China accuses ‘dangerous’ US of ‘creating chaos’ in Asia
Embassy in Manila condemns US after visiting White House envoy pledges support to the Philippines over maritime claims.
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China accuses ‘dangerous’ US of ‘creating chaos’ in Asia (NSA advisor Robert O’Brien promise Philippine, Vietnam and Taiwan “We’ve got your back”)
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China's diplomacy is just every form of bullying and abuse rolled up into one. It's really quite astounding.
Which part? Its no secret China has been bullying those weaker south China sea nations and even encroached in their sovereignty for more than 10 years now.
China's dream is the domination of Viet Nam as always, no matter who is in charge of that land, they have tried like 4 times in the past.
Canadian parliament just passed an Australian inspired anti-influence bill aimed at China
Really disappointed the Trudeau liberals largely did not support it. Only the opposition parties voted plus a few libs. but they had the majority
Really disappointed the Trudeau liberals largely did not support it. Only the opposition parties voted plus a few libs. but they had the majority
I dunno, it seems as if every other country but China in that region are pretty likeminded about who it is that is causing chaos in the region.
Even Vietnam, a country that has every reason to hate us forever, is actively trying to build stronger diplomatic and military relations with the US in an effort to counter China. Think about that for a second.Vietnam!
Even Vietnam, a country that has every reason to hate us forever, is actively trying to build stronger diplomatic and military relations with the US in an effort to counter China. Think about that for a second.Vietnam!
Right. Canada. Might want to get up to date on your world news there bud.
They're already in their own little war with Canada atm, so no dice there.
China is worried that it can't bully countries in the S China Sea without repercussion
The war with the US is a speck of dust compared to the long history Vietnam has with China. Vietnam basically spent one thousand years under China rules then another thousand year fending off China domination.
As shit as the US is when it comes to this sort of thing, China is way worse in this specific instance and in general when it comes to east Asia specifically
Ding ding ding ding!
More to the point though, I wish other world powers shows more willingness to compete with China with regards to financial investment in the SEA region. I'm way oversimplifying this but diplomacy aside, this is how you could more straightforwardly curb China's influence.
Won't be easy and def won't be cheap but hopefully worth it imho
This more for internal consumption in China then anything else.
Their whole diplomacy stance is "we can't appear weak". They're not going to flex any sort of hard power. They'll just keep building islands and letting fishermen run amok in the South China Sea till oops 30 years later it all belongs to China.
Their whole diplomacy stance is "we can't appear weak". They're not going to flex any sort of hard power. They'll just keep building islands and letting fishermen run amok in the South China Sea till oops 30 years later it all belongs to China.
Yeah, more economic relationships are the way to go. Some sort of Trans-Pacific Partnership
LOL, right, like Canada is going to let China cozy up to them.
They are though, its been arbitrated. China has no right to flop its dong out on Vietnamese and Filipino waters
Basically this. Coincidentally, if one takes a look at SK, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines and Vietnam on a map, they basically form a continuous barrier around China's maritime access and inhibit the growth of their naval reach, and they all happen to be friendly to the US. This is a pure political play to contain China that's been used by the US for decades.
You trying to tell me this isn't a totally reasonable territorial claim /s
You trying to tell me this isn't a totally reasonable territorial claim /s
The fact that they think this even looks vaguely reasonable.
Ok sure, but what if China tried to out-friendly the US with those countries instead of threatening them? Its insane that Vietnam is currently more friendly with US than China, isn't it?
China also recently annexed Bhutan's territory and constantly clashes with India over the border.
So I'd say that China is doing a pretty good job of inhibiting and isolating itself.
Not really. Vietnam fought a war with China after the US did and there are a ton of problems with that relationship going all the way back to the Soviet-Sino split. All of China's neighbors in general had been dominated by them for centuries and so now they are either US allies or use the US as a way to counter China's influence. China really has no way to go - except maybe Central Asia (hence the Silk Road initiative) and elsewhere in the world (i.e. Africa)
EDIT: India is a different situation entirely, but there are other reasons (i.e. Pakistan) why it's not in either of them's best interest to be too friendly with each other.
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CCP also use the rhetoric of "stop thinking with a cold war mentality" to anyone who does anything they don't like. While they interpret basically every action every country around them takes within the framing of US-China relations. Interpreting everything a nation does within a context like that is cold-war thinking.
Obviously, the US will influence some decision making, as will China. But plans and agreements that have taken near decades to get in order and finally ratified, then get interpreted in the context of the last year or so. There is no question though that a lot of the countries here are straight up caught in-between. It is a messy situation.
Obviously, the US will influence some decision making, as will China. But plans and agreements that have taken near decades to get in order and finally ratified, then get interpreted in the context of the last year or so. There is no question though that a lot of the countries here are straight up caught in-between. It is a messy situation.