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CNN : Bella Thorne becomes first to earn $1 million in a day on OnlyFans
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I consider myself to know quite a bit about film and I had to go to IMDB. I had heard her name but thought she was just a socialite... LOL
Already rich person makes bank on platform filled with people doing things they otherwise wouldn't be comfortable doing in order to stay off the streets is gross as fuck.
Get that bag though I guess.
(I'm pro sex work btw but let's not pretend like it's user base wouldn't absolutely crater if people had more socioeconomic options).
Get that bag though I guess.
(I'm pro sex work btw but let's not pretend like it's user base wouldn't absolutely crater if people had more socioeconomic options).
Do you also have no idea what Google is and how it works? ;)
:D
This is mostly bad for sex workers.
Also, side note, but I'm curious as to how both she and Zendaya became stars off of "Shake It Up" when that show was complete dogshit that had zero cultural staying power or relevance. I feel ridiculous for even having been in the same room when my sister was watching it during its runtime.
Also, side note, but I'm curious as to how both she and Zendaya became stars off of "Shake It Up" when that show was complete dogshit that had zero cultural staying power or relevance. I feel ridiculous for even having been in the same room when my sister was watching it during its runtime.
Hope it goes well for her, I personally already spend over half my salary on onlyfans and wont betray my current investments, its been a couple of years now, surely one out of my fifty subscriptions will send me her number soon right?
I think because while the show was bad - the two main actors were well liked enough to become mildly successful eg appearances in smaller movies/make music
Then one of them gets a few bIg roles and becomes very famous
Same thing pretty much happended with Ariana Grande and Victorious -> Sam and Cat -> Yours Truly -> Stardom lol
The argument is that it while it takes money from the pot, more eyes/less stigma grows the pot.
Without more research it's difficult to say if it's a net benefit to everyday users or not.
I'm not 100% convinced that this particular event will have any long term negative impact on other users. I can't imagine many people forgoing their daily dose of the parasocial to pay for some sterile maxim style glamour shots of a B list celeb.
I still think rich people using modes of generating income most frequently used by poor people is gross though.
I remember browsing that one cam website and I think place 3 was a girl who only had her legs naked and she didn't even properly show them.
Half the chat was complaining about the lack of nudity.
You can only join the chat when you pay for it. The art of the tease.
I could see an argument for why this is the case but I'm still not convinced. She's not directly competing with them? It would be like if a film Kickstarter came in in 2013 and grabbed three million bucks...did that negatively or positively impact Kickstarter in other categories?
Of course, Only Fans could pull a Patreon and eventually shadowban sex workers after getting that family friendly money, but I don't know how likely something like that actually is.
Guess it kind of helps she doesnt seem to be in many "mainstream" movies. They look like VOD/streaming stuff.
Kind of surprised I've seen Blended many times, and still had no idea who she was 😅
I guess it's like if they started showing
The Avengers at your local independent film festival.
Let's also say that Marvel builds their own screen etc. so there is no physical resources being taken away from the other screenings.
At the end of the festival it turns out that The Avengers made more money than the rest of the films combined.
You could jump the gun and say that it's presence had a negative affect on the other films but this isn't inherently true.
The audience may be so different that people who went to see The Avengers were never going to see an independent film anyway.
Further to this, it's possibly more likely that people who came for The Avengers took advantage of being at an independent film festival and saw an indie pic or 2, than people who came to see an indie film decided to watch The Avengers instead.
So while it may dwarf the takings of everything around it, its not a forgone conclusion that the other films didn't benefit from its presence.
It'd be like getting mad at people for paying for netflix when free TV is available over the air. Well netflix has the specific thing they want.
The question is should celebrities be taking up space on a platform where the alternative is often a bad, very unsafe living?
Onlyfans is owned by the same owner of Myfreecams..Leo Radvinsky. He bought OF in October of 2018 I believe. He gets to double dip since many models from MFC have an Onlyfans page so het gets another cut though not as much as the 50 percent cut on MFC. So there will never be any shadowbaning on there lol.
That's cool for her, but I do think it sucks up oxygen from people using it to try and make a living as much as it could bring light and attention. Hopefully it brings more paying customers to support regular folks using it to get income.
Only fans is depressing though as you can see how little people want to pay for porn. Obviously stealing porn is huge and well accepted piracy, you can even see it regularly places like here where people proudly scoff at paying for porn when you can "get it for free" aka pirate it. If you follow any sex workers or cam girls you can regularly see them discount subscriptions for like under 5 bucks a month, which is great, a sale everybody loves a sale. But you can see how hard they have to scrape just to get people to buy into it. And a lot of them have many pics and videos and such all month. It's such an odd thing for a product or service or work to have such HUGE demand but people take it as a point of pride to not pay for it and proudly steal it. Just bonkers.
Only fans is depressing though as you can see how little people want to pay for porn. Obviously stealing porn is huge and well accepted piracy, you can even see it regularly places like here where people proudly scoff at paying for porn when you can "get it for free" aka pirate it. If you follow any sex workers or cam girls you can regularly see them discount subscriptions for like under 5 bucks a month, which is great, a sale everybody loves a sale. But you can see how hard they have to scrape just to get people to buy into it. And a lot of them have many pics and videos and such all month. It's such an odd thing for a product or service or work to have such HUGE demand but people take it as a point of pride to not pay for it and proudly steal it. Just bonkers.
I saw a sex worker post on Twitter that the two biggest issues she had with Bella doing this was one, she comes from a place of privilege already and can come in and do this for research Isn't really researching because she didn't get the experience most sex workers have on the site of actually working hard to build their status.
The second biggest issue she had was that she was concerned that seeing celebrities in the site would cause more to come and that would become the biggest income stream for the site and slowly they might get pushed out off the platform just like, in her words, Patreon did (not sure myself but she said it was her experiences with Patreon). I can see her trepidation if that were to happen. If marketed right, the site could go "legitimate" and do away with the people that built it up. Specially with a name like onlyfans as it doesn't by itself convey any sexual aspect.
The second biggest issue she had was that she was concerned that seeing celebrities in the site would cause more to come and that would become the biggest income stream for the site and slowly they might get pushed out off the platform just like, in her words, Patreon did (not sure myself but she said it was her experiences with Patreon). I can see her trepidation if that were to happen. If marketed right, the site could go "legitimate" and do away with the people that built it up. Specially with a name like onlyfans as it doesn't by itself convey any sexual aspect.
I thought OnlyFans is for hardcore porn stuff?
So she is doing what, softcore?
How many people are actually pirating porn in 2020? There are many sites that have more porn than any one person could watch in a year all available to stream for free 24 hours a day. Bing's number one use seems to be to index the near limitless amount of porn available on those websites. As for stealing, what percentage of people even bother to download porn any more? It seems rather pointless given how freely available it is to stream. When people say "get it for free" this is what they mean. Trying to paint this as pirating or stealing is disingenuous to say the least. You seem to be making an argument from a bygone era.
You can post anything there. There was a tweet recently goin viral, where a dude gets mad because a girl he is thirsty for, only posts her cooking stuff with zero nudity
It's literally the virtual girlfriend craze we've heard about before but with actual women. That's the long and short of it. Guys/gals subbing to onlyfans feel a personal connection to the person showing them their talents.
You honestly think the majority of videos on someplace like pornhub aren't pirated and uploaded to watch "for free"? Show me any streaming site that is free and its a guarantee the backbone of it is stolen content that the site just looks the otherway and relies on copyright disputes to take them down, but only then.
What websites are you streaming that aren't relying on pirated content?
Edit: Hell on a number of the porn streaming websites you can watch pirated hollywood movies. They don't give a shit what is uploaded. Mind you not just pirating content form porn studios, but regular cammers and sex workers with far less influence and power to police their stolen content
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...dtube-pornhub-piracy-alessa-savage-ukcutegirl Streaming websties are riddled with this stuff.
Just because someone else has done it for you, stolen it, uploaded it and made it easy and convenient to watch, doesn't mean you aren't stealing it yourself and gleefully participating in piracy. Ignorance is no excuse.
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I never argued that the content is legit on those sites. I'm saying that implying that the people that use them are pirates or theives is disingenuous. Are people that don't double check the rights holders of videos they watch on youtube also pirates and theives? Much like the rest of the internet providing "free" content it's assumed that the platform holder is responsible for vetting content which is then ad supported. Really "why would you pay for it when it's free?" applies to so much of the content on the internet, including this very forum, that I'm not sure why you are singling out porn. Hell, people not using a free email address is apparently enough of a hurdle that Resetera uses it to screen out new members.
The same reason people support someone on Patreon? They enjoy their content?
If I frequent a ROM website and assume it's all legit and the website is responsible for making sure but not me, am I not pirating video games?
I'm singling out porn because in particular people view it as cheap free content that isn't worth paying for. It's obvious streaming websites are stealing videos, ripping them off websites and uploading so people don't have to pay sex workers for their work. Stealing.
It's a joke, it's piracy. It's bullshit to write it off as "oh this is pornhubs problem not mine. Sorry sex worker I'm going to watch your work for free, how about you go and struggle with them to take it down. Good luck making a living hahah gonna jerk off to you now"
Bella Thorne had a crazy reputation in the advertising/entertainment community for ages. (Like a ton of eventual Disney TV kids- man the stories about Victorious are insane)...
As a kid, she often would need to be booked at separate call times than other kid models because she would bully other kids and shame them.
I remember hearing that she had a massively fucked up family life (it later came out she was sexually abused as a child). It is not a surprise, as I know a couple of people in the industry who were propositioned by her when she was only like 11-14 (she asked if she could visit them in their hotel rooms on photoshoots).
It's good to hear she's (maybe) doing well and getting help she needed...but man...what a fucked up childhood.
As a kid, she often would need to be booked at separate call times than other kid models because she would bully other kids and shame them.
I remember hearing that she had a massively fucked up family life (it later came out she was sexually abused as a child). It is not a surprise, as I know a couple of people in the industry who were propositioned by her when she was only like 11-14 (she asked if she could visit them in their hotel rooms on photoshoots).
It's good to hear she's (maybe) doing well and getting help she needed...but man...what a fucked up childhood.
