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ZackieChan

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Oct 27, 2017
8,056
Maybe monogamy just ain't for you.

Thing is, you guys weren't actually together. You should have set some boundaries and ground rules to begin with, that was your first mistake.

Your second mistake was thinking with your dick.

But your first mistake was still carrying on like this while not in the confines of a relationship or having any ground rules, but still having the expectations on each other. If you were serious about wanting to marry her, you, uh, should probably have actually been in a steady relationship with her first.

But having sex with someone else is still on you. Do better.
Pretty much this. You were in too much of an "in-between" spot where boundaries weren't clear and it fucked you up.
 

Jill Sandwich

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,950
Your relationship with her didn't sound compatible with marriage, but congrats on breaking someone's heart. Learn from this.
 

greepoman

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,967
Maybe you just need someone who's on the same level as you sexually at this point in your life? Mismatch in sex drives is always a recipe for disaster. Just accept who you are at the moment and look for someone who is actually compatible with that.

You'll probably change naturally over time but it's not necessarily a good thing to try to force it right now if you're not in that place.
 

Vern

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,097
Tux_ I'm not gonna pile on since every one else is already doing it, but I can say that I've been in a similar position as you and so I can kind of relate. The feeling of being walked in is a combination of awkward embarrassment and shame that is just hard to explain or even cope with.

I'll probably get shit on by era too and possibly deservedly so (though I disagree), but I'll spoiler it here just to not take too much attention hopefully from you Tux.

For me I had a fwb relationship with a girl in another city, that I would hook up with on business trips. I didn't have a gf and she was potentially a gf, as in we had talked about it potentially happening if we lived in same city someday. At this time I had quite a few fwb relationships in various cities because I was always on business trips so it was good to have company when I was traveling. My lifestyle wasn't suited for a gf.

Anyway she eventually moved to my city, not for me explicitly but it was clear that that was one of her reasons. She stayed with me a few days while she was looking for her own apartment to move in to, so I gave her a key to the place. I went on a business trip and let her stay at my place while I was gone even. Things were good but we were still clearly not an item and that was very clear to her. She didn't want to know about other girls I was hooking up with, but she knew I had others. Long story short I came back from my business trip and she had found an apartment to move in, but still had to return my key. I had another girl that I liked to hook up with in my town and she came over for some fun the day I returned. I told the first girl, the one with the key that I was busy, and I'd see her to get the key another time. I put my phone away and got to banging... little did I know that the girl messaged me and said "oh i'm in your neighborhood I'll just come drop off the key at your place since I'm here."

Bad idea. Mid coitus I hear my front door opening... we hide under the sheets but lol of course that isn't gonna work. Especially cuz there were my shoes and the girls shoes right there inside the front door (we aren't animals, we wear slippers inside).

There was no confrontation. The girl just walked into the bedroom. Said something like "I know you are under there," and I crawled out and said "sorry".
I realize I shouldn't have lied to her about being busy or whatever, but I don't think I was wrong for much else in the situation. I'm sure I'm scum according to Era though lol.

Anyway the point is, getting caught sucks. It's such a unique feeling, almost impossible to describe. Nothing else in my life that I can remember felt quite like that. So in that sense I feel bad for you OP. For cheating I'm less sympathetic, but not gonna call you a POS or anything. Some people act like they are saints in here and they've never done anything wrong.
 

Revenger

Member
Oct 28, 2017
66
User Banned (3 Days): Sexist Commentary
It sucks but its going to keep happening if you keep thinking with your dick...
Either fuck so many hoes that you get it out of your system and then tryhard with your girl, or just dont try at all...not worth the pain you cause to both her and yourself....(or just rub one out when youre horny)...

Hopefully you learnt your lesson..?
 

P-Tux7

Member
Mar 11, 2019
1,344
Wasn't planning on having her see him hooking up with someone else
He would only NOT be an asshole, just socially challenged, if he was honest with her that he was having an old lady friend over for sex. He lied to her and said that he was going to the movies with his brother-in-law, seemingly because he knew she wouldn't like it and that it would hurt her feelings.
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
59,714
Tux_ I'm not gonna pile on since every one else is already doing it, but I can say that I've been in a similar position as you and so I can kind of relate. The feeling of being walked in is a combination of awkward embarrassment and shame that is just hard to explain or even cope with.

I'll probably get shit on by era too and possibly deservedly so (though I disagree), but I'll spoiler it here just to not take too much attention hopefully from you Tux.

For me I had a fwb relationship with a girl in another city, that I would hook up with on business trips. I didn't have a gf and she was potentially a gf, as in we had talked about it potentially happening if we lived in same city someday. At this time I had quite a few fwb relationships in various cities because I was always on business trips so it was good to have company when I was traveling. My lifestyle wasn't suited for a gf.

Anyway she eventually moved to my city, not for me explicitly but it was clear that that was one of her reasons. She stayed with me a few days while she was looking for her own apartment to move in to, so I gave her a key to the place. I went on a business trip and let her stay at my place while I was gone even. Things were good but we were still clearly not an item and that was very clear to her. She didn't want to know about other girls I was hooking up with, but she knew I had others. Long story short I came back from my business trip and she had found an apartment to move in, but still had to return my key. I had another girl that I liked to hook up with in my town and she came over for some fun the day I returned. I told the first girl, the one with the key that I was busy, and I'd see her to get the key another time. I put my phone away and got to banging... little did I know that the girl messaged me and said "oh i'm in your neighborhood I'll just come drop off the key at your place since I'm here."

Bad idea. Mid coitus I hear my front door opening... we hide under the sheets but lol of course that isn't gonna work. Especially cuz there were my shoes and the girls shoes right there inside the front door (we aren't animals, we wear slippers inside).

There was no confrontation. The girl just walked into the bedroom. Said something like "I know you are under there," and I crawled out and said "sorry".
I realize I shouldn't have lied to her about being busy or whatever, but I don't think I was wrong for much else in the situation. I'm sure I'm scum according to Era though lol.

Anyway the point is, getting caught sucks. It's such a unique feeling, almost impossible to describe. Nothing else in my life that I can remember felt quite like that. So in that sense I feel bad for you OP. For cheating I'm less sympathetic, but not gonna call you a POS or anything. Some people act like they are saints in here and they've never done anything wrong.
The huge, huge majority here haven't cheated...and that goes beyond "making a mistake" to most people. Especially cheating multiple times. There's a difference between getting in an accident or being late on a bill to cheating.
 

excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
73,330
Have you guys never been in the grey area with someone before? There were no "rules" and he didn't intentionally hurt her. Wasn't planning on having her see him hooking up with someone else

He's not an asshole.... Just lacks self control when it comes to sex

He's talking about loving her and marrying her dude
 

Samban

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
413
This fucking idiot was going to get married. What did you hope to accomplish with this thread OP?
 

Vern

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,097
The huge, huge majority here haven't cheated...and that goes beyond "making a mistake" to most people. Especially cheating multiple times.

Maybe I missed it but didn't he cheat once? The other times they were on a break.

Even still, yea I get that it's fucked up and he doesn't deserve much or any sympathy for his plight, but people acting holier than thou because they haven't done "x thing wrong" while almost assuredly they've done y and z things wrong before is kind of stupid imo.

The best he can do is learn and grow and change. And while shaming him can def help, there are also probably constructive ways to help too.
 

Annatar86

Banned
Jan 16, 2018
356
I show sympathy to the girl for having to be hurt like that.
Yep. No idea what this "hey don't bash op" is all about. It's right, and it's probably the most helpful thing he'll get from this thread apart from advice on seeking therapy if his sexual addiction is actually an addiction and not douchebaggery.

The sympathy/empathy should be on the girl.
 
Oct 27, 2017
39,148
I am going to be blunt here, you don't love her.

If you truely lived her you wouldn't think about sex as much. Not as much to make you cheat that is. A fap or two would have helped you when you get horny. She deserves better so let her be.
 

FreeMufasa

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,375
You ain't a bad guy, like some here would like you to believe. You just fucked up. Give it some time, try to salvage it. If she ain't having it then it's time to move on
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
59,714
Maybe I missed it but didn't he cheat once? The other times they were on a break.

Even still, yea I get that it's fucked up and he doesn't deserve much or any sympathy for his plight, but people acting holier than thou because they haven't done "x thing wrong" while almost assuredly they've done y and z things wrong before is kind of stupid imo.

The best he can do is learn and grow and change. And while shaming him can def help, there are also probably constructive ways to help too.
Cheating isn't just "x thing wrong though". It's not a car accident or even like stealing a bottle of coke or something. You can potentially ruin lives by cheating.
 
Oct 30, 2017
5,495
I don't understand. So you weren't together officially (not married, not engaged, not even dating, even though it ""felt"" like it), had on and off sex with each other once in a while, she talked/reconnected with her ex for a while, you fucked some hookers, but... you both knew that at the end of the day, you'd be together.

Maybe I'm stupid, but nowhere in your wall of text do I read you two were an "official" thing. You both wanted to be a thing, but it didn't happen yet. How is that cheating then? And why would she react the way she did when she was okay with you having sex with hookers, but somehow she's not okay with you hooking up with this past fling?

I have a feeling you're not telling us something.
Yeah I don't get this story at all.
You dated once, you bang sometimes now, she's seeing other people while you fuck hookers, but you're going to marry and were meant to be together?
Nah, bro. Not buying any of this. You're telling yourself a story that doesn't reflect reality.
This shit is stupid.
 

Drencrom

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,646
SWE
Okay, what is up with some of these vindictive posts in this thread?

OP knows he fucked up majorly, no need to call him a piece of shit, tell him to fuck off or that he should be miserable... how is that acceptable on Era?
 

Samuel

Member
Oct 27, 2017
219
It sounds like you're trying to give yourself an out by describing your on and off relationship and how you both knew you had to "work on some things" implying she knew you were trouble.

Bottom line is: if you guys were working toward something, you should have respected that and stopped seeing other women, paid or not.

But hindsight is 20/20.

Do whatever you want, but leave her alone.
 

Deleted member 11182

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Oct 27, 2017
674
I think that people who truly love each other and have an otherwise healthy relationship should be willing to forgive infrequent infidelity. That's the only realistic way to stay with someone forever.
 

Ayato_Kanzaki

Member
Nov 22, 2017
1,481
OP, you should just leave her alone, and learn from this. Relationships need trust as a foundation, and now that it's gone, it's just not coming back, ever.
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
59,714
Okay, what is up with some of these vindictive posts in this thread?

OP knows he fucked up majorly, no need to call him a piece of shit, tell him to fuck off or that he should be miserable... how is that acceptable on Era?
How is saying "cheating isn't that bad, it's just a mistake" acceptable?
 

Cordy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,372
The huge, huge majority here haven't cheated...and that goes beyond "making a mistake" to most people. Especially cheating multiple times.
Just take most of the advice and block out the insults. As long as you get the advice and take it to heart and become a better person then all that stuff doesn't matter. You can still change from this so work on changing.

And no you're not a POS for this, you've got issues and need to improve. Actually if I were you I'd ask a mod to lock this thread because you've got enough advice from people.
Okay, what is up with some of these vindictive posts in this thread?

OP knows he fucked up majorly, no need to call him a piece of shit, tell him to fuck off or that he should be miserable... how is that acceptable on Era?
Idk, this thread's lame not due to the OP but people attacking him. OP knows he messed up, knows he's got issues, knows he needs to improve but people still feel the need to attack dude. That's more childish than OP.

People on this forum are something else.
 

Grahf

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,665
Okay, what is up with some of these vindictive posts in this thread?

OP knows he fucked up majorly, no need to call him a piece of shit, tell him to fuck off or that he should be miserable... how is that acceptable on Era?

Same. OP probably realizes he fucked up, no need to be EXCESSIVELY rude.

How is saying "cheating isn't that bad, it's just a mistake" acceptable?

Who said that ?
 

ShadowAUS

Member
Feb 20, 2019
2,117
Australia
How is saying "cheating isn't that bad, it's just a mistake" acceptable?
No one has said cheat isn't bad. Cheating IS bad.
Just take most of the advice and block out the insults. As long as you get the advice and take it to heart and become a better person then all that stuff doesn't matter. You can still change from this so work on changing.

And no you're not a POS for this, you've got issues and need to improve.

Idk, this thread's lame not due to the OP but people attacking him. OP knows he messed up, knows he's got issues, knows he needs to improve but people still feel the need to attack dude. That's more childish than OP.

People on this forum are something else.
Basically my thoughts, I haven't been here for long but I've noticed a lot of vindictive bloodthirstiness in a lot of discussions that makes me a little sad. Cheating is bad. No one is saying it isn't. It's cruel, extremely selfish and potentially permanently mentally damaging. But if we wished eternal misery on every person that's ever cheated or broke someone's heart the world would be fucked. OP fucked up, OP knows he fucked up, OP isn't trying to excuse his way out of the situation nor from what I could see elicit sympathy. OP wanted advice, he got some that I hope he will take to heart. Attacking him won't fix a fucking thing, it won't make OP a better person and it won't make society better as a whole, it's just petty vengeance to give yourself a justice boner while you tear someone down.
 

Deleted member 39450

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Feb 3, 2018
476
Boston, MA
Thanks, I'll go drive home now. She's finally asleep and no more crying. Needed to hear the hard truth tonight. I'm going to invest in some therapy because I think I need it.

I'm addicted to sex.
Y'all are rough as hell but it's much needed.

Sex addiction is often just a catch-all excuse for what is really just selfishness. Think on that.
 

PJV3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
It doesn't seem that bad to me, she was alright with the situation until the reality of it hit her in the face.

Be clear with each other about what you want and expect going forward.
 

ClickyCal'

Member
Oct 25, 2017
59,714
No one has said cheat isn't bad. Cheating IS bad.

Basically my thoughts, I haven't been here for long but I've noticed a lot of vindictive bloodthirstiness in a lot of discussions that makes me a little sad. Cheating is bad. No one is saying it isn't. It's cruel, extremely selfish and potentially permanently mentally damaging. But if we wished eternal misery on every person that's ever cheated or broke someone's heart the world would be fucked. OP fucked up, OP knows he fucked up, OP isn't trying to excuse his way out of the situation nor from what I could see elicit sympathy. OP wanted advice, he got some that I hope he will take to heart. Attacking him won't fix a fucking thing, it won't make OP a better person and it won't make society better as a whole, it's just petty vengeance to give yourself a justice boner while you tear someone down.
Most people here aren't wishing that, but don't want OP to ever go near that girl again, or any until he matures and gets a lot of help. A looooot.
 

FUME5

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,421
You should have played it straight, since you weren't in a commited relationship you can see who you want.
 
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