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GK86

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www.cnbc.com

How the eviction crisis across the U.S. will look

The impending eviction crisis will hurt some states more than others. African-American and Hispanic tenants are especially at risk of losing their homes.

An unprecedented eviction crisis will soon hit the U.S.

On Friday, the federal moratorium on evictions in properties with federally backed mortgages and for tenants who receive government-assisted housing expired. The Urban Institute estimated that provision covered nearly 30% of the country's rental units.

And most of the statewide eviction moratoriums are winding down.

The proceedings have resumed in more than 30 states.The moratorium in Hawaii and Illinois end this week, and in August, evictions will pick up in New York and Nevada.

By one estimate, some 40 million Americans could be evicted during the public health crisis.

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In 2016, there were 2.3 million evictions, Pollock said. "There could be that many evictions in August," he said.

Massive unemployment has left more than 40% of renter households at risk of eviction, according to a new analysis by global advisory firm Stout Risius Ross.

People of color are especially vulnerable. While almost half of White tenants say they're highly confident they can continue to pay their rent, just 26% of African-American tenants could say the same.

Around half of Hispanic tenants said they have little to no confidence they'll be able to stay in their homes.
 

Veliladon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Remember that landlords do background checks. These renters, if evicted, won't be able to rent again from most people. We're going to have a nation of blacklisted renters and empty dwellings. It's going to wreak havoc on the market. Landlords that don't want to rent to people with evictions and can't find someone who isn't blacklisted to rent to.

The landlords are basically eating their own tails throwing these people out.
 

Nola

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Oct 29, 2017
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Remember that landlords do background checks. These renters, if evicted, won't be able to rent again from most people. We're going to have a nation of blacklisted renters and empty dwellings. It's going to wreak havoc on the market. Landlords that don't want to rent to people with evictions and can't find someone who isn't blacklisted to rent to.

The landlords are basically eating their own tails throwing these people out.
And oftentimes landlords will sell off your debt to collections agencies to recoup some money and that debt can end up on your permanent credit and make it much, much harder to get a home loan.

So Republicans are literally helping create a permanent underclass during a fucking pandemic.

...And as the party of big business and capitalists, I dont even know what this position is supposed to achieve? I guess squeeze smaller landlords so large multinational real estate companies can buy up property on the cheap? And i guess we never really did anything about the systemic risk of our biggest banks so they don't really have anything to fear on defaults, since they'll just have to bail them out then blame Biden. Suddenly it does make some sense.
 

Jarmel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Am I reading this right? 50+%? How are they calculating this? This seems insane.
 

PhoenixDawn

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Oct 27, 2017
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Am I reading this right? 50+%? How are they calculating this? This seems insane.
It is insane. I've definitely seen many reports even before this crisis how 50+% of all Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. So now that they've lost their jobs and the government is pulling out all support we're about to see the harsh consequences of that reality in full light unless a full extension on these benefits happens. Also at this rate I'm sure landlords are being slaughtered by the crisis as well, so aid is probably necessary for the small, personal landlords (fuck the huge conglomerate renting companies, although I'm sure they'll be the ones cashing in big on this disaster when it happens).
 

Nude_Tayne

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What a miserable fucking failure of our government to avert a monumental crisis for millions of people. Jesus fuck the Republicans are straight up villainous.
 

Freezasaurus

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Oct 25, 2017
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What numbers am I looking at in that tweet? Are those the percentages that are rentals in each state?

I'm so thankful my house is paid off. I've been thinking about moving, but I can easily get twice as much for this house as it would cost me to buy a new one where I'm thinking of moving.
 

OptiveLink

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm straight-up worried about November, since that's when our lease is supposed to be renewed. I live with 7 peeps and we're already kinda struggling with the rent hikes that have been happening here. If they try to raise the rent more, things are gonna get dicey. (Thankfully I have some savings but I definitely didn't want to spend it so soon)
 

PanickyFool

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I am a vulture with cash parked and waiting for a few foreclosures.
 

Birdie

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm lucky that I can pay my rent but Jesus, I feel like if everyone else is getting evicted my rent is gonna jump up.

It already did by like 80$.
 

Zok310

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Oct 25, 2017
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Land of the fr...... homeless.
Republicans should be proud, the virus fallout will allow them to achieve what they always wanted to achieve, complete destruction of the middle class.
 

fragamemnon

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Nov 30, 2017
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In the context of a public health crisis and pandemic, you do need to give special affordance to renters so they don't feel stressed to go to work if they are sick. Then they spread their illness to other workers, who in turn bring it home to the people living with them and can't reasonably self-isolate.

I do think that landlords provide an essential service in taking on risk and maintenance to provide housing and the market normally works fine. My issue is that in the context of a pandemic you do have to think a bit different so you don't indrectly encourage behaviors that make the public health situation worse.
 

VariantX

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fully expect the rich to make a killing yet again of people's suffering which is why nothing is going to stop the train from going of the tracks with the current make up of govt.
 

Xyer

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Aug 26, 2018
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But every Era thread for the stimulus checks has people using it on PS5 preorders....

Drives me insane.
 

Saganator

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Oct 26, 2017
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So is this gonna tank home prices too? The people that don't foreclose could find themselves underwater right?
 

Netherscourge

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Oct 25, 2017
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How are landlords going to pay for their property taxes and fees if they have no tenants paying rent?

How are mortgage companies going to make money if they foreclose and wind up paying upkeep on an empty house?

It's not like people are lining up to buy homes and rent apartments right now.

Even with record low interest rates, nobody wants to risk down payments or sign leases they might have to bail out on right now.
 
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PanickyFool

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Oct 25, 2017
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So is this gonna tank home prices too? The people that don't foreclose could find themselves underwater right?
Depends on the hood. If you own in a child friendly suburb around schools, unlikely.

If you bought in a city for the amenities... Probably.

If you bought in a blue collar hood with high portion of renters... Probably.

How are landlords going to pay for their property taxes and fees if they have no tenants paying rent?

How are mortgage companies going to make money if they foreclose and wind up paying upkeep on an empty house?

It's not like people are lining up to buy homes and rent apartments right now.

If landlords and banks were a colluding guild you are correct. However in a individual decision that thought is different.
 

PanickyFool

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Yeah, we get your tired schtick...
I was homeless with my son at 17. Hate the game, but if I don't do it the next person will.

And frankly speaking I don't find buying distressed homes as immoral. Not my fault this country is filled with NIMBYs making homes a investment asset rather than a expense.
 

Curler

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's not like people are lining up to buy homes and rent apartments right now.

Have you seen the Bay Area? I was surprised, but people with money always find a way... Sounds like the shift, despite many people not affording housing, is people with money don't want to live in cities anymore and are looking for single-family homes in the surrounding area. Title for this is a little misleading, but yeah this is just mostly people just moving into single-families, since they seem to be selling very quickly here, still.

www.mercurynews.com

Bay Area home sales plummet during coronavirus, but prices rise

Bay Area home sales plummeted in May, falling by more than one-third in most counties and by nearly half in San Francisco as COVID-19 fears chilled sellers and buyers.
 

Netherscourge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Have you seen the Bay Area? I was surprised, but people with money always find a way... Sounds like the shift, despite many people not affording housing, is people with money don't want to live in cities anymore and are looking for single-family homes in the surrounding area. Title for this is a little misleading, but yeah this is just mostly people just moving into single-families, since they seem to be selling very quickly here, still.

www.mercurynews.com

Bay Area home sales plummet during coronavirus, but prices rise

Bay Area home sales plummeted in May, falling by more than one-third in most counties and by nearly half in San Francisco as COVID-19 fears chilled sellers and buyers.

I'm on the East Coast. Here everyone fears property tax hikes running people out of their homes more than losing their jobs, even temporarily.

The combination of the two things is pretty horrifying. Especially when schools are constantly hiking up taxes and make up the largest portion of them, while now asking people to stay home with their kids for remote learning.

It's a very unbalanced equation to say the least.
 

Curler

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm on the East Coast. Here everyone fears property tax hikes running people out of their homes more than losing their jobs, even temporarily.

The combination of the two things is pretty horrifying. Especially when schools are constantly hiking up taxes and make up the largest portion of them, while now asking people to stay home with their kids for remote learning.

It's a very unbalanced equation to say the least.

No kidding. I just got a property tax hike this month ("whoopsie! We undervalued your place!!") that I need to pay and it SUCKS. These little financially 'surprises' always show up at the worst time :/
 

GYODX

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Oct 27, 2017
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But every Era thread for the stimulus checks has people using it on PS5 preorders....

Drives me insane.
I mean, it's a stimulus check. That's what they're supposed to be using it for.

I don't begrudge anyone for how they use the money. Personally, my wife and I sent our $2400 to our folks in Puerto Rico.
 

smurfx

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Oct 25, 2017
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well i'm hoping this uncertainty will stop my landlord from raising the rent for this year or next.
 

RiOrius

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Oct 27, 2017
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But every Era thread for the stimulus checks has people using it on PS5 preorders....

Drives me insane.
A one-time $1200 payment is very bad for things like rent, and very good for things like PS5's. Like, that'll cover one month of rent for me, or a PS5 and, like, ten games.

Money scales weirdly. $1200 is a lot of money when you can spend it on toys, and very little when you need to spend it on housing. If it were an ongoing monthly payment it could help keep people in need afloat, but as is it's basically designed so that comfortable people can go buy things they want but don't need.
 

Parch

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Nov 6, 2017
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So is this gonna tank home prices too? The people that don't foreclose could find themselves underwater right?
Depends on the area. There are places with very low inventory and high demand for real estate. In places like Vancouver, landlords who want to get out of the rental game and sell are getting multiple offers.