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lupianwolf

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"This is definitely the hardest game I've had to market, and that's saying something," Wilson told me. "It has been a fucking nightmare. The fact that we're still so afraid of a topic like weed instead of the murder simulators you can market any time, anywhere, it's shocking."

Console game stores were reluctant to even carry it, and warned Devolver that it would never be featured, which is a death sentence for a game's discoverability. They couldn't get ads approved on Facebook or Instagram, and the person who submitted them even had his account suspended. And just this week, streamers trying out the game on YouTube had their videos demonetized.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/15/c...ws-games-industrys-backwards-stance-on-drugs/
 

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Yeah that's pretty ridiculous, especially considering marijuana is legal in quite a few states with that number increasing every year.

Also ridiculous considering ever major game retailer promoted, for example, GTA V, which involves drug dealing, torturing people, mass murder, and pulling off heists. Yet a simulation of a business that is legal in many states is somehow over the line?

Sony and Microsoft have also promoted the ability to buy episodes of Breaking Bad on their storefronts, a show entirely about selling meth.
 
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Tzarscream

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Yeah but like, yall know it's illegal in the vast majority of europe and rest of the world right?

The world doesn't revolve around the USA.
 

Meatfist

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Sorry champ, weed is just too edgy for us. Check out this video of Baraka ripping a face off, though
 

LordQuas

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Yeah but like, yall know it's illegal in the vast majority of europe and rest of the world right?

The world doesn't revolve around the USA.
Murder is illegal everywhere, but Hotline Miami didn't have these problems. It's a game where you receive contracts to murder hundreds of people gruesomely. I don't understand the logic here.
 

ZeroCoin

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Yeah but like, yall know it's illegal in the vast majority of europe and rest of the world right?

The world doesn't revolve around the USA.

Totally forgot how murder is legal in those places. /s

Not really surprising considering how stigmatized drugs / sex is here. I know public opinion is shifting on this, but it's going to take a while for businesses to feel confidant enough to push or even allow products like this.
 

eosos

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Interesting case here. Really off how it's perfectly fine to market murder simulators, but any controlled substances are just a no go. I assume the same even goes for alcohol (though I can't think of any attempted games revolving around something like distilling). Feel like their best bet for ads would be targeted marketing in areas that it's legal and enthusiast publications.

Edit: Also find the posters comments about it not being legal everywhere wild. Goes to show how (obviously illegal everywhere) violence is so engrained into gaming culture.
 

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Yeah but like, yall know it's illegal in the vast majority of europe and rest of the world right?

The world doesn't revolve around the USA.
I didn't knew that this game was actually selling weed to people, whew!

It's a game. It's not about murder, rape, heists or whatever, it's about selling weed. Just as there are hundreds more games about doing illegal shit, it's ridiculous that a game as inoffensive as this is getting this much pushback.
 

spam musubi

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It's even weirder considering a lot of game journos live in SF, where it's legal and quite prominent
 

Eolz

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That's not really surprising. The demonetization is weirder though.
"This is definitely the hardest game I've had to market, and that's saying something," Wilson told me. "It has been a fucking nightmare. The fact that we're still so afraid of a topic like weed instead of the murder simulators you can market any time, anywhere, it's shocking."
Are we gonna get that guy banned for false equivalence? (/s)
 

Virtua Saturn

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Well, I have it on my wish list. I just have 100 more things on my playlist over this management sim at the moment.
 

Budi

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I've had it wishlisted in Steam for a while (catched it from my Steam activity feed when a friend wishlisted it). Should probably look up some reviews, if there are any except user reviews. Absolutely ridiculous how it's treated.
 

Tzarscream

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Oh my god these murder takes...

Think about it more, "Weed Tycoon" is about the real life industry that actually exists and is a simulation of sorts, e.g. I don't think Heroin/Cocaine Tycoon would do that well either.

The games you all quoting me ad nauseum are supposed to be fictional, hence why people can sell them better as "fantasy."
 

Omnistalgic

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The stance on certain issues is ridiculous but is there a thread on this that finally answers the question; "is weed good/bad for you?"

Obviously smoking it does something to your lungs since you are inhaling toxins but any studies on vaping it or taking not it medicinally yet that's pretty solid?
 

Carnby

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To be fair, it's a dumb concept. I could see why it appeals to few.

It's not like we have alcohol tycoon games on the market. Or do we?
 

Brinbe

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sell it here in canadia... pretty fucking weird to see this about something so benign that I can go down the street to legally buy.
 

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Oh my god these murder takes...

Think about it more, "Weed Tycoon" is about the real life industry that actually exists and is a simulation of sorts, e.g. I don't think Heroin/Cocaine Tycoon would do that well either.

The games you all quoting me ad nauseum are supposed to be fictional, hence why people can sell them better as "fantasy."
Oh bull fucking shit, stop with this. Even if this was a Pablo Escobar simulator, it shouldn't be this controversial. It being "something that actually exists" means absolutely fucking nothing. WW1 and WW2 existed, and yet games about those wars still go on to sell millions and be advertised at primetime TV. What a ridiculous stance to take.
 

collige

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Oh my god these murder takes...

Think about it more, "Weed Tycoon" is about the real life industry that actually exists and is a simulation of sorts, e.g. I don't think Heroin/Cocaine Tycoon would do that well either.

The games you all quoting me ad nauseum are supposed to be fictional, hence why people can sell them better as "fantasy."
Probably because playing as a heroin or cocaine tycoon would involve the player doing far more fucked up shit than selling weed legally.

on the other hand, "heheh, weed" is not exactly a wide appeal for a game.
Hard to tell if your game can't be advertised though.
 

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I think the premise of the article is flawed as the chilly reception is indicative of the opposite, really. Everybody seems to be pretty desensitized to weed as some edgy or cool thing, so marketing a game around this aspect alone is not going to make it stand out in a crowd to most in the industry.
 

Tzarscream

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Oh bull fucking shit, stop with this. Even if this was a Pablo Escobar simulator, it shouldn't be this controversial. It being "something that actually exists" means absolutely fucking nothing. WW1 and WW2 existed, and yet games about those wars still go on to sell millions and be advertised at primetime TV. What a ridiculous stance to take.
So why are they finding it so hard to market then?
 

Taco_Human

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Chinatown Wars has a dedicated game mode for drug dealing. This is part of the reefer madness propaganda that just won't die.
 
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Oh my god these murder takes...

Think about it more, "Weed Tycoon" is about the real life industry that actually exists and is a simulation of sorts, e.g. I don't think Heroin/Cocaine Tycoon would do that well either.

The games you all quoting me ad nauseum are supposed to be fictional, hence why people can sell them better as "fantasy."

Imagine trying to sell Cigarette Tycoon.
 

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Yeah but like, yall know it's illegal in the vast majority of europe and rest of the world right?

The world doesn't revolve around the USA.
If you had "Murder Tycoon" it probably wouldn't be so easy.
Oh my god these murder takes...

Think about it more, "Weed Tycoon" is about the real life industry that actually exists and is a simulation of sorts, e.g. I don't think Heroin/Cocaine Tycoon would do that well either.

The games you all quoting me ad nauseum are supposed to be fictional, hence why people can sell them better as "fantasy."
You mean like all the other games named after illegal behaviors, like Hitman, Grand Theft Auto, etc.? Why is this any different? It's just as fictional as those games.
 

P-Tux7

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I assume the same even goes for alcohol (though I can't think of any attempted games revolving around something like distilling).
The ESRB put on Breath of the Wild's E10+ box that it contained references to alcohol.
What this actually entails is that if Link asks for alcohol at a tavern, the bartender says he's too young. I think there may be a drunken NPC or two, but it's odd that they think that this is a problem at all or encourages debauched behavior.
 

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Tetra-Grammaton-Cleric

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Oh my god these murder takes...

Think about it more, "Weed Tycoon" is about the real life industry that actually exists and is a simulation of sorts, e.g. I don't think Heroin/Cocaine Tycoon would do that well either.

The games you all quoting me ad nauseum are supposed to be fictional, hence why people can sell them better as "fantasy."

Well, there's Prison Tycoon, which is a simulator about the privatized prison system, something far more reprehensible than selling weed.
 

collige

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I just remember that there was a literal Scarfarce game on the PS2 that got a retail release with no controversy. I guess drug dealing is more palatable when it's based off a movie?

I think the premise of the article is flawed as the chilly reception is indicative of the opposite, really. Everybody seems to be pretty desensitized to weed as some edgy or cool thing, so marketing a game around this aspect alone is not going to make it stand out in a crowd to most in the industry.
Did you miss the part where they literally can't market it properly?
 

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So why are they finding it so hard to market then?
Because drug laws pretty much everywhere are stuck in the old ages, it's still a big-ass "no-no" for advertisers everywhere, and people still make a fuss when they have to deal with the matter.

Mix that with games, which people STILL associate with kids and you've got the perfect bomb on your hands.
These Video Games Are Teaching Our Kids To Sell And Use Drugs!
 

Mikebison

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Yeah but the idea of a weed simulator is just boring as fuck.

So ya played yourselves, Devolver.
 

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Because drug laws pretty much everywhere are stuck in the old ages, it's still a big-ass "no-no" for advertisers everywhere, and people still make a fuss when they have to deal with the matter.

Mix that with games, which people STILL associate with kids and you've got the perfect bomb on your hands.
These Video Games Are Teaching Our Kids To Sell And Use Drugs!
Except that doesn't stop them from promoting other games about committing crimes. Some of which involve selling drugs, murder for hire, grand larceny, grand theft auto, torture, kidnapping, prostitution, etc.