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Chris Redfield was right! Tesla Model 3 manual recommends punching open a stuck door
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Wait, you can't remotely turn on a gas engine car in Europe? What, why??
Had that feature on my and my wife's last few cars.
Basically Hyundai is the only one, IMO. Ioniq 5, EV6, and GV60 are very good vehicles for their MSRP. You just can't buy them at said MSRP without waiting for a year in US, at least on East Coast.
Yeah, I really like the Hyundai line-up. Design and prices are on point. They're not as sporty as a Tesla but if someone doesn't care about that and actually gets their hand on one for a reasonable price, then they'll probably be very happy with their decision.
Bullshit. The cheapest Model 3 is around 40k €, me and my SO take a loan to buy it and both of us have regular ass jobs. Teslas are basic, super common cars and not a big deal at all.
GV60 Performance is actually kind of nuts actually :). But yeah, I think in US Hyundai group provides good alternatives. In Europe and Asia, I am sure there are a lot more other options.
Oh, and VW ID.4 is not a bad vehicle either. It's not "exciting" but its pretty good option as far as usability and price goes.
Of course now, need to understand the new credits and where they will apply. Likely cheapest Tesla Model 3 and general Model Y will get them, Hyundai will not (for now at least) and VW ID4 will as soon as the new plant goes forward.
I feel like this may not be the smartest solution ever for a rare issue and definitely a funny description in the manual, but after all is said and done it feels okay. It's not dangerous or extremely stupid. I.e. I don't know why there is much of a discussion about this specific points. Model 3s rear doors not being able to be opened from inside without power on the hand... I really don't know why that is allowed in the first place. It's screaming for some kind of weird accident to happen where a person is trapped in the rear and burns to death or sth. horrific like that.
Off topic but anyone who cares about the environment shouldn't be buying new cars full stop (and NO ONE NEEDS a new one)
I will say that my 10k dollar Prius never has door handle problems lmao
I will say that my 10k dollar Prius never has door handle problems lmao
Lol "which is what you owe dozens of people" god imagine holding a consumer good so close to your heart that you are so impassioned about this. Why not be impassioned about something real like climate change? And if you don't care about climate then is his post really that far off base? Lol
lol those engineers or constant other individuals are being paid. Engineers likely in the top 1 percent of earners in the country. Humans work on everything you criticize, does that mean you shouldn't voice a negative opinion on anything? Have you ever complained about a server who makes far less than a Tesla engineer? Just because I couldn't have made Balan Wonderland (cus I'm in medicine not fucking software lol) doesn't mean I can't critique it despite many well paid humans working on it
Also there's a lot better you can do for clean transportation than driving the demand for brand new electric vehicles to be produced with massive batteries
This is a far bigger indicator that you have nothing in your brain concerning this than if you just didn't respond in the first place. Learn to separate corporations from who you are
Picked up a MYP as my first EV 2 years ago. Coming from consumer Motorsport brands like BMW and Porsche ordering a vehicle from Tesla was the best car buying experience I have ever had.
As for the car, love the instant torque, consistent software updates, etc. Don't care for FSD or Autopilot, at all. Charge at home and work but Tesla has by far the most reliable charging infrastructure in the domestic US, if needed. Biggest complaints deal with the interior it definitely needs a lot of love for the base price of the vehicle, very spartan in an unbecoming way.
With that said, I also own a G82 M4 and 911 GT3. Usually choose to drive one of those more often than the MYP. Even when gas prices jumped up a bit.
As for the car, love the instant torque, consistent software updates, etc. Don't care for FSD or Autopilot, at all. Charge at home and work but Tesla has by far the most reliable charging infrastructure in the domestic US, if needed. Biggest complaints deal with the interior it definitely needs a lot of love for the base price of the vehicle, very spartan in an unbecoming way.
With that said, I also own a G82 M4 and 911 GT3. Usually choose to drive one of those more often than the MYP. Even when gas prices jumped up a bit.
It's the same shit as when you see threads with a news report that a Tesla has set on fire - people act like it's the only car that's ever happened to and conveniently ignore that it happens way less frequently than ICEs.
I'm all for criticising Tesla where it's valid (I personally think them removing the ultrasonic sensor is massively misguided and flawed logic that will prevent me from ever buying FSD from them), and believe me I would happily buy another brand if it offered the same stuff I need for the price, but this sort of topic is some petty bitch eating crackers stuff.
I'm pretty sure most people living in countries using the euro can get a loan to buy a 50k car, they aren't exactly hard to come by.
But if this is the bar we are setting for rich, I'm sorry guys I'm tapping out of the all eating the rich thing, my stomach just isn't big enough for that many people, hit me up when we go back to eating billionaires, meanwhile I will go back to eating people the old fashion way, which does include mostly people that can buy something in this price range.
I swear Tesla topics get absolutely hilarious, the wild stretches people come up with on this forum just to shit on Tesla is just something else, it is especially funny considering Tesla have many real issues deserving of criticism, that are not common in other cars, I mean even as far as cold weather conditions they still have issues with the heat pump kind of stopping to work when it gets actually cold, you know the kinds of conditions that would also create this much smaller and also common in other cars issue.
I wish Tesla would make a vehicle that actually looks good.
The blob (model Y) is one ugly POS for 70k.
The blob (model Y) is one ugly POS for 70k.
1) This video is AWESOME.
2) I've had ice form over my Model Y door handles, it only took a few bumps with my palm to break it free. Wasn't any big deal IMHO.
3) I love my 2021 Model Y, it's by far the best car I've ever owned.
4) I don't think I ever joined a cult? O_o
Tesla threads are so weird here in Era. Anyone in the market for an EV should check out the official thread in hangouts as threads in the main OT devolve into wild generalizations about Tesla owners
And honestly I do own a Model Y but I also love non Tesla EVs (the Hyundai Ionic 5 and the Polestar in particular) so I'm not in a "cult"
And honestly I do own a Model Y but I also love non Tesla EVs (the Hyundai Ionic 5 and the Polestar in particular) so I'm not in a "cult"
It's the cost of the efficiency. It's definitely function over form, and while it's kinda growing on me it really isn't a pretty car. We ordered my wife an Enyaq VRS which is absolutely gorgeous imo.
I work in climate work and this is straight up a republican talking point I get to hear weekly from people like Paul Gosar. So… congrats?
Lol pointing out that we aren't there yet isn't the same as saying it never will be. Don't take it so personally. Tesla did a great job of making it appealing to mainstream but as it is we aren't there yet and have a lot of work to do/processes to refine. New cars are destructive to the environment
Existing is destructive to the environment. That's not the question at hand when it comes to talking about EVs. If someone is going to buy a car, an EV is a much better environmental option. Full stop. Anything else is disinfo.
And also if someone is going to wait until the US gets to the point where public transportation can help with people who live in rural areas commute to their work, they will probably die waiting. For now yes an EV would be a better option environmentally
Um, this is not about a consumer good, but about the poster insulting the intelligence of all Tesla owners, which he received a ban for.
Right right fans of a consumer good. I've seen people say worse about fucking waiters and not get banned lol not every ban is objectively correct
With the way that the majority of power grids are right now alongside the costs/impact of manufacturing brand new EVs with new massive batteries, EVs are not currently far and away a much greener option than ICUs. When used EVs are more common this will change but no one buying new expensive luxury cars is doing anything to help the environment. If you're going to buy a car buy a used one. If this is disinfo you're free to supply counter evidence otherwise may I suggest not taking these things so personally?
Go ahead and dig in deeper while still misunderstanding that he was insulting all of us OWNERS of a product, simply for choosing that product. We are adults and can debate and disagree without insulting entire segments of the user base. I'm not sure why that's so difficult for you to understand.
Well I think he was banned because he was an asshole about it which I agree with (plus it's not even a long one). Era posters that post like that should be banned
Dig deeper on what? I don't agree with what he was saying lol but I don't know why the owners of a product are on an untouchable plane that no one else is on
You need to stop patronizing me by saying I'm taking things personally. That's a real nice tactic to dismiss someone else's pushback while acting like you're above it all while really just covering for being dismissive. Just because I push back at your posts and have personal and professional experience that invalidates your posts does not mean that "I'm taking things personally." You haven't cited a single source, and are just posting things so maybe provide evidence that's real and not just your own statements and then whine about someone calling you out and calling them too emotional.
This is not true. The "break even" point of an EV is based on this study. Even if a power plant is running off of coal, power plants run at significantly higher .
This article also cites the issues with broad statements like "just buy a used car" as universal truth to being less wasteful. Many old cars have emissions issues, as good fuel economy, and maintenance issues. Sure, some don't, but it's not as simple as you suggest and if you can afford a luxury car, once you hit the approximate 13,500 miles, you are now in net positive territory for waste vs. even the used car.
The EPA's website specifically disputes your claim about power grids.
ArsTechnica did a breakdown of your claims that used car is more efficient.
I mean I can keep going... but nah, I'm just being emotional about your disinformation about caring for our planet and dismissive attitude.
Lol why does someone being overly emotional over an argument mean that I'm dismissing what they're saying? You are absolutely very emotional over consumer goods but I will read into all this. Thank youYou need to stop patronizing me by saying I'm taking things personally. That's a real nice tactic to dismiss someone else's pushback while acting like you're above it all while really just covering for being dismissive. Just because I push back at your posts and have personal and professional experience that invalidates your posts does not mean that "I'm taking things personally." You haven't cited a single source, and are just posting things so maybe provide evidence that's real and not just your own statements and then whine about someone calling you out and calling them too emotional.
This is not true. The "break even" point of an EV is based on this study. Even if a power plant is running off of coal, power plants run at significantly higher .
This article also cites the issues with broad statements like "just buy a used car" as universal truth to being less wasteful. Many old cars have emissions issues, as good fuel economy, and maintenance issues. Sure, some don't, but it's not as simple as you suggest and if you can afford a luxury car, once you hit the approximate 13,500 miles, you are now in net positive territory for waste vs. even the used car.
The EPA's website specifically disputes your claim about power grids.
ArsTechnica did a breakdown of your claims that used car is more efficient.
I mean I can keep going... but nah, I'm just being emotional about your disinformation about caring for our planet and dismissive attitude.
This is classic gaslighting.
Hope you can talk humans in real life better than you do here.
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Lol I hope you start using the term in the correct contexts
EDIT: Interesitng tho the source you shared says that EVs have better emissions than used ICUs after 4 years. Which is quite a long time to say that you SHOULD buy a new car vs a used one
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Yea I don't understand the hate, I mean I guess I get it, but it's your money. Spend it how you will. No one is forcing people to buy a Tesla. There are options out there. I love my Y, but I would never hate anyone else because they bought another EV.
Is it like people and their console wars?
Is it like people and their console wars?
The only difference I can think of is the flush handles you need to push in with your thumb before you can get a 'handle' to grab and pull. So I can see that action being harder if frozen as you have less purchase on the mechanism. On a regular sticking out handle you can grab it no matter what, and pull to open.
This is also amplified by the frameless doors - a regular steel framed door you can pull pretty hard to break the seal. Frameless the glass can freeze in the door so the window won't go down - which makes it harder to open without damage.
Had that a few times in my BMW coupes so not unique by any means to Tesla.
Yah I live in Minnesota and I've had to do this at times with every single vehicle I've owned. It's slightly different with cars with frameless windows and the flush handles, but meh, it's not unique to Tesla