Not trying to do that at all. Just expressing guilt. I'm emotional, fuckIt's pretty amazing that you are already painting yourself as the victim in the topic of the thread.
Not trying to do that at all. Just expressing guilt. I'm emotional, fuckIt's pretty amazing that you are already painting yourself as the victim in the topic of the thread.
Pretty much this. You were in too much of an "in-between" spot where boundaries weren't clear and it fucked you up.Maybe monogamy just ain't for you.
Thing is, you guys weren't actually together. You should have set some boundaries and ground rules to begin with, that was your first mistake.
Your second mistake was thinking with your dick.
But your first mistake was still carrying on like this while not in the confines of a relationship or having any ground rules, but still having the expectations on each other. If you were serious about wanting to marry her, you, uh, should probably have actually been in a steady relationship with her first.
But having sex with someone else is still on you. Do better.
Correction: You need to have self control IF the person you want to marry wants sex to be exclusively between you and them.
Yea, and OP made it pretty clear this was that situation, which is overwhelmingly the norm.Correction: You need to have self control IF the person you want to marry wants sex to be exclusively between you and them.
I hear you but does jacking off really overcome the real thing? Lol
Not trying to do that at all. Just expressing guilt. I'm emotional, fuck
He would only NOT be an asshole, just socially challenged, if he was honest with her that he was having an old lady friend over for sex. He lied to her and said that he was going to the movies with his brother-in-law, seemingly because he knew she wouldn't like it and that it would hurt her feelings.Wasn't planning on having her see him hooking up with someone else
The huge, huge majority here haven't cheated...and that goes beyond "making a mistake" to most people. Especially cheating multiple times. There's a difference between getting in an accident or being late on a bill to cheating.Tux_ I'm not gonna pile on since every one else is already doing it, but I can say that I've been in a similar position as you and so I can kind of relate. The feeling of being walked in is a combination of awkward embarrassment and shame that is just hard to explain or even cope with.
I'll probably get shit on by era too and possibly deservedly so (though I disagree), but I'll spoiler it here just to not take too much attention hopefully from you Tux.
For me I had a fwb relationship with a girl in another city, that I would hook up with on business trips. I didn't have a gf and she was potentially a gf, as in we had talked about it potentially happening if we lived in same city someday. At this time I had quite a few fwb relationships in various cities because I was always on business trips so it was good to have company when I was traveling. My lifestyle wasn't suited for a gf.
Anyway she eventually moved to my city, not for me explicitly but it was clear that that was one of her reasons. She stayed with me a few days while she was looking for her own apartment to move in to, so I gave her a key to the place. I went on a business trip and let her stay at my place while I was gone even. Things were good but we were still clearly not an item and that was very clear to her. She didn't want to know about other girls I was hooking up with, but she knew I had others. Long story short I came back from my business trip and she had found an apartment to move in, but still had to return my key. I had another girl that I liked to hook up with in my town and she came over for some fun the day I returned. I told the first girl, the one with the key that I was busy, and I'd see her to get the key another time. I put my phone away and got to banging... little did I know that the girl messaged me and said "oh i'm in your neighborhood I'll just come drop off the key at your place since I'm here."
Bad idea. Mid coitus I hear my front door opening... we hide under the sheets but lol of course that isn't gonna work. Especially cuz there were my shoes and the girls shoes right there inside the front door (we aren't animals, we wear slippers inside).
There was no confrontation. The girl just walked into the bedroom. Said something like "I know you are under there," and I crawled out and said "sorry".
I realize I shouldn't have lied to her about being busy or whatever, but I don't think I was wrong for much else in the situation. I'm sure I'm scum according to Era though lol.
Anyway the point is, getting caught sucks. It's such a unique feeling, almost impossible to describe. Nothing else in my life that I can remember felt quite like that. So in that sense I feel bad for you OP. For cheating I'm less sympathetic, but not gonna call you a POS or anything. Some people act like they are saints in here and they've never done anything wrong.
Have you guys never been in the grey area with someone before? There were no "rules" and he didn't intentionally hurt her. Wasn't planning on having her see him hooking up with someone else
He's not an asshole.... Just lacks self control when it comes to sex
The huge, huge majority here haven't cheated...and that goes beyond "making a mistake" to most people. Especially cheating multiple times.
Yep. No idea what this "hey don't bash op" is all about. It's right, and it's probably the most helpful thing he'll get from this thread apart from advice on seeking therapy if his sexual addiction is actually an addiction and not douchebaggery.
Too broad of a statement.
Cheating isn't just "x thing wrong though". It's not a car accident or even like stealing a bottle of coke or something. You can potentially ruin lives by cheating.Maybe I missed it but didn't he cheat once? The other times they were on a break.
Even still, yea I get that it's fucked up and he doesn't deserve much or any sympathy for his plight, but people acting holier than thou because they haven't done "x thing wrong" while almost assuredly they've done y and z things wrong before is kind of stupid imo.
The best he can do is learn and grow and change. And while shaming him can def help, there are also probably constructive ways to help too.
Yeah I don't get this story at all.I don't understand. So you weren't together officially (not married, not engaged, not even dating, even though it ""felt"" like it), had on and off sex with each other once in a while, she talked/reconnected with her ex for a while, you fucked some hookers, but... you both knew that at the end of the day, you'd be together.
Maybe I'm stupid, but nowhere in your wall of text do I read you two were an "official" thing. You both wanted to be a thing, but it didn't happen yet. How is that cheating then? And why would she react the way she did when she was okay with you having sex with hookers, but somehow she's not okay with you hooking up with this past fling?
I have a feeling you're not telling us something.
Hit the gym..?This is my advice:
Get away from her, move on, improve yourself.
How is saying "cheating isn't that bad, it's just a mistake" acceptable?Okay, what is up with some of these vindictive posts in this thread?
OP knows he fucked up majorly, no need to call him a piece of shit, tell him to fuck off or that he should be miserable... how is that acceptable on Era?
Just take most of the advice and block out the insults. As long as you get the advice and take it to heart and become a better person then all that stuff doesn't matter. You can still change from this so work on changing.The huge, huge majority here haven't cheated...and that goes beyond "making a mistake" to most people. Especially cheating multiple times.
Idk, this thread's lame not due to the OP but people attacking him. OP knows he messed up, knows he's got issues, knows he needs to improve but people still feel the need to attack dude. That's more childish than OP.Okay, what is up with some of these vindictive posts in this thread?
OP knows he fucked up majorly, no need to call him a piece of shit, tell him to fuck off or that he should be miserable... how is that acceptable on Era?
Okay, what is up with some of these vindictive posts in this thread?
OP knows he fucked up majorly, no need to call him a piece of shit, tell him to fuck off or that he should be miserable... how is that acceptable on Era?
How is saying "cheating isn't that bad, it's just a mistake" acceptable?
No one has said cheat isn't bad. Cheating IS bad.How is saying "cheating isn't that bad, it's just a mistake" acceptable?
Basically my thoughts, I haven't been here for long but I've noticed a lot of vindictive bloodthirstiness in a lot of discussions that makes me a little sad. Cheating is bad. No one is saying it isn't. It's cruel, extremely selfish and potentially permanently mentally damaging. But if we wished eternal misery on every person that's ever cheated or broke someone's heart the world would be fucked. OP fucked up, OP knows he fucked up, OP isn't trying to excuse his way out of the situation nor from what I could see elicit sympathy. OP wanted advice, he got some that I hope he will take to heart. Attacking him won't fix a fucking thing, it won't make OP a better person and it won't make society better as a whole, it's just petty vengeance to give yourself a justice boner while you tear someone down.Just take most of the advice and block out the insults. As long as you get the advice and take it to heart and become a better person then all that stuff doesn't matter. You can still change from this so work on changing.
And no you're not a POS for this, you've got issues and need to improve.
Idk, this thread's lame not due to the OP but people attacking him. OP knows he messed up, knows he's got issues, knows he needs to improve but people still feel the need to attack dude. That's more childish than OP.
People on this forum are something else.
Thanks, I'll go drive home now. She's finally asleep and no more crying. Needed to hear the hard truth tonight. I'm going to invest in some therapy because I think I need it.
I'm addicted to sex.
Y'all are rough as hell but it's much needed.
Multiple people said Op "just made a mistake".Same. OP probably realizes he fucked up, no need to be EXCESSIVELY rude.
Who said that ?
How is saying "cheating isn't that bad, it's just a mistake" acceptable?
Most people here aren't wishing that, but don't want OP to ever go near that girl again, or any until he matures and gets a lot of help. A looooot.No one has said cheat isn't bad. Cheating IS bad.
Basically my thoughts, I haven't been here for long but I've noticed a lot of vindictive bloodthirstiness in a lot of discussions that makes me a little sad. Cheating is bad. No one is saying it isn't. It's cruel, extremely selfish and potentially permanently mentally damaging. But if we wished eternal misery on every person that's ever cheated or broke someone's heart the world would be fucked. OP fucked up, OP knows he fucked up, OP isn't trying to excuse his way out of the situation nor from what I could see elicit sympathy. OP wanted advice, he got some that I hope he will take to heart. Attacking him won't fix a fucking thing, it won't make OP a better person and it won't make society better as a whole, it's just petty vengeance to give yourself a justice boner while you tear someone down.
Making a mistake inherently means you've done something wrong, this seems like semantics.