Could involve Powell, Ellis, or Rudy IMO. Most likely Powell.
They seized 50+ devices
This is the actual Kraken, it appears.
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CNN: Justice Department investigating potential crime related to funneling money to the White House in exchange for a presidential pardon
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Could involve Powell, Ellis, or Rudy IMO. Most likely Powell.
They seized 50+ devices
This is the actual Kraken, it appears.
Not exactly true. If Trump engaged in a quid pro quo scheme that involved him using his pardon power, he could be tried for bribery, even though his original pardon would still hold up and couldn't be challenged.
Probably, other than if he tried to pardon himself. There is not currently a channel through which a presidential pardon can be challenged. The mechanism just doesn't exist. And technically there's nothing legally standing in the way of a self pardon either; it's just that I don't think people would let him get away with it.
(Note that I'm just a rando who is repeating things he's heard here and there. I am not an expert on any of this)
I vaguely remember Giuliani at least being somewhat respectable in the 90s. Did that whole "America's Mayor" nonsense go to his head?
Yes, it covers any crime committed during a specific period of time.
Damn that is HEAVILY redacted, but yeah, this is seems consistent with most documents regarding Flynn
Even more appropriate:
Stop your fooling around,
time you straighten right out,
better think of your future,
else you'll wind up in jail.
Holy shit i didn't think it could be Rudy but holding out hope. It's probably just Flynn though.
The IC must hate Flynn, probably just waiting to screw him again, I hope the same for Stone.
I'm still pissed about the Stone case. It's crazy that all the prosecutors on it quit and then we forgot about it because the pandemic hit.
They could find a mountain of evidence now, impeach him again in the House tomorrow, and McConnell and Senate republicans wouldn't do squat.
Dumb question but...trying to bribe and then getting a pardon is a crime right?
Like the pardon wouldn't cover the bribing would it?
Like the pardon wouldn't cover the bribing would it?
Respectable? Dude was fucking his vision behind his wife's back and it was a huge scandal. Before 9/11
It's not a dumb question at all, and yes it is a crime. Gathering solid evidence might be tricky though
Pardons can cover any crimes that may have been committed. So depends on if the bribe is the quid or the quo.
Trump can accept the bribe, since he can only be impeached. Since the bribe is already done, Trump can pardon the briber too. Win-win
I don't see how it would be tricky
when you get use to getting away with everything you tend to...badly hide evidence
Heck, I wouldn't be surprised when Trump tweet tomorrow about how he was going to do the pardon
Just saw Andrew Weisman (of Mueller team fame) on MSNBC, saying it would be pay for play scheme and is an exception. I don't know, I'm no lawyer and this is all new territory
It was someone who already was charged with a crime, so it ain't Rudy I'm afraid:
Source (you'll need to scroll down a bit)
Source (you'll need to scroll down a bit)
Manafort, it's gotta be Manafort right? I mean the guy was already caught wheeling and dealing from his cell ffs, yeah?
It would be funny if the "i wish her well" months ago was code for Trump accepting the cash/alright with the offer.
Grammar-police seem to think the circled possessive apostrophes would indicate the last name ends in an S 🤷‍♂️
(This is on page 18 of the redacted piece, if checking it)
(This is on page 18 of the redacted piece, if checking it)
