ChileERA | OT | - No ERAmos tan weones... LO SOMOS

[Serpens007]

Lo que me preocupa es la gente que se prepara todo el año para las fondas y es casi su sustento participar de eventos así. Hace un par de años hubo temporal en esas fechas y gente humilde perdio toda su inversion. Me dio ene lata ese año, fui al sur y ver que les pasó eso me dio un nudo en la guata. Prefiero mil veces viajar para allá a gastar que acá en Santiago, pero este año no habrá nada de nada, y quizás es para mejor en un tema sanitario.

Hay gente que se irá realmente a la chucha este año, es realmente preocupante que haya gente que diga que "no deben depender del Estado" si hay una fucking pandemia en curso

 

[LunaSerena]

Lo único bueno que les digan desde ya que las fondas es que no los fonderos saben desde ya que no deben realizar las inversiones en el tema. Uno de los problemas de los años anteriores es que ya tenian realizada toda la inversión asi que no podian recuperar nada por los temporales. Ahora hay muchos que simplemente no pondrán las lucas, y ojala los que ya hayan invertido algo puedan recuperarlo.

En temas de desempleo y pobreza, si, nos iremos a la mierda. En unos meses vamos a retroceder 20 o 30 años de avances....

 

[criesofthepast]

Just thinking about all those people packed into the fondas gives me the shivers.
One year won't be the end of the universe.

(By the way, I'm not the only crazy one awake at this hour?)

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Nah man my sleep schedule is all over the place. I slept 13 hours yesterday from 4pm to 5am this morning. 🙄👀

I mean the people who depend on fondas to survive business wise are just one of the millions of casualties who are going to be and have already been fucked over by all this. Its sad obviously but yeah #NOFondas!

 

[Serpens007]

Mi vida, salvo las restricciones sigue alternadamente normal. Día por medio en la oficina, de por si no solía salir mucho, y mis horarios siguen igual.

Pero no he visto a mi polola en dos meses y probablemente sean unos 4 o 5 más. Así que ahí esta mi vida a medias normal, a medias anormal.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Cuidense ERAweones, se viene aun lo peor. Trabajo en salud y uff.

 

[Serpens007]

Cuidense ERAweones, se viene aun lo peor. Trabajo en salud y uff.

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Animo y fuerzas!!!

 

[Serpens007]

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Como les va en estos días? Hoy harto frio y lluvia en Santiago, justo me tocó turno.

Para no hablar del elefante de la habitación

Finalmente, hace semanas, me compré la silla "Gamer" que logré pillar, y la verdad es que es bastante cómoda. Estéticamente no me gusta mucho (Dragster GT400), y si bien no es perfecta en sus dimensiones, el 99% del tiempo estoy más comodo que la chucha, como que siempre pillas como ajustarte a como quieres estar.

Lo que si, el material no es transpirable así que F en Verano

 

[Agni Kai]

Sigo viviendo en mi burbuja. No he revisado noticias hace como 5 días, pero asumo que está la cagá como siempre.

Me quedé sin edición física de TLOU2 porque lo quiero jugar día 1 y no quería arriesgarme a encargarlo de Zmart o Todojuegos. Más encima subieron harto los precios. Tampoco quería arriesgarme a salir al Persa por una copia física, así que lo pre-compré digital. Me gustó lo fácil y práctico que fue; y ahora me estoy cuestionando el propósito de mi repisa que está llena de juegos de PS4 (40+). Como la PS4 fue mi primera consola comprada con mi plata, le tengo especial cariño a los juegos físicos porque los trato como colección, pero en realidad ocupan harto espacio y solamente están ahí para llenar algún vacío emocional que debo de tener.

La vecina empezó a vender pan amasado. Le queda súper rico, pero su fuerte son las dobladitas. Nunca había comido dobladitas antes y son súper ricas. En especial cuando vienen recién hechas y les pongo una lámina de queso dentro. Un manjar.

Cuídense mucho!

 

[Serpens007]

Sigo viviendo en mi burbuja. No he revisado noticias hace como 5 días, pero asumo que está la cagá como siempre.

Me quedé sin edición física de TLOU2 porque lo quiero jugar día 1 y no quería arriesgarme a encargarlo de Zmart o Todojuegos. Más encima subieron harto los precios. Tampoco quería arriesgarme a salir al Persa por una copia física, así que lo pre-compré digital. Me gustó lo fácil y práctico que fue; y ahora me estoy cuestionando el propósito de mi repisa que está llena de juegos de PS4 (40+). Como la PS4 fue mi primera consola comprada con mi plata, le tengo especial cariño a los juegos físicos porque los trato como colección, pero en realidad ocupan harto espacio y solamente están ahí para llenar algún vacío emocional que debo de tener.

La vecina empezó a vender pan amasado. Le queda súper rico, pero su fuerte son las dobladitas. Nunca había comido dobladitas antes y son súper ricas. En especial cuando vienen recién hechas y les pongo una lámina de queso dentro. Un manjar.

Cuídense mucho!

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Me pasó eso con la PS3, tengo ene juegos físicos ahí, ahora la mayoria que tengo en las distintas plataformas son digitales (Especialmente ahora que le doy más al PC que a la PS4). De todos modos me da wea comprar digital sabiendo lo fragil de ser "propietario" de licencias y no productos.


¿La dura nunca habías comido dobladitas? Recuerdo cuando chico, cuando iba en el liceo, había un negocio cerca donde vivía (Maipú) que hacía las mejores dobladitas que he comido en la vida. Era como comer la masa de la empanada cuando está perfecta

 

[LunaSerena]

A mi me gano la tentación - compré la edición especial del Xenoblade en Zmart. Me dolió el bolsillo, pero colecciono esos libros y me dolia en el alma quedarme sin el. Se fueron a la mierda con los precios eso si, volvimos a los tiempos del dolar a luca.
Igual los juegos fisicos me gustan porque si no me gusto el titulo o me aburrió, los revendo y puedo recuperar algo de dinero. No puedes hacer eso con los digitales.

Empecé a intentar cocinar, y hasta ahora ha resultado de forma relativamente bien. A modo de referencia, soy capaz de echar a perder algo tan simple como huevos revueltos. Pero el otro día hice omelette y me quedo bien rico.

Y casi no salgo. Hoy sali por primera vez en 15 días porque tenía que comprar remedios y no podía seguir pateandolo. Me sorprendió lo vacio que estaba y en el super estaban fiscalizando los permisos, lo que me sorprendió gratamente.

 

[Futaleufu]

La vecina empezó a vender pan amasado. Le queda súper rico, pero su fuerte son las dobladitas. Nunca había comido dobladitas antes y son súper ricas. En especial cuando vienen recién hechas y les pongo una lámina de queso dentro. Un manjar.

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When I was a kid there was this old guy who made the best dobladitas I've ever tasted. He put cheese on them before cooking the dough. He sold them on stadiums and usually sold out the whole basket in less than 5 minutes. There's zero chance he is still alive, I hope he taught the recipe to someone.

 

[Agni Kai]

¿La dura nunca habías comido dobladitas? Recuerdo cuando chico, cuando iba en el liceo, había un negocio cerca donde vivía (Maipú) que hacía las mejores dobladitas que he comido en la vida. Era como comer la masa de la empanada cuando está perfecta

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Nunca antes. Me imaginaba que eran igual que las hallullas pero con otra forma, al igual que las que tienen forma cuadrada, entonces nunca les presté mucha atención. Ahora las compro día por medio mientras me intento poner al día por tanto tiempo perdido.

Voy a echar de menos el 18 este año. El año pasado tuve problemas estomacales en Septiembre y estuve con tratamiento de antibióticos para esa fecha, así que con este serán 2 años in a row sin 18 en mi caso. Cuando se acabe todo esto voy a ser el primer ser humano en La Piojera para tomarme un terremoto aunque no sea Septiembre.

 

[criesofthepast]

I just found out that in my building there is a whatsapp group of like 175 people who sell stuff within the building. Pan amasado, a lot of venezuelan food, etc. Anything you could imagine. But then that someone with coronavirus was ordering stuff from the group greeting people at the door and the admins of the building shut the group down. And then 3 other "secret" groups pop up. If you have corona do you not have to notify building admins? I know there is privacy law and all that but still. If true I wanna know who got the group shut down and pop them in the face if I see them one day.

My girl ordered a 3 leches from there and it was pretty nice the lady knocked, left the cake at the door, was wearing a mask and gloves. All deposited by transferencia. I mean this poor señora is trying to make a buck and doing things the proper way hygiene wise and gets shut down because some irresponsable dick.

I've basically been in my apartment for 4 months and am going to probably find some antidepressants because I feel like shit is finally starting to affect me. Been playing Destiny like 12 hours a day to pass time.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Animo y fuerzas!!!

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Gracias men. Esta super compleja la cosa, y si o si se pondrá peor.

Y aún así Piñera esta ahí y la gente volverá a votar por estos sacosdewea.

 

[Futaleufu]

Gracias men. Esta super compleja la cosa, y si o si se pondrá peor.

Y aún así Piñera esta ahí y la gente volverá a votar por estos sacosdewea.

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Some assholes were trying to convince Bachelet to run for a 3rd time. They cant eat without her.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Some assholes were trying to convince Bachelet to run for a 3rd time. They cant eat without her.

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I don't know what's worse, her for a 3rd time, Jak or Lavin.

 

[Serpens007]

I think that JAK won't be able to become president. His whole deal was with the plebiscite, as a Rechazo leader, but now the guy just dissapeared. Didn't you noticed how his whole twitter squad of bots turned into a full on Piñera and Mañalich defense force? He was becoming irrelevant, so he's now another oficialist guy. A 0 on the left. Even Sebastian Izquierdo is done. Lavin on the other hand, is the darling and their only hope.

 

[Futaleufu]

IMHO Lavin doesnt have a chance, too many skeletons on his closet, his latest gaffe was supporting the Apumanque reopening that only lasted a day. JAK only has to say he will bring order back.

 

[Serpens007]

IMHO Lavin doesnt have a chance, too many skeletons on his closet, his latest gaffe was supporting the Apumanque reopening that only lasted a day. JAK only has to say he will bring order back.

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His blindspot to gain widespread appeal is AFPs. You can't have a popular widespread appeal to win an election if you just keep supporting them (Chile Vamos supports them, but they still have some appeal to voters just by being of the duopoly)

 

[Agni Kai]

Anoche puse Mujeres Arriba en Netflix porque me salía en los recomendados y a estas alturas las opciones eran ver esto o Breaking Bad por cuarta vez. Siempre pensé que lo más bajo del cine chileno eran las cosas que hacían los hermanos Badilla y Nicolás López, pero no.

Hoy me levanté con la motivación at an all time low y creo que fue a raíz de esa película. Nisiquiera la terminé de ver.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Anoche puse Mujeres Arriba en Netflix porque me salía en los recomendados y a estas alturas las opciones eran ver esto o Breaking Bad por cuarta vez. Siempre pensé que lo más bajo del cine chileno eran las cosas que hacían los hermanos Badilla y Nicolás López, pero no.

Hoy me levanté con la motivación at an all time low y creo que fue a raíz de esa película. Nisiquiera la terminé de ver.

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Yo vi unos videos de peliculas Qls y quede con la misma sensacion de mierda.

 

[criesofthepast]

Stupid question, half asleep. But how does the private/public health system here work in times of a pandemic? Are the private hospitals "forced" (not sure if right word) by the government to accept people from the public system? And at no cost to the patient? When they talk about number of beds available and stuff are they including private and public together? I've always wondered how closely together they are working.

Like if I have fonasa and there are no beds at my hospital could they technically send me to clinica las condes for example? Would I get a massive bill if I just show up at clinica las condes gravely ill only covered under fonasa?

 

[Serpens007]

Privates have to put beds for public use, but so far it has been a percentage of what they could add. When they speak of total beds available, they speak of both the public and those the privates let to be used by the public system. There is an administrator that coordinate this (who, by the way, is a shareholder of Clinica Las Condes and was administrator there too). In any case, beds in RM are virtually at full capacity, both private and public.

I don't know how billing is working for covid cases, because normally in Fonasa you still get charged depending on your income (separated in A,B,C, etc.) I think B tier covers up to 80% of expenses. But for Covid, I don't really know.. If there is a bed avaliable in Clinica Las Condes, and you are lucky, you could get sent there and Fonasa would cover the same as in the public system. As far as I know at least

 

[Agni Kai]

It's worth listening to this. It might answer some of your doubts. I would translate what's explained in there, but I don't want to butcher it.

[Audio] ¿Quién paga los gastos médicos si quedo hospitalizado por coronavirus?

Una preocupación adicional al temor que provoca la epidemia.

www.cooperativa.cl

 

[criesofthepast]

Privates have to put beds for public use, but so far it has been a percentage of what they could add. When they speak of total beds available, they speak of both the public and those the privates let to be used by the public system. There is an administrator that coordinate this (who, by the way, is a shareholder of Clinica Las Condes and was administrator there too). In any case, beds in RM are virtually at full capacity, both private and public.

I don't know how billing is working for covid cases, because normally in Fonasa you still get charged depending on your income (separated in A,B,C, etc.) I think B tier covers up to 80% of expenses. But for Covid, I don't really know.. If there is a bed avaliable in Clinica Las Condes, and you are lucky, you could get sent there and Fonasa would cover the same as in the public system. As far as I know at least

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It's worth listening to this. It might answer some of your doubts. I would translate what's explained in there, but I don't want to butcher it.

[Audio] ¿Quién paga los gastos médicos si quedo hospitalizado por coronavirus?

Una preocupación adicional al temor que provoca la epidemia.

www.cooperativa.cl

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Yeah that pretty much answered my questions. Thanks.They are pretty clear on repeating to head to the nearest consultorio or hospital if you are with fonasa and only if your dying or "in the neighborhood" I guess that you can head to a private clinic and fonasa will cover you the same as if in a public hospital until you are healthy enough to get the boot or pay up I guess.

I just kind of had the thought of an older person being pretty sick and poor, or any age for that matter, and why they wouldn't show up at a private clinic to better their odds or at least be more comfortable perhaps? Not like they can turn you away on your deathbed. I don't know how often this happens here if at all. I have never had a bad experience in the public system here the few times I've had to use it. But also never been in an public emergency room here so I don't know what thats like other than my ex-gf whos a doctor here and her stories. I've been to like SAPU. I'm guessing the private system here is like the canadian public system quality wise.

 

[Agni Kai]

Yeah that pretty much answered my questions. Thanks.They are pretty clear on repeating to head to the nearest consultorio or hospital if you are with fonasa and only if your dying or "in the neighborhood" I guess that you can head to a private clinic and fonasa will cover you the same as if in a public hospital until you are healthy enough to get the boot or pay up I guess.

I just kind of had the thought of an older person being pretty sick and poor, or any age for that matter, and why they wouldn't show up at a private clinic to better their odds or at least be more comfortable perhaps? Not like they can turn you away on your deathbed. I don't know how often this happens here if at all. I have never had a bad experience in the public system here the few times I've had to use it. But also never been in an public emergency room here so I don't know what thats like other than my ex-gf whos a doctor here and her stories. I've been to like SAPU. I'm guessing the private system here is like the canadian public system quality wise.

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There are 2 consultorios you can go to. If I recall correctly, we are in the same neighborhood. There is CECOSF Atacama on Segunda Avenida #1462 and CESFAM Recreo on Varas Mena 785, just across Gran Avenida. From my personal experience, CECOSF Atacama is usually emptier than the other one, so you can see a doctor relatively quick in there.

My experience with the private system has always been awful to be honest. My fiancée was once very ill when she was on holidays in here. She had a very specific health insurance that required her to go to Clínica Las Condes in case of an emergency. So, we went all the way there to get help and after about an hour or so of waiting, we were told that it was not possible to take her in because "the insurance was not recognized by their 'sistema'". We called the insurance company and they confirmed this clinic was the place to go, but CLC still refused to take my -back then- girlfriend in. Annoyed, angry, and worried I stood there for about 5 minutes and decided to take my SO to a public hospital. We only waited like 10 minutes before they took her in.

 

[criesofthepast]

There are 2 consultorios you can go to. If I recall correctly, we are in the same neighborhood. There is CECOSF Atacama on Segunda Avenida #1462 and CESFAM Recreo on Varas Mena 785, just across Gran Avenida. From my personal experience, CECOSF Atacama is usually emptier than the other one, so you can see a doctor relatively quick in there.

My experience with the private system has always been awful to be honest. My fiancée was once very ill when she was on holidays in here. She had a very specific health insurance that required her to go to Clínica Las Condes in case of an emergency. So, we went all the way there to get help and after about an hour or so of waiting, we were told that it was not possible to take her in because "the insurance was not recognized by their 'sistema'". We called the insurance company and they confirmed this clinic was the place to go, but CLC still refused to take my -back then- girlfriend in. Annoyed, angry, and worried I stood there for about 5 minutes and decided to take my SO to a public hospital. We only waited like 10 minutes before they took her in.

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Damn man had no idea about these and CECOSF is right around the corner. Good to know. See, your experience is exactly the kind of thing that leaves me skeptical of private health care systems. I'll leave it at that as I don't want to get into this debate and just hope people are getting the care they need regardless where they end up and without going bankrupt.

 

[NHarmonic.]

Fuck every Piñera public speech makes my blood boil more and more.

And the polls say his popularity is raising? this country is fucked.

 

[Futaleufu]

Fuck every Piñera public speech makes my blood boil more and more.

And the polls say his popularity is raising? this country is fucked.

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There are 2 polls, one says he is rising, the other says he is dropping.
Don't trust polls.

 

[Serpens007]

Fuck every Piñera public speech makes my blood boil more and more.

And the polls say his popularity is raising? this country is fucked.

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It really doesn't surprise me, his popularity before was also tanked by those that thought he was "too soft" on protesters. The right is semi-united protecting Piñera during the pandemic, even Kast is at his service

 

[Agni Kai]

I was thinking the other day that Estallido Social is pretty much dead at this point. Lots of jobs were lost during October/November and now it's even worse because of the pandemic. Should a second Estallido Social attempt to happen, it would be easy for most people to link it to even more unemployment, so this time we would have a lot of people against any type of considerable social changes.

Crime rate is also increasing and people are aware of it. Given the quarantine, it's quite easy to watch news and see narcos getting restless and taking control of poblaciones, plenty of armed robbery cases and looting. You also have the negative perception of how people are not respecting the quarantine and are hosting parties and whatnot.

Taking all this into consideration, I assume most of people want things to go back to normal now. Any right wing political party could come and announce "order" and people would just go for it. It sucks, but that's what it is.

 

[Serpens007]

I don't think that people will forget big companies retiring their profits while not paying wages, or ENEL increasing the bills during the pandemic, etc.

It's hard to know if there is gonna be a "estallido", but stuff will happen again, I'm pretty sure. But it will encounter fierce opposition, both in right wing parties as with some people. It will be a heavy moment in history, akin to those of the 1920/30s in Europe

 

[Agni Kai]

I don't think that people will forget big companies retiring their profits while not paying wages, or ENEL increasing the bills during the pandemic, etc.

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Of course most people won't forget about all this shit, but fighting for a change will be associated to more unemployment and that's where right wing parties will take advantage from.
People will try to go for the option that means "going back to normal" as soon as possible. I personally believe that people in favor of Rechazo will be much more visible now. Hell, I even see them winning this time.

 

[Futaleufu]

This explains Lavin's pathetic turn to the left, because the right is going to vote for JAK even if they dont acknowledge it in public.

 

[Serpens007]

It's really hard to know for sure.

On the one hand, you see people like Luksic going full force into propaganda machine with his Canal 13, having Lavin there every day, with Cubillos, Schalper, etc. people that are really shit in their logic, but are good propaganda talkers. On the other, people like Kast have turned silent going into government cheerleaders. So, it's really like the Right has done what they always do right: unite because there is a bigger threat.

At the same time, there are talks of the government going to actually drop their program in favor of reaching a consensus with the right-lite (PS, DC, PPD). This is not just out of benevolence: government politics are just so out of touch with public sentiment, that it's much better to make concessions are reach a deal that might not be what they want but allows the political class to maintain the Status Quo, than risking another outrage.

You also have yet another left coallition forming, basically everyone BUT the Nueva Mayoria + PC, to create an answer to the pitifuly called "Pacto Nacional".

There is a panic mode in sight. But know how the people are really feeling it's hard since all you can see are either the algorithmic bubble of social media or our own feelings and fears.

 

[NHarmonic.]

I expect another huge uprising. More people now have absolutely nothing to lose, specially after the shitshow of Corona. The left is dead btw, and the right are clowns.

Sooner or later, too many people without money or food. What did Piñera do? Fucking 50k and a crappy box of food for like 2 days max. This circus is falling soon.

 

[jnWake]

The parties that are very left oriented never learn, they always have inner fights of who's "true left" and who isn't and because of that never manage to actually have any political power.

 

[Javier]

Another "estallido"?, you can be damn sure about it, I mean, people will not forget all the dumb shit the goverment has done until now, how bussiness are forcing their workers to go to work putting they and their families at risk, how they put Jorge Ruz (ex-editor of La Cuarta and ex-producer of the Piscinazo de la reina del festival de viña) as "Jefe de División de Estudios del Ministerio de La Mujer y EG", how they've lied us over and over and over again about the amount of sick people and deaths related to the Covid19, how they expected the Covid to become a good guy, how they humilliated the people receiving the boxes with food by making it a damn show. Damn, the more I remember the more I get angry.

Now, when are we expecting to open up the country like New Zeland?, I say August.

 

[criesofthepast]

Anyone who lives in an apartment know how much you pay per m3 in agua caliente? I got charged 25 effin mil pesos this month in hot water saying i used 9000m3 of hot water which i find ridiculous because the two of us maybe in a high usage month use 3000m3 max and thats an eggagerated month. Being charged $2.800 per m3 which i also find to be an increase over months past but cant find my old gastos comunes at the moment to check.

Have utilities gone up in the midst of a pandemic?

 

[LunaSerena]

We're in winter time, so the winter tariffs should be in place. If you consumed over a certain threshold, then companies can charge you extra. It's weird for that to happen, though - I smell fuckery in your building's managenent and in gastos comunes. I'd ask for the detail if I were you.

On a semi related topic - how have your ISP been behaving for you? I have movistar, with good old copper cables and whenever this pandemic ends I'm kicking the fuckers out and getting Entel. Service has been terrible, and my internet's been even slower than usual (which is saying a lot). I just want to get fiber and get a decent, 21th century level connection. So, anybody has had issues with Entel (or others)?

 

[Robaperas]

VTR shat the bed the first few weeks, then went back to normal, my cousin is WFH since march, and his connection failed almost everyday for a couple of weeks, so it's more luck than anything else. I have Entel but only on my phone, every time I went out it never gave me any problems.

 

[NHarmonic.]

I want to upgrade too, but i don't know... Entel has never given me problems with 4G but i don't know how are their home services tbh.

 

[criesofthepast]

We're in winter time, so the winter tariffs should be in place. If you consumed over a certain threshold, then companies can charge you extra. It's weird for that to happen, though - I smell fuckery in your building's managenent and in gastos comunes. I'd ask for the detail if I were you.

On a semi related topic - how have your ISP been behaving for you? I have movistar, with good old copper cables and whenever this pandemic ends I'm kicking the fuckers out and getting Entel. Service has been terrible, and my internet's been even slower than usual (which is saying a lot). I just want to get fiber and get a decent, 21th century level connection. So, anybody has had issues with Entel (or others)?

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My building admin is fucked so wouldnt be surprised if there is shadiness going on here.

Anyways I have movistar and haven't had any issues. I've had one billing issue and two outages i think in 2 years with them so I can't complain. When a movistar tech came to put in my internet i was cool with him and message him from time to time to be nice. Last outage, i called customer service and they gave me an appointment for a tech to come by 2 days later. Then movistar buddy hooked me up calling his supervisor to send a tech that same day. So yeah be extra nice to your tech guys basically!

 

[Agni Kai]

On a semi related topic - how have your ISP been behaving for you? I have movistar, with good old copper cables and whenever this pandemic ends I'm kicking the fuckers out and getting Entel. Service has been terrible, and my internet's been even slower than usual (which is saying a lot). I just want to get fiber and get a decent, 21th century level connection. So, anybody has had issues with Entel (or others)?

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Movistar here. I haven't had any major issue during the last year. Up until May last year, we also had a copper cable connection. It was awful. Imagine having to download games at 1mb/s for YEARS. We now have a 200/100 fiber connection and it really works like magic. I assume there isn't fiber around your neighborhood yet?

By any means, please avoid VTR. I have read horror stories these last few days. I think GTD Manquehue is also really good.

 

[Futaleufu]

VTR has this nasty habit of resetting my router on any given day from 1:00-2:00 AM. I know people using the VTR router as the house router and losing printer and network settings.

 

[Serpens007]

Weirdly enough, I've had little to no issues with VTR. Two times I got a disconnection solved by resetting the Router, and for some days in april I had shit internet speed. Other than that, nothing.

VTR usually don't give me problems, but when it does, it does in a shitty way.

But for now, everything's okay... *knock knock* on wood.

 

[jnWake]

VTR for me has been stable but some days the download or upload speed becomes ridiculously low.

 

[LunaSerena]

Movistar here. I haven't had any major issue during the last year. Up until May last year, we also had a copper cable connection. It was awful. Imagine having to download games at 1mb/s for YEARS. We now have a 200/100 fiber connection and it really works like magic. I assume there isn't fiber around your neighborhood yet?

By any means, please avoid VTR. I have read horror stories these last few days. I think GTD Manquehue is also really good.

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Nope, and it's infuriating. My house is in front of a park, and all the houses in the other side have fiber (couple of friends live there, it was a new project) while my side has all but been forgotten. Same shit for the past 15 years, so I know your pain. I doubt Movistar will ever throw fiber here at this rate, unless they're somehow forced by law.

 

[Serpens007]

Cross posting from the COVID thread

Phew, it's been a day alright... let me start by this

CHILE'S HEALTH MINISTRY LIED ABOUT COVID DEATH TOLL, REPLACES HEALTH MINISTER WITH AN ANTIVAXXER

Independent journalist site discovered that Chile was reporting more deaths to the WHO than those reported to the population of our own country. Death toll should be higher than 5.000, while the reported until yesterday were 2.870.

https://ciperchile.cl/2020/06/13/mi...-mas-alta-que-la-informada-a-diario-en-chile/

In the wake of this, President Piñera decides to finally remove the highly criticized health ministry, who was expelled of the Medical national union due to ethics problems years ago. In it's place, names Dr. Enrique Paris, who has been several times invited to the Right Wing Billionaire Androniko Luksic's TV station Canal 13 to support the ministry strategy during covid-19 Pandemic. He's also an Antivaxxer.



So... death toll hasn't been updated yet but, here's the update for June 13th *sigh*

+ 6.509 new positives, 167.335 total
+ 231 new deaths reported, 3.101 total
+ 1.408 ventilated, 377 critical, 305 ventilators remaining
+ 20.223 reported tests, 819.999 total

12th in total cases globally, 6th per cápita, 20 in deaths, 22 per cápita.

A less than 20 million population country, ruled by a horrible presidency and a terrible opposition.

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Enrique Paris po weon, un antivacunas. Diría que hubiese sido mejor opción Karla Rubilar dado que también es médico pero tiene un caracter mucho más conciliador, pero después de ponerle el pecho a las balas del instructivo por las cajas de alimentos de hecho ni siquiera debería estar donde está

 

[LunaSerena]

Cross posting from the COVID thread




Enrique Paris po weon, un antivacunas. Diría que hubiese sido mejor opción Karla Rubilar dado que también es médico pero tiene un caracter mucho más conciliador, pero después de ponerle el pecho a las balas del instructivo por las cajas de alimentos de hecho ni siquiera debería estar donde está

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I don't want to fight, but the anti vaxxer stuff was dismissed at least a couple of years ago. Let's give the guy a chance before asking for his head.

¿Es el ministro Enrique Paris antivacunas?

El nombramiento de Enrique Paris como nuevo ministro de Salud generó una nueva polémica, siendo acusado como "antivacunas".

www.eldinamo.cl