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Dracil

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Oct 30, 2017
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No ethical consumption under capitalism is not an excuse to not try to do better
 

MrBadger

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Oct 27, 2017
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America is such a joke. They have a million fast food burger places but their fav is the one that hates gay people
 

Malverde

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Pretty much this.

This thread is disappointing as fuck.
 

Haze

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The gap between the quality of chick fil a's food and the next best place with a drivethru is fucking massive. It is a real shame about their stances and I don't hold anyone not eating their because of those against them.

Canes is ass.

Chik-fil-a is ok, but Cane's is fucking great and I'll gladly fight anyone who says otherwise.

Pull up
 

vanmardigan

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Oct 27, 2017
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Now I want to eat some CFA. These fast food threads always have that effect on me lol. There seem to be a few here in Chicago.
 

Lo-Volt

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Oct 27, 2017
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How do pro-LGBT people deal with the cognitive dissonance?

To a lot of people, it isn't. They think their personal consumer choices are amoral and cost-free.

(Or, for other consumer items and to get away from the CFA subject for a sec, there's no choice sometimes. If your town only has a Walmart and you ain't rich, you're shopping there even if its policies are gross and have wreaked havoc on everything you hold dear.)
 

Zelas

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Oct 25, 2017
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America is such a joke. They have a million fast food burger places but their fav is the one that hates gay people
America isnt alone when its comes to having a selfish mindset. People period are all about the personal here and nows. Everyone else can ban together against America but nooo, wouldnt want to miss out on a few extra american dollars. Try counting all the excuses every country gives to not do all they can to fight all kinds of existential threats.
 

Bunkles

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Oct 26, 2017
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Eating Chick-Fil-A breakfast right now. <3 Chick Minis.
 

clearacell

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Oct 27, 2017
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People who say they are LGBTQ allies yet eat CFA are like Trump supporters saying they're not racist. I haven't had CFA since I found out their policies years ago despite there being many around where I live.
 
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I'm admittedly a queer person who occasionally eats Chik Fil A :/

The grilled chicken nuggets are virtually the healthiest fast food option out there. The customer service is also so good. It's nice having people be polite to you.
 

Z-Beat

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Oct 25, 2017
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I blame the people who shat on In N Out in every thread we had on it. You let this happen.
 

Torpedo Vegas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Parts Unknown.
The only time I ever went there. I had to go there recently for work to pick up food for a meeting, since it is literally in our parking lot. I found it to be a very creepy and unsettling experience. The employees seemed off, like polite to the point it seemed wrong. It was super annoying. There were like 5 MAGA hats and not a minority in sight. Then I found their chicken sandwich to be soggy and bland.

I'd be happy to never step foot in there again.
 

WorldofMiku

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I'm British, but hands down CFA is the best fast-food restaurant I've ever eaten when I visited America.
 

Zero315

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think his point is that eating these chicken sandwiches isn't hurting the community. It's having no real effect on the community, and if anything all that hate that the company's overlords have is just funneling their money into a useless cause (being anti-LGBT).
They donated money to Exodus International, meaning they directly funded an organization that forced LGBT youth into harmful conversion therapy. So yes, they have had a real effect on the community.
 

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I try not to eat there but occasionally I have a craving for those sandwiches. They are undeniably delicious
 

Notaskwid

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was working for about 3 weeks in the US and ate CFA a couple of times because it was brought into the office. Can't say I'd go there and buy a meal myself, but got to admit they make a great chicken sandwich, probably the best fast food I ate while in the US.
 

DonnieTC

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I don't eat much fast food anymore but when I do end up there it's always pretty packed. Even so the service is always fast. For what it is and for the price, it's pretty good.

EDIT: Oh and I'll echo the disappointment with In and out. Was in California a couple of months ago and was pretty hyped to try it for the first time. I didn't find anything special about it at all.
 

captive

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Oct 25, 2017
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Alright, people, we've got to fucking stop this nonsense.

It's a good chicken sandwich. Look, I get it. It's hard to ascribe religious fundamentalist bullshit to them, when the people are nice, when even the people that work there are generally pro-LGBT. And look, I understand, the owners are Christofascists. They're going to support what they want to support, I understand pulling your support from them. But goddamn, can we cool it a bit?

I'm trans. I don't give a fuck if you eat chicken. It's good chicken, enjoy it! You can still be an ally even though you engage in problematic consumption habits, just be there when we need you there. That's what matters. Getting pissed off at people if you *aren't* LGBT because they like a chicken fucking sandwich is legitimately actual virtue signalling, it's time to stop.

If we wanted to force out every one that enjoys something from a fucked business or person, we'd be banning 99% of the site, ourselves included.

I like Amazon, it's convenient, and where the fuck else am I going to get anything? Oh, but that's right, their mistreatment of workers is bad -- of course, we only really get up in arms about them because they're big and in the news, what about other companies, too? Do you think your shoes aren't problematic? Your clothes? The car you drive, the gas you pump, the food you eat, no matter what it is? Guess what, if you aren't growing your own goddamn food, it was picked by a laborer making less than minimum wage -- sometimes children, even in the US, because child labor laws don't apply in that case -- so anything you eat? Problematic. If you purchase something, it was purchased with the blood, sweat, and tears of countless workers, from a place that profits off of the blood, sweat, and tears of workers, who got their raw materials from the blood, sweat, and tears of workers.

Are you going to be an ascetic in the fucking mountains, or something?

For fuck's sake.

Eat your goddamn chicken, don't vote for bigots, back us up when they're trying to disappear us. Enough is enough. You can criticize Chik-fil-A, their corporate private owned bullshit deserves it. But tiny support with a sandwich every now and again isn't going to be the difference between supporting LGBT causes and being with us fighting, and leaving us hanging when we need you the most.

They'll be donating to fascist causes any way, your pennies of support per sale isn't gonna turn a fucking tide.

Resetera doesn't need these crusades. It's a fucking sandwich. Kids are in goddamn concentration camps, LGBT people are being discriminated on a state-sanctioned basis. They're trying to take away millions of peoples' healthcare, again. They're trying to remake the very fabric of our country in their Christofascist last gasp.

Maybe I'm alone on the T side getting mad about this, but it's like everyone is tripping over themselves to show everyone how goddamn liberal they are. If you're too self-righteous to eat a chicken sandwich, how can we count on you when the time comes to defend us?
im just quoting this for truth.

there's pretty much no ethical consumption in our current economy.
 

Sulik2

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Oct 27, 2017
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Chick-fil-A and In-N-Out are both garbage. America we need to stop accepting bad fast food. Embrace the perfection of Golden Chick, Cook Out and Bojangles french fries.
 

PIMPBYBLUD

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Oct 27, 2017
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Chick-FIl-a is some good shit period. I do miss In-N-Out though and wish we had them in GA. It's absolutely one thing I miss about living in CA.
 

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This thread needs a *see staff post* or something. The shaming is getting outta hand.

Oh please, this is bullshit. You want to excuse eating homophobic chicken, go right ahead, but you won't silence those who have an issue with you.

One of my ex's was put into a conversion therapy program because of his parents. Guess who funds shit like that? Real world consequences.
 

AliceAmber

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May 2, 2018
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I have no desire to ever buy from Chick-fil-A ever again. Garbage company.
 

fontguy

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As an annoying Era socialist, I'd like to talk about this. I don't give Chik-fil-a my business, but I can't hold it against anyone who does.

I know a lot of queer people who are aware of Chik-fil-a's bullshit but still eat there. I know some users here are baffled by this sort of thing, but I think I know why they do this. I think it's because they, despite definitely not being socialists, are at least on some level aware of the ethics of consumption, and the ultimate lack of choice we have.

But what do us socialists even mean when we say shit like "There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism?" McDonald's and Burger King are built upon the hell-on-earth factory farming that we all love to not watch videos of because it'll give us PTSD (seriously, I saw a 3-second clip involving a single pig in a factory farm like 10 years ago and it still fucks me up). Wendy's donates thousands to the GOP every year. Wal-Mart forces the government to subsidize their exploitation/underpayment of the desperate, working poor (and the underpayment of workers by companies like Wal-Mart means that more people have to buy products where they are the cheapest—places like Wal-Mart). Our phones are made by abused Chinese workers who force their employers to install suicide nets (because it's cheaper than making them somewhere with any sort of regulation). Even Costco, a company that almost miraculously compensates/treats its employees well and pays its fair share in taxes, is not clean. They make their money selling the products their suppliers make by exploiting their own workers and resources. It's inescapable.

I bought a can of Coke yesterday. That money I spent contributes to:
  • The abuse and maiming of miners in Indonesia (that's how Coca-Cola gets its cheap aluminium)
  • Global warming and the general destruction of our environment (much of the energy expended in production could come from renewables, but that'd cost more money so it doesn't)
  • The perpetuation of the obesity crisis (Coke spends millions to find new ways to shout at or subconsciously imply to the American public that they should be drinking Coke and not literally anything else)
  • The poisoning of American kids' bodies (junk food brands pay public schools millions to allow the sale of their products in cafeterias)
  • The Israeli far right (The Coca-Cola Company donated money to Im Tirtzu because ????)
  • The poisoning of groundwater in India (I don't even know how exactly this fucking happens, but one of their factories just happened to have a bunch of sludge containing cadmium, chromium, and lead on hand, so they dumped it all into the water because why not?)
  • The total capture of water supplies in small Mexican towns (funny thing, the people living in some of these towns were left with so little water that they had buy bottled water... from Coca-Cola)
  • The intractability of all of the above (lobbying governments all over the world is cheaper than dealing with the reforms or regulations they might enact)
  • Every awful thing Coca-Cola executives ever donated to or supported through their own purchases
I'm not writing this to defend Chik-fil-a, I just want people to see what us socialists see—a system where there are no choices that don't perpetuate the absolute highest levels of exploitation/abuse of all living things humanly possible.
 
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Oh please, this is bullshit. You want to excuse eating homophobic chicken, go right ahead, but you won't silence those who have an issue with you.

One of my ex's was put into a conversion therapy program because of his parents. Guess who funds shit like that? Real world consequences.
Homophonic chicken? Lol

I get what you're saying but that wasn't worded the best.
 

Cpt-GargameL

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Oh please, this is bullshit. You want to excuse eating homophobic chicken, go right ahead, but you won't silence those who have an issue with you.

One of my ex's was put into a conversion therapy program because of his parents. Guess who funds shit like that? Real world consequences.

No, I don't want to excuse anything and I don't want to silent anyone but I do find it unnecessary to shame people for eating somewhere because of your stance on the matter.
 

sangreal

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  • The abuse and maiming of miners in Indonesia (that's how Coca-Cola gets its cheap tin)
  • Global warming and the general destruction of our environment (much of the energy expended in production could come from renewables, but that'd cost more money so it doesn't)
  • The perpetuation of the obesity crisis (Coke spends millions to find new ways to shout at or subconsciously imply to the American public that they should be drinking Coke and not literally anything else)
  • The poisoning of American kids' bodies (junk food brands pay public schools millions to allow the sale of their products in cafeterias)
  • The Israeli far right (The Coca-Cola Company donated money to Im Tirtzu because ????)
  • The poisoning of groundwater in India (I don't even know how exactly this fucking happens, but one of their factories just happened to have a bunch of sludge containing cadmium, chromium, and lead on hand, so they dumped it all into the water because why not?)
  • The total capture of water supplies in small Mexican towns (funny thing, the people living in some of these towns were left with so little water that they had buy bottled water... from Coca-Cola)
  • The intractability of all of the above (lobbying governments all over the world is cheaper than dealing with the reforms or regulations they might enact)
  • Every awful thing Coca-Cola executives ever donated to or supported through their own purchases

These are all indirect and you can go down that rabbit hole with anything. CFA was directly spending corporate profits on their cause. It's not about what their executives/franchisee/vendors did. The company itself is dedicated to furthering their christian mission. It's literally the company's mission statement

Corporate purpose
"To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us and to have a positive influence on all who come into contact with Chick-fil-A."
 
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No, I don't want to excuse anything and I don't want to silent anyone but I do find it unnecessary to shame people for eating somewhere because of your stance on the matter.

I think some of you can handle being shamed for eating chicken with a side of homophobia. But you clearly have an issue with being called out on it, I'm not to blame for that. That's all on you and the other fine allies in this thread who eat at CFA.