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Chicago Boystown gay bar under fire after Rap music ban
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Hulk Hogan is such a little bitchHave you seen their new dress code?
They make it seem like where the hood at was playing on repeat for the last year.
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A lot of people in the white gay community like to cloak themselves in the appearance of diversity while absolving themselves of racism.
Hahaha yeah and I keep forgetting it says that in the title too, I need to sleep longer tonight than I have been I guess, my mind is starting to go
As I found my place in the LGBT community my dismay when I found this out was twofold: that racism is everywhere, including in marginalized communities, and my disappointment in myself that I had to "find this out" in the first place.
While simultaneously putting "no blacks, just a preference!" on their Grindr profiles.
Genre's a wide brush tho; I can play techno that's going to be all EDM kids tripping or play techno where all black and goth is the dress code.
Its why its a bullshit ban; 90's hip-hop night will be a complete 180 from a Southern themed set. Saying don't play rap music is a big racial signifier.
And what does beach attire mean?Have you seen their new dress code?
*writes, 'You're allowed to play only 1 rap song per night to appease the blacks.' on the check to DJs*
lol at 'working to heal the pain'
They went so far as to hire extra security at the DJ booth for this so they must have known this was going to be unpopular. Overall shitty behavior, yet not surprising in the least.
The number and status of people coming out the woodworks to air out the bars long history of discriminatory practices is insane. The situation is definitely becoming "magmatic". Despite their PR'ed up response today, I really feel like the damage is done and people are going to move on. there have been two times since i've been going to Boystown when a similar situation occurred and people started going elsewhere. It was not pretty, it seemed to spread to other establishments and became more general boycott of the neighborhood. Though I'm hoping for the best as we enter pride.
Racism is arguably worse in the LGBTQ+ especially when dating or on Grindr. It's awful, I've seen so many profiles with the phrase no blacks on there it's not even funny. Don't even get me started on bars, ugh.
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What a way to start Pride off. Also the rainbow sidewalk thing comes off as extremely white gay pride as well. I know there was a lot of backlash from white gays when they tried to add black and brown to the flag. They have only one that has the trans colors too, which is bs. Excluding that from the sidewalk displays just left a bad taste in my mouth of an already problematic community. Boystown continues to be trash.
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Except for the rap music played in gay/LGBTQ friendly bars. Or most rap in general.
Hell, this kind of ban immediately prevents that damn Wobble song from being played, and that shit has been banging in damn near every gay bar or gay majority party I've ever been to.
Banning specific artists or specific songs, sure, but a whole ass genre? Doesn't make any goddamn sense.
Imagine coming into a thread and implicitly siding with anti-black rhetoric.
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I'm not surprised. Era has a lot of diet racists.
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I'm thinking about it now, and I realize that despite living in the Deep South, I've *never* seen a profile on Tinder or OK Cupid that said "No blacks" . Like, I can't even imagine. It's absurd that minorities still find a way to oppress other minorities. :/
Anyway, this rap music ban is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Sketch, and it's good they were called on it.
A bit off topic but reading this topic made me curious.
Im a caucasian gay and live in Japan and find myself almost exclusively attracted to asians. like literally 95%+ . I cant really see myself being interested in any other race.
Does that alone make me racist or does require more open and proactive rejection of other races like you see on Grindr?
Im a caucasian gay and live in Japan and find myself almost exclusively attracted to asians. like literally 95%+ . I cant really see myself being interested in any other race.
Does that alone make me racist or does require more open and proactive rejection of other races like you see on Grindr?
Transphobia and racism are probably the first two things I think of when it comes to issues in many gay communities, even in more "progressive" spaces. It's gross and it's alienating.
White gay men are just as racist and anti black (if not more!) as their straight counterparts. shock!
this is not the topic for this but it makes you weird and/or sheltered
User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns Surrounding Racism and a History of Dismissive Behavior
This was honestly unexpected.
If you believe hip-hop's reputation as anti-LGBT and/or misogynistic is unearned, then why not respond with a counter point? If I'm a racist for criticizing a genre of music, then you should call me out with why. Passive aggressively including me in an imaginary era cabal of "diet" racists without making any real points is just weak.
Because we're not required to jump through hoops for your racist ass.
I don't need to belabor on such an obvious point that siding with exclusion of a particular clientele base by proxy of racially loaded qualifiers is suspect at WORST.
Your attempt at diversion to generalized reputation is frankly of little relevance to the real discrimination at play here.
There's certainly anti-LGBT artists in the hip hop/rap genre. Much like there are in every other genre. Why not just say "no songs with anti-LGBT lyrics" instead of banning only rap music? When you combine that with the history of racism in the white gay community it paints a suspect picture at best for Progress Bar's motive for the ban.
There's plenty of LGBT positive rap/hip hop artists that deserve to get their music played.
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It's pretty shameful right now. There was a big veil lifted when apps became popular. So much exposure to a darker side.
Weirdly racist because the community is so open about it. "Love all people. Just not what I'm into sorry."
Call out artists, not genres.
The rap genre is not a sapient being. It doesn't have thoughts or biases. Lots of rap is homophobic, especially older rap, but you can't paint the entire genre with that same brush.
Just ban homophobic or offensive music of any genre.
This is until they want to fetishize black bodies. The number of times I've been asked to see or play with my BBC (mind you they have no clue what I'm working with because I never showed them) from people with stuff like that in their profiles is pretty telling. White gay culture is toxic and extremely exclusive in my experiences.
In Bethesda, Maryland there was a bar that had a popular $1 beer night on Thursday nights. The place would always be packed and was a good time on a Thursday night. Then they implemented a rule where people from certain neighborhoods had to pay a $10 cover. They used drivers licenses to determine this.
I asked the bouncer which neighborhoods were permitted to enter without a cover, and he named the immediate downtown area around the bar (predominately White), the DC side of Takoma (also white), and various neighborhoods west of the Anacostia (also white). My neighborhood in downtown Silver Spring, which was closer to the bar than any of the others and had a large black and Latino population, had to pay a cover. The intent was clear. And the effects were visible when you looked on the dance floor, which was visible from the street. What was usually a large diverse crowd dancing, was just a handful of white people milling about.
I never went back to the place. It also closed a couple of years back.
Yeah brown folks get a place hot and popping then suddenly they not welcome anymore.
I could go on about the exclusivity thing but I don't want to derail. But yeah, it's a virus. White people (full disclosure, me) break even white people down by aesthetic group. The "most woofed" on scruff all look like the same person.
Grindr is fucking awful. I have been seeing so many men putting "I have a dick" to snarky comments to put down transgender users in the pronouns section. And it's super common.
That is the most racist MoCo shit I've heard since those kids at Churchill got caught trading N word passes.
There are other genres of music that have reputation of being bigoted. Not all hip hop is bigoted. So if this ban was based on combating bigotry (to be clear a reason hasn't even been given yet other than the PR response of switching up music), it's hypocritical and ended up being bigoted in itself.
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You're going to deny diet racism on Era? Ok man, whatever you say. Bye.
Let's not forget you came into this thread saying the bar was entitled to take this stance, and it's cut and dry their stance is racist. They doubled down and then walked back because they're going to lose business. The community in Chicago has responded to that, not by playing whataboutism or devils advocate, but by confronting racism and policies that exclude people.
So this is all in you and your dumb initial post.
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That's such obvious racist bullshit. Always horrifying how marginalised groups still aren't immune from being racist, sexist and so on.
I wonder what actually prompted this (sorry if I missed it, I skimmed the thread). Like, new management, or.. Idk. What made the racists in charge decide to pull this shit now?
Side note: Those pictures posted forbid "plain white T-shirts" in those establishments. Can anyone explain why? Since a plain black/red/blue... T-shirt seems to be fine.
I wonder what actually prompted this (sorry if I missed it, I skimmed the thread). Like, new management, or.. Idk. What made the racists in charge decide to pull this shit now?
Side note: Those pictures posted forbid "plain white T-shirts" in those establishments. Can anyone explain why? Since a plain black/red/blue... T-shirt seems to be fine.
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This weekend there was some violence at the bar but it wasn't POC, turns out it was some white dude literally punching glass. They're banning aggressive music in response, or how they put it, anything played on WGCI, which is a racist comment. That's our local Urban station. It was a snide snark that people like the GOP or Trump would say.