyone.
