Kinda what made me lose interest too.
Ultimately this is not close to the Buzz everyone loves and it feels like a serious take on a character no one wants a serious take on.
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CNN: Pixar's 'Lightyear' fizzles at the box office
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Kinda what made me lose interest too.
Ultimately this is not close to the Buzz everyone loves and it feels like a serious take on a character no one wants a serious take on.
This. The Buzz movie looks like hot garbage.
My daughter and her friends instantly dropped their plans to see this when they found it wasn't the same character. Looking like a huge miscalculation by Disney.
Kids and adults both play a major factor in the success of a Pixar film, so it does make a bit of difference.
Cars 2 got a bit of a boost from Toy Story 3 plus it being a sequel, same with Brave, which is a film that feels like it would have done worse had it been released now. Onward and The Good Dinosaur both flopped with perfectly decent reviews (Onward wasn't even tracking that well before the Pandemic), and even Luca did far worse overseas then Soul. It's a worrying trend that if Pixar can't keep churning out "masterpieces" again and again, they're going to basically become Disney + fodder for the considerable future.
I'll probably watch this on Disney+ at some point but for me this just isn't what I want out of Pixar and it doesn't interest me at all. I prefer their Inside Out and Soul-style stuff these days.
From the very moment this film was announced it was doomed to failure, as they failed time and time again to actually explain what this is. I actually think from business standpoint it was always doomed to fail.
I'll reserve creative judgment for when I see it.
I'll reserve creative judgment for when I see it.
Man, the Pixar summer movie used to be the annual must-see animated motion picture. I didn't even know buzz light year was the Pixar summer flick for 2022. From previews I just assumed it was a Disney+ film
It's funny how they're constantly tying themselves in knots trying to explain the context behind Lightyear. Maybe that should've given them a clue.
I am flattered! We made a kind of rule where we don't want the kids watching mindless garbage on YouTube (that stuff is like crack for kids, and it can lead down bizarre rabbit holes). If the kids are going to watch something, it needs to have dialogue, plot, and hopefully some artistry. I have to say, the advent of streaming services has been amazing for curating this stuff. It also means we get to repeatedly watch true classics like 2003's "The Haunted Mansion" lol
The people I know who've seen it said it was really good, so I'm sure it's fine. I think, at least in terms of marketing, it just failed to capitalise on anything. It's a Toy Story spin off that doesn't look like Toy Story, it's a Buzz Lightyear movie with little Buzz iconography from the rest of the franchise (I'm not saying they needed to heavily reference the cartoon, but it felt more detached because they didn't), and its initial reveal promised a throwback movie but the plot and visuals just looks like kind of a generic sci fi action thing.
I do imagine when it comes to D+ we'll suddenly see a lot more interest in it. I don't think it's a 'no one will see Pixar films in theater after D+ thing' I think it's just not a film with a clear audience.
I do imagine when it comes to D+ we'll suddenly see a lot more interest in it. I don't think it's a 'no one will see Pixar films in theater after D+ thing' I think it's just not a film with a clear audience.
Which is odd because the movie opens up with a pretty straightforward explanation:
"In 1995 Andy got a toy. That toy was based on a movie. This is that movie."
I enjoyed it. We went midday Friday and there were quite a few kids and adults. I definitely thought it would have done better than it did, considering I felt there was tons of marketing done.
No doubt it did. The particular scene was a nothing burger and yet it made headlines like it was shocking gay porn.
The movie was ok. It wasn't elite Pixar.
I did hear from people they didn't like Tim Allen was gone.
It was a combo of stupid and legitimate things.
This is pretty much my anecdotal experience as well, but in US. I guess parents are still not completely fine with such scenes. The fact that it got banned in some countries for having that scene gave parents enough reason to stay home? I dunno.
Otherwise there is simply no reason for parents to not take their kids to watch movie about one of the most beloved Pixar characters of all time.
It was a bizarre move to recast him. I wonder if he just asked for too much money. I can't imagine he was never approached
Saw this on Thursday and it was just a generic, boring movie. Better than most kid films, yes, but far short of the highs of Turning Red, Soul and Luca that all deserved a theater run more than this. This is really the first Pixar film that felt like it should have gone straight to Disney Plus. The best character in the film, by far, is the comic relief robot cat. That's a telling clue about the quality of the rest of the film.
It's really funny that there's so much backlash to the same sex stuff. It's barely anything, the kiss is a blink and you miss it deal, and then the lesbian couple you see for about a minute total dies and the relationship is never brought up again. Turning Red was far more queer without being explicit about it than Lightyear could ever be.
It's really funny that there's so much backlash to the same sex stuff. It's barely anything, the kiss is a blink and you miss it deal, and then the lesbian couple you see for about a minute total dies and the relationship is never brought up again. Turning Red was far more queer without being explicit about it than Lightyear could ever be.
I'm not sure I subscribe to the "Pixar movies are Disney+" fare just yet. Needs a couple more underperformers
I can't really point to a particular reason, either for myself or others. I like space films, I enjoyed the Toy Story movies, and I like Evans and Waititi. And yet from the very first trailer, I have not at any point had any intention of seeing the film in a theatre - it has always been a "eh, I'll get to it on D+ eventually." Never had any doubts of it being decent, but there's been no push or FOMO, either.
What's this about? Did they make Buzz gay or something?
I saw this with my girlfriend day one and really tried to like it, the first half is all right but damn it falls flat in the final act.
Pixar has made a few okay films that made over a billion due to brand name and i feel like they realised they don't need to make great films anymore to make big bucks. Lightyear has huge brand name and fell flat, it might be the kick in the butt they need or they will be a Disney+ studio.
Pixar has made a few okay films that made over a billion due to brand name and i feel like they realised they don't need to make great films anymore to make big bucks. Lightyear has huge brand name and fell flat, it might be the kick in the butt they need or they will be a Disney+ studio.
I believe the premise is he's a cheap toy version of a popular movie character. So using Chris as Buzz makes sense since he's a much bigger star than Tim. But if you have to explain that to everyone, maybe it's not a good idea.
Yeah, I dunno. If the movie was called "Woody", there is an exactly 0% chance they would have dared to put anyone except Tom Hanks in that role, it would make the movie dead on arrival.
My head canon says Lightyear's failure is all because they didn't get Patrick Warburton to reprise the role. Everyone knows non-Toy Story Buzz is Warburton's Star Command series.
I really think this is more in lightyear rather than Disney+ personally, else this excuse will be used any time a Disney film dies poorly but ignoring the ones that don't?
Exactly. A smarter thing to do would have been to have a prologue in toy story 4 with Andy watching the film. It didn't even need to show it. Just explain this movie he is watching makes him ask his mum for the toy
Yep, but it makes sense for the movie. It's like when they make video game versions of Toy Story. You get knockoff voice actors playing the leads. The premise for Buzz is cool, but the amount of explaining they needed to do seems to have really hurt them. Should have gone straight to D+ like their other cartoons.
This is the fifth Pixar movie in the last two years and change. They're definitely not Events anymore.
This right here. I don't care about the story the toy is based on. The toy is much more entertaining. Plus, Tim Allen is Buzz. No one else, thanks.
Is Tim Allen still a huge right leaning dick?
His best friend is a lesbian who you see with her wife for less than a minute.
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Conceptually, this movie inspires little interest from me even as a fan of the last three pixar offerings, the trailers failed to sell me and just has me thinking how flat the comedy aspects fell from their clips.
While I like they've tried to make a different type of film here, it's just that the thematic backdrop of "the backstory behind the toy" in what at a surface level at least, looks like a fairly boilerplate sci-fi outing, is just ehhhhhh.
I'm sure when I inevitably see it on Disney plus, I'll be surprised at how fundamentally solid it is, but it ain't gonna put my butt in a cinema seat that's for sure.
While I like they've tried to make a different type of film here, it's just that the thematic backdrop of "the backstory behind the toy" in what at a surface level at least, looks like a fairly boilerplate sci-fi outing, is just ehhhhhh.
I'm sure when I inevitably see it on Disney plus, I'll be surprised at how fundamentally solid it is, but it ain't gonna put my butt in a cinema seat that's for sure.
I hope this means future Pixar movies will be Disney Plus day one again.
Did you not watch the Toy Story movies? Buzz was super hot and bothered over Jessie lol
Pretty much a perfect storm of something nobody asked for, audience confusion, and stiff BO competition.
People care about Buzz in the context of Toy Story, not whatever movie/show his toy was based upon.
People care about Buzz in the context of Toy Story, not whatever movie/show his toy was based upon.
They addressed this as having to do with the portrayal they wanted- contrary to what some people posting here think it doesn't at all seem to be related to Allen's political leanings, he's still very much utilized by Disney, they just wanted to go a different route because of the characterization of this Buzz being different.
Pixar's 'Lightyear' fizzles at the box office | CNN Business
"Lightyear" wasn't able to get enough buzz at the box office this weekend.www.cnn.com
Seems like Pixar films are now seen as Disney+ releases after Luca and Turning Red came there day one. Reviews for Lightyear did not help either, but I think we see the audience changing in what they are willing to see in theaters with Disney+
So is this compared to mcu and Star Wars ? Because i don't remember Pixar being like blockbuster money
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As many others have said: I like Buzz from Toy Story, I have no interest in a more serious version of the character.
And I didn't even know that the movie would be released now, I thought it was something for Christmas.
And I didn't even know that the movie would be released now, I thought it was something for Christmas.
Well, if it's not fatigue, maybe it's the fact that it dropped the whole "toys are really alive, but pretend to be toys" idea and went all-in on a fictional sci-fi story where the toys are the ones living their own lives and storylines. The previous movies were about toys trying to keep their kid owners interested in them before they got too old to care about toys anymore
Maybe people prefer that original toys coming to life idea more?
I haven't seen this movie, but I'm assuming there's no "real life" kids playing with all the Lightyear toys creating the story. Might be a turnoff.
Maybe people prefer that original toys coming to life idea more?
I haven't seen this movie, but I'm assuming there's no "real life" kids playing with all the Lightyear toys creating the story. Might be a turnoff.