China Farming Authority announces list of what animals can be used as food w/ 1mo for public comment (dogs considered companion, should not be eaten)

SilentPanda · Apr 13, 2020

China Farming authority have announced a premiliary document allowing the selling, eating and making product out of 31 animal(Traditional and Exotic)

According to Central news Agency(Taiwan news) In order to stop the spread of new disease, CCP has ordered the stop of hunting exotic wilflife, Shenzhen(First city to ban dog and cat eating) want to nationalize the ban on eating cat and dog, but a dog meat company in Jiangsu disagree, saying it is a cultural pride, and shouldn't be banned.

The Central Farming Authority have published a premilary list asking for opinion, with the last day to submit idea on 05/08, that include 31 Animal.

Traditional animal 18 - Pig, 5 kind of cow, Sheep and goat, Horse, donkey, camel, rabbit, duck, geese, chicken, turkey, dove quial.

Exotic have 13, sika deer, Elk/Moose, Reindeer, Alpaca, Guinea fowl , pheasant, mallard , ostrich, water mink, silver fox, blue fox and finally Raccoon dog/Tanuki/Tom Nook

Central Farming Authority have deemed that Dogs are companion now, and not to be eaten

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DukeBlueBall · Apr 13, 2020

I'm guessing this doesn't cover water based animals? Because there are no fishes / frogs / snails etc.

Look sunbears are off the list.

Not going to be of much help when people forget and the wild-life trade goes underground again.

SilentPanda · Apr 13, 2020

DukeBlueBall said:
I'm guessing this doesn't cover water based animals? Because there are no fishes / frogs / snails etc.

Look sunbears are off the list.

Not going to be of much help when people forget and the wild-life trade goes underground again.

Water base I think might be fishing authority responsibility?

Spine Crawler · Apr 13, 2020

they eat tom nook?

Tom Glass · Apr 13, 2020

SilentPanda said:
(...)but a dog meat company in Jiangsu disagree, saying it is a cultural pride, and shouldn't be banned.(...)

Yeah, it's a hell of a thing to be proud for.

SilentPanda · Apr 13, 2020

Spine Crawler said:
they eat tom nook?

So does japan(In the past, not as common now, same with most of the exotic meat)

Dr Doom · Apr 13, 2020

Spine Crawler said:
they eat tom nook?

That's why they are banning Animal Crossing.

Xater · Apr 13, 2020

Spine Crawler said:
they eat tom nook?

Eat the rich!

Ocean Bones · Apr 13, 2020

Hopefully the bans are lasting and meaningful. And enforced.

Dreamgazer · Apr 13, 2020

Tom Glass said:
Yeah, it's a hell of a thing to be proud for.

Proper translation is "having confidence in our culture". Part of Xi's Confidence doctrine.

Four Confidences - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It may sound like a ridiculous argument, but this isn't the first time attempts or suggestions to ban dog meat have been suggested in China. "Cultural invasion" and "rights violation" is thrown around a lot.

P.S. Due to being blamed for the coronavirus outbreak + the unpopular CCP's Permanent Residency for Foreigner draft (where all of the incels have surfaced with racist, xenophobic arguments), the cultural invasion/foreign influence argument is flying about everywhere.

MajorBritten · Apr 13, 2020

That's certainly a step in the right direction, I just hope it's enforced. Another big problem is people wanting to eat animals alive that have not been cleaned or cooked, ive already seen videos of frog sashimi with one half of the frog trying to climb off the fucking plate and another of a restaurant serving live baby mice

Deleted member 5028 · Apr 13, 2020

Exotic have 13, sika deer, Elk/Moose, Reindeer, Alpaca, Guinea fowl , pheasant, mallard , ostrich, water mink, silver fox, blue fox and finally Raccoon dog/Tanuki/Tom Nook

Good one. Eat the rich.

DiK4 · Apr 13, 2020

Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

Cheesecakebobby · Apr 13, 2020

Dog restaurants are everywhere in China. Fuck, you can even find places advertising it in Japan.

Elfotografoalocado · Apr 13, 2020

DiK4 said:
Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

Horse meat is eaten in many countries and is perfectly safe.

VikingJoseph · Apr 13, 2020

DiK4 said:
Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

Eating horse is not uncommon around the world. And as far as I know, reindeer meat has its fans in pretty much any arctic country.

ɣGammaɣ · Apr 13, 2020

DiK4 said:
Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

Aehm, horse and donkey is pretty normal to eat, and healthier then beef.

Alice · Apr 13, 2020

DiK4 said:
Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

Scandinavic countries eat Reindeer. Pretty sure Alaska too. Horse and Donkey meat is eaten fairly frequently in Europe. Neither of those are even really exotic.

MarcyPoos · Apr 13, 2020

DiK4 said:
Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

Lol horse meat is sometimes used in place of beef in such far off lands as UK and US.

ISOM · Apr 13, 2020

Dreamgazer said:
Proper translation is "having confidence in our culture". Part of Xi's Confidence doctrine.

Four Confidences - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It may sound like a ridiculous argument, but this isn't the first time attempts or suggestions to ban dog meat have been suggested in China. "Cultural invasion" and "rights violation" is thrown around a lot.

P.S. Due to being blamed for the coronavirus outbreak + the unpopular CCP's Permanent Residency for Foreigner draft (where all of the incels have surfaced with racist, xenophobic arguments), the cultural invasion/foreign influence argument is flying about everywhere.

I find these Chinese nationalist complaining about potentially new immigrants funny considering how many China towns there are around the world. The hypocrisy makes me chuckle.

Titik · Apr 13, 2020

A step in the right direction. Yeah some might go underground but at least this is official now and will gradually force some habits to go the way of the dodo. Too bad the dodo is now extinct now though, because those things will likely be on the menu as well.

Zok310 · Apr 13, 2020

Eating up all the flesh on the earth...

KDR_11k · Apr 13, 2020

Finally hope for the pangolin? And all it took was unleashing a plague upon all mankind...

I generally find eating carnivores questionable, both from a parasite risk standpoint and an energy efficiency one, it's already plenty inefficient to feed plants to a herbivore and eat the herbivore vs just eating the plants but adding even more steps by feeding the herbivores to carnivores just makes it ridiculous.

Dreamgazer · Apr 13, 2020

ISOM said:
I find these Chinese nationalist complaining about potentially new immigrants funny considering how many China towns there are around the world. The hypocrisy makes me chuckle.

The ultra-nationalists don't care about the people who have "fled" the country. In fact one of the arguments against the draft was that it is just a ploy by the rich and powerful to bring their foreign born children/foreign laundered money back into the country.

Antiwhippy · Apr 13, 2020

DiK4 said:
Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

Must be nice to be so sheltered.

Antiwhippy · Apr 13, 2020

ISOM said:
I find these Chinese nationalist complaining about potentially new immigrants funny considering how many China towns there are around the world. The hypocrisy makes me chuckle.

I mean not that this is a good comparison, but how is it that different to British nationalist (and a couple of European ones as well) complaining about immigrants when their colonialism fucked up half the world.

Shodan14 · Apr 13, 2020

DiK4 said:
Why the fuck is horse and Donkey on there? What the FUCK

Exotic list is fucking bananas. A REINDEER. REALLY?

This is hilarious.

Buckle · Apr 13, 2020

I think I would eat my own arm off before I would eat a dog.

They're big slobbering tail wagging babies that love unconditionally.

John Dunbar · Apr 13, 2020

Buckle said:
I think I would eat my own arm off before I would eat a dog.

They're big slobbering tail wagging babies that love unconditionally.

i was offered some dog in the philippines. thought it would have been rude to decline (the first time they actually didn't tell me it was dog meat and then laughed and said i ate lassie).

Minilla · Apr 13, 2020

John Dunbar said:
i was offered some dog in the philippines. thought it would have been rude to decline (the first time they actually didn't tell me it was dog meat and then laughed and said i ate lassie).

Similar thing happened to me in Korea, was given a dog soup as a mystery speciality

Buckle · Apr 13, 2020

John Dunbar said:
i was offered some dog in the philippines. thought it would have been rude to decline (the first time they actually didn't tell me it was dog meat and then laughed and said i ate lassie).

What does it taste like?

John Dunbar · Apr 13, 2020

Buckle said:
What does it taste like?

closest to beef, i think. it was very chewy, got stuck between my teeth, though maybe that was just whatever part of the dog it was. i'm not a big meat eater in general so it's difficult for me to say.

it's not bad, generally speaking.

so1337 · Apr 13, 2020

SilentPanda said:
but a dog meat company in Jiangsu disagree, saying it is a cultural pride, and shouldn't be banned.

Imagine being so stuck in your ways that not even a global pandemic is enough to make you reconsider eating weird shit.

Antiwhippy · Apr 13, 2020

so1337 said:
Imagine being so stuck in your ways that not even a global pandemic is enough to make you reconsider eating weird shit.

I mean quite a number of countries eat dog, even the "role model for coronavirus control" South Korea.

Ithil · Apr 13, 2020

but a dog meat company in Jiangsu disagree, saying it is a cultural pride

Ah yes, that "cultural pride" that happens to also be your source of income. No correlation.

Dr. Mario · Apr 13, 2020

Not sure what the point of banning dog meat but allowing fox meat is, other than PR. Surely domesticated animals are more easy to control, though I guess the potential for a pandemic zoonotic virus also greater?

so1337 · Apr 13, 2020

Antiwhippy said:
I mean quite a number of countries eat dog, even the "role model for coronavirus control" South Korea.

My honest opinion is that eating human companions like dogs or cats is vile, and that's before the outbreak.

Antiwhippy · Apr 13, 2020

so1337 said:
My honest opinion is that eating human companions like dogs or cats is vile, and that's before the outbreak.

I mean that's fine, but dog eating really has nothing to do with the outbreak.

mieumieu · Apr 13, 2020

Tom Glass said:
Yeah, it's a hell of a thing to be proud for.

AFAIK In that particular county in Jiangsu Province they raise a special breed of dogs in a farm, used specifically for meat consumption.
I'm a bit more ambivalent towards this tbh

DiK4 · Apr 13, 2020

Antiwhippy said:
Must be nice to be so sheltered.

Horses and Donkeys are my friends. I don't eat my friends. They are necessary for travel, you wouldn't eat your car would you?

Alice said:
Scandinavic countries eat Reindeer. Pretty sure Alaska too. Horse and Donkey meat is eaten fairly frequently in Europe. Neither of those are even really exotic.

Eating a reindeer is like consuming millions of children's dreams while blood is gushing out of your mouth.

I shall rethink ever going to Europe.

MarcyPoos said:
Lol horse meat is sometimes used in place of beef in such far off lands as UK and US.

If people are tainting my beef with Horse....

No just no.

so1337 · Apr 13, 2020

Antiwhippy said:
I mean that's fine, but dog eating really has nothing to do with the outbreak.

So why are they being banned for consumption along with other exotic animals? Maybe I'm misinterpreting SilentPanda, but they made it seem as though the outbreak was cause for Shenzen to nationalize the ban on dog and cat consumption.

Antiwhippy · Apr 13, 2020

so1337 said:
So why are they being banned for consumption along with other exotic animals? Maybe I'm misinterpreting SilentPanda, but they made it seem as though the outbreak was cause for Shenzen to nationalize the ban on dog and cat consumption.

Because it's an image thing. Good pr and all that.

Darkonda · Apr 13, 2020

GammaGoblin said:
Aehm, horse and donkey is pretty normal to eat, and healthier then beef.

How does it taste? Compared to chicken, beef and pork?

Rory · Apr 13, 2020

VikingJoseph said:
Eating horse is not uncommon around the world. And as far as I know, reindeer meat has its fans in pretty much any arctic country.

Are you vegetarian?

I am too, and prior to getting pets I was not aware of what kind meats are sold in my country. (Germany.)

Usually its a seasonal thing, but there are many varieties: Chicken, beef, rabbit, turkey, duck, lamb, salmon being standard.

Hering, tunafish, red fish, ... prawn, goat, pheasant meat and game (usually deer meat) more exotic, kangaroo and reindeer seasonal. Horse is less accepted among human consumption but still present! And of course very common for pets.

Especially the exotic ones are fed to pets because dogs and cats developed allergies to more cheap and common meats.

We can look down at others for eating different animals than us, but to be honest as a vegetarian my problem does not lie with the consumption, but rather in the way these animals are held and raised.

Huncho_Houdini · Apr 13, 2020

Huh, Mallard is exotic? What is the difference between Mallard and Duck meat wise?

Chairman Yang · Apr 13, 2020

so1337 said:
My honest opinion is that eating human companions like dogs or cats is vile, and that's before the outbreak.

I hope you don't eat any meat from animals kept as human companions around the world, like pigs or cows.

tekomandor · Apr 13, 2020

Antiwhippy said:
I mean not that this is a good comparison, but how is it that different to British nationalist (and a couple of European ones as well) complaining about immigrants when their colonialism fucked up half the world.

There aren't still British troops in India, I suppose. Boris Johnson only dreams about the return of the Empire.

Untzillatx · Apr 13, 2020

so1337 said:
My honest opinion is that eating human companions like dogs or cats is vile, and that's before the outbreak.

But they are not eating their companions, unless you believe they eat their pets. They mostly eat dogs that have been raised separately and expressly to be eaten, just like the rest of the world does with cattle and some species of birds like chickens and ducks.

By the way, pigs make good pets. Most people still eat them though.

Ctrl Alt Del · Apr 13, 2020

Pretty bizarre list but I'm not familiar with all the kinds of meat actually being eaten in a country like China. However, it's cool they're addressing this matter and helping the people understand what's actually hazardous to eat.

Irishmantis · Apr 13, 2020

I know it's hypocritical to be against eating dogs but yet still eat Pigs and Cows

But just can't help it, love fluffy the fuck alone!

China Farming Authority announces list of what animals can be used as food w/ 1mo for public comment (dogs considered companion, should not be eaten)

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