[CNBC] Apple issues new rules for App Store that will impact streaming game services from Google and Microsoft

[RoKKeR]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/11/app...ll-affect-google-stadia-microsoft-xcloud.html

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Apple says that game streaming services, such as Google Stadia and Microsoft xCloud, are explicitly permitted. But there are conditions: Games offered in the service need to be downloaded directly from the App Store, not from an all-in-one app. App makers are permitted to release a so-called "catalog app" that links to other games in the service, but each game will need to be an individual app.

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More on specific requirements for separate game downloads.

Apple's rules mean that if a streaming game service has 100 games, then each of those games will need an individual App Store listing as well as a developer relationship with Apple. All the games and the stores need to offer in-app purchase using Apple's payment processing system, under which Apple usually takes 30% of revenue.

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[Finaj]

YAY.

 

[PopsMaellard]

Awesome! Would love to check out xCloud on my iPad Pro.

Edit: how does the "games downloaded must be downloaded through the App Store" affect this? Do Stadia or xCloud even offer downloads, or is this saying anything you stream through Stadia/xCloud has to actually just be running natively on iOS?

 

[Darkmaigle]

oh wow that is HUGE

 

[Rocketz]

So how is this going to work

Games offered in the service need to be downloaded directly from the App Store

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[wwm0nkey]

Yeah no way in hell is MS gonna do that still, if the service has 200 apps then that is 200 separate listings!

 

[drknickel]

Yessssss

 

[Rodrigues solitaire]

NICE

 

[platocplx]

hmm interesting thats pretty good but how does that work with how the games launch, is it that the game is withing their catalog and connects to the main app?

 

[Mad_Rhetoric]

Holy shit yes! So I can use xCloud on my iPhone now?

 

[madridi-gh]

So how is this going to work

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Apple being Apple

 

[Panic Freak]

Hell yeah. Time to upgrade GP Ultimate

 

[Berordn]

that is... bizarre

so you can't just pick a game from xcloud and play, you'd have to download another app from the launcher that itself is just launching a streaming session? you'd end up with an xcloud app and a halo app?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

awww.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Yall, read the article first with the new rules PLEASE

 

[PhantomArtifice]

Why the extravagance? This is ridiculous to have to individually list each game.

 

[gofreak]

An app per game adds so much friction... why... it's like asking Netflix to have an app per show.

 

[Hybrid Rainbow]

Doesn't that mean that MS has to be submit every game piece by piece for Apple to approve?

 

[Kill3r7]

Yes!

 

[kami_sama]

I thought at first it was great.
But it remains to be seen how they're going to implement the app-per-game thing. Maybe a simple "key"?

 

[bluexy]

"Games offered in the service need to be downloaded directly from the App Store."

That's not how cloud gaming works.

 

[MitchUK]

You want to read the article.

 

[0ptimusPayne]

.

 

[Skyebaron]

so youll have a shortcut for every game? weird

 

[Deleted member 10737]

WOW! this is huge!

edit: nevermind, they're doing it in a really weird way :/

 

[Uzupedro]

This doesn't look much change lol
Or am I reading it wrong?

 

[RockmanBN]

So how is this going to work

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Apple being Apple

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

Weird workaround, but I guess if it works, it works. I guess Microsoft is going to be a prolific developer on iOS now if they have to do it this way.

 

[Polynaut]

The thread title made me so excited! And then I saw the caveat... I don't know that MS or Google will go for that...

 

[Jeffram]

Nice.

I will never want to play AAA games on a phone screen over streaming through.

 

[lynux3]

Downloaded, but these these are streaming services.

 

[Nightengale]

Each game needs to be its own app and submitted for iOS storefront is still the fine print.

 

[KodiakGTS]

That still doesn't really make sense. So they need to make some XCloud Wrapper app for each individual game? Very arbitrary.

 

[Maxime]

but each game will need to be an individual app.

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What does it mean? Games have be purchasable on their store or must be launched as an individual app (but still using xCloud)?

 

[Fantastical]

Lol an app per game

 

[Apathy]

Wait this is confusing, these games aren't available in the app store

 

[Rodrigues solitaire]

LOOOOOOOOL

Imagine fucking Netflix having to have an app for each individual movie and show

Get fucked Apple

 

[Kenzodielocke]

 

[Optmst]

So how is this going to work

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Basically, give us that 30%

 

[chubigans]

This sounds terrible. No way will MS or Google go forward with this.

 

[Guymelef]

"xCloud, Google Stadia permitted"
Just like before, but under Apple rules, like now... Apple new rules still aren't compatible with how Stadia and xCloud works.

 

[LilScooby77]

My heart dun lept out mah chest!

Edit: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you apple.

 

[Pocky4Th3Win]

I don't get how this rule works for streaming apps. The games are streaming so they aren't downloaded. Are they asking for each game in xcloud to create a link to the service as an app individually?

 

[.exe]

That seems like a pretty big but.

 

[Dyle]

Yeah that's not going to work. What company wants to maintain dozens of listings on the app store and make shortcut apps for each one?

 

[Vilifier]

This sounds like an awful user experience. I hope this isn't the final decision.

 

[Dimple]

Reads the actual conditions for iOS Xcloud:

 

[Toumari]

You all need to actually read the article before jumping to conclusions.

Stadia and xCloud aren't allowed on iOS without huge changes into how they work.

 

[MitchUK]

"All the games and the stores need to offer in-app purchase using Apple's payment processing system, under which Apple usually takes 30% of revenue."

 

[TaKeRx]

Apple is still being Apple. It will never be as seamless as Android, which is why I switched.