Change one thing about The Rise of Skywalker to improve the film

[Aiii]

Take out everything between the Lucasarts logo at the start and the end credits.

There's no one single issue with this movie. It does next to nothing right and it starts with the very concept and title of the movie. So changing just one thing means nothing in terms of "improving" the film.

 

[CloudWolf]

If you remove Palpatine, you basically have to rewrite the entire movie, so that's what I'm going with since the entire movie would need to be redone to make it worthwhile.

 

[Skade]

As many have said, keep Trevorrow's script. That's "one" change that could fix it.

Otherwise : no Palpatine. Because without him, we'd have kept Kylo as the vilain, so no stupid face turn nor weird kiss. And we also would have avoided the stupid (and useless) "Indiana Jones chase the artifact" plot. Or at least, it could have been an artifact that made sense. Not a weird dagger made to look like the Death Star wreck to find a beacon to Palpy. It could have been a true "treasure" chase to find a real jedi/sith relic.

 

[Deleted member 2809]

For me, simply not making Rey a decendant of Palpatine improves the movie quite a bit.

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this is it

 

[Black_Stride]

No Palpatine.
Snoke is Plageius.
Kylo gets no redemption.

I know thats a few things but lets just say one leads to the others.

 

[Joseph Joestar]

Take the movie and throw it into a trashcan.

 

[Dan Thunder]

Kept on Rian Johnson (I know it was his choice not to do Ep9). Regardless of whether you liked TLJ at least there would have been continuity between the two films and not this weird attempt to rewrite a lot of the groundwork in the middle film.

 

[DetectiveKenobi]

More Babu Frik.

 

[Metal Gear?!]

 

[RestEerie]

Change the plot of the entire new trilogy to be just a jedi dream of luke skywalker. it's all a dream and never happened.

 

[Ushojax]

I'm probably weird but having watched the entire series from start to finish in a row last week, Rey being a descendant of Palpatine is the one thing that makes sense. There's no other reason safe for being a secret twin of Kylo, that she is that powerful out of the gate. Palpatine himself didn't need to be there, but Rey definitely needed to have some powerful blood. Her being a nobody would be a complete destruction of the PT and OT.

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I couldn't disagree with that more. We didn't need a paternal reason for her to be strong with the Force just like we didn't need one for Obi-Wan, Dooku, Yoda etc.

What they did in TROS is like an 8th Harry Potter Book retconning Hermione Granger's backstory to make her Merlin's great-niece instead just being a child of Muggles.

 

[APOEERA]

Have Finn (and even Poe) realize their Force sensitivity and help Rey in the final battle.

I would keep the scene where Kylo Ren sees his father but maybe the Sith is too strong for him. He kills Palpatine and absorbs his power somehow only to be killed by Rey.

I would have the ending be Rey start a new Jedi Academy with Finn, Rose, Poe and Janna while the Force ghosts of Luke, Leia and Kylo look on.

More than three, sorry.

 

[Edge]

Making 2 films out of the material.

 

[Praetorpwj]

The new Star Destroyers don't have Death Star weapons. They actually serve as conductors for Sith lightning to draw in and destroy the New Empire's enemies.

This would then hark back to similar plotting in Jedi (Its a trap etc).

 

[zolee]

add time travel so it's literally just as shit as Endgame

 

[GuEiMiRrIRoW]

I would change the director.

 

[chromefrog]

if it was actually a sequel to The Last Jedi but without any prequel-esq Casino chase shit and better writing, it might have been good. as it stands, this movie is the second worst Star Wars I reckon.

 

[Jinroh]

Get rid of everything related to the dagger.

 

[Dr. Mario]

I couldn't disagree with that more. We didn't need a paternal reason for her to be strong with the Force just like we didn't need one for Obi-Wan, Dooku, Yoda etc.

What they did in TROS is like an 8th Harry Potter Book retconning Hermione Granger's backstory to make her Merlin's great-niece instead just being a child of Muggles.

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Harry Potter is not part of the Star Wars universe.
In the Star Wars (movie) universe, the number of midichlorians in your blood determine your force capabilities, and this is absolutely hereditary. From the immaculate conception of Anakin to his children that needed to be hidden away because they would pose a threat. "The Force is strong in my family", "the powerful Skywalker bloodline", "that boy is our last hope. -no there is another".

Disney wanted to introduce new force sensitive people so they could continue the merchandise sales, which is fine whatever, but Rey to be a nobody immediately more powerful than the direct descendant of Anakin Skywalker and all the midichlorians he should have in his blood (which we know were enough to best Luke Skywalker), you'd have to also believe the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan, Yoda and Luke were complete jobbers with the Force, and most of the plight in ESB and ROTJ to be rendered functionally meaningless.

 

[myojinsoga]

Written and Directed by Rian Johnson.

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I'd go with this. I'm not a fan of TLJ, but what the saga needed in the final stretch, more than any single plot-tweak, was coherence. Johnson would have made a reasonably smart film, I'm in no doubt.

 

[CampFreddie]

If you remove Palpatine, you basically have to rewrite the entire movie, so that's what I'm going with since the entire movie would need to be redone to make it worthwhile.

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Yep.

I would make a large part of the movie about Finn and Rose rallying the galaxy to fight the First Order, following through on Finn/Rose theme from TLJ.
Lando (and Leia) should help Finn and Rose, but shouldn't be some shitty Deus Ex "here come the cavalry" at the end. Show them rallying the republic fleet instead of chasing after meaningless daggers, maps and holochrons.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Minor adjustments, doesn't save the film but would help what was there a lot.

-The Sith "audience" should have been fuelling Palpatine's ridiculous lightning, Force Ghosts show up an block it

-Ben doesn't die

- it wasn't 100% reactionary to TLJ

- remove the dagger BS

- Finn & Rose not so secondary and backgrounded

 

[julia crawford]

Make it 4:3

 

[MikeProtagonist]

No Palpatine.
Chewie actually dies.
C-3PO is actually factory reset.
Kylo stays down or isn't thrown down a hole to begin with.

Among its many flaws, the faked deaths are so horribly overdone. Oh no he died nevermind he's fine, over and over again.

 

[endlessflood]

I much preferred TROS to TLJ. In fact the weakest parts of TROS for me were when they were having to undo stuff from TLJ, so I think the simplest thing you could do to improve TROS would be to improve TLJ.

 

[FPS murderer]

Anakin ghost instead of Han Solo...

 

[DrROBschiz]

No Palpatine

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This

 

[DustyVonErich]

Make TLJ a fever dream and start off after TFA. Give Finn the Force.

 

[Chimpzy]

Remove the bit between 00:00 and 02:22

 

[Grug]

"Rey who?"

"Just Rey."

 

[Kanhir]

Make it a proper sequel to the first two films.

That's basically it. Continue developing the characters from those films, on both the hero and villain sides, and craft a story around them and their established backstories and motivations. The actors clearly have great chemistry so work with it instead of against it.

Don't introduce new characters, don't retcon plot points, don't introduce a new main villain and galaxy-level threat.
You wouldn't do it in the third act of a film, so don't do it in the third film of a trilogy.

 

[Arn]

The real answer is written and directed by Rian.

The more realistic answer for some improvement on what is an atrocious pile of nonsense is making Rey a nobody, not a descendent of Palpatine or Skywalker or whatever. The Palpatine family tree was awful, but having Rey name herself as a Skywalker was equally atrocious. Remove that nonsense and the whole product isn't quite as awful.

 

[Deleted member 9932]

Give it to lucas

 

[DIE BART DIE]

Somehow, Palpatine didn't return

 

[Marvo Pandoras]

Use Trevorrow's script.

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After reading the details of the leaked script........I agree with this 100%

 

[Weltall Zero]

Its director.

Bonus points if you're not sarcastic!

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I'm not being sarcastic at all. The movie is unsalvageable regardless of how many changes you make to it.

 

[Ushojax]

Disney wanted to introduce new force sensitive people so they could continue the merchandise sales, which is fine whatever, but Rey to be a nobody immediately more powerful than the direct descendant of Anakin Skywalker and all the midichlorians he should have in his blood (which we know were enough to best Luke Skywalker), you'd have to also believe the Jedi Council, Obi-Wan, Yoda and Luke were complete jobbers with the Force, and most of the plight in ESB and ROTJ to be rendered functionally meaningless.

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Who is to say Rey's nobody parents weren't strong with the Force? Maybe they never had training. Maybe they never even knew. Maybe they didn't feel the Force and Rey just has a natural connection to it. In any case it's not important because Star Wars is not about Dragonball Z power levels. It's about the bonds between family and friends and how anyone can be a hero. It's not about how many bugs you have in your blood.

Rey being strong with the Force never needed an explanation as convoluted as they one they gave us in TROS. TLJ gives us one anyway when Snoke says "I knew that as he [Kylo] grew stronger, his equal in the light would rise". That's all the explanation that was needed.

 

[VaanXSnake]

You can't

 

[unicornKnight]

Rey goes Sith, Kylo goes Jedi

 

[Burai]

Stop letting angry, over-invested man-children on Twitter dictate how you make movies.

Whatever you think about TLJ, it at least has confidence in its convictions. ROS is a two hour apology for TLJ and for itself. Zero conviction, zero stakes, constantly looking for approval from the audience. Wretched.

 

[Annatar86]

Never release it

 

[345]

more alien milking

Stop letting angry, over-invested man-children on Twitter dictate how you make movies.

Whatever you think about TLJ, it at least has confidence in its convictions. ROS is a two hour apology for TLJ and for itself. Zero conviction, zero stakes, constantly looking for approval from the audience. Wretched.

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also this

 

[Tremorah]

Follow up on The Last Jedi instead of whatever the whole Palpatine thing is

 

[Mindwipe]

Don't follow TLJ which writes it into a corner.

 

[n00bp]

I mean, there are so many things that'd have to be changed, not just in RoS but also in TFA and TLJ. since there never was a coherent plan for the trilogy, seen as a whole it's just a mess. just remake the whole damn trilogy :p

but if I'd change ONE little thing in RoS it'd be removing that damn scavenger hunt dagger. incredibly stupid, and it's not reliant on anything that happened in the other sequels. just do ANYTHING else, just not a dagger that's conveniently located in a hole the good guys accidentally fall into that has a secret metal shape on it that matches the shape of the death star IF - and ONLY if - you stand at the EXACT right place.

damnit, it's been over a year and I'm still pissed 😂

 

[Dr. Mario]

Who is to say Rey's nobody parents weren't strong with the Force? Maybe they never had training. Maybe they never even knew. Maybe they didn't feel the Force and Rey just has a natural connection to it. In any case it's not important because Star Wars is not about Dragonball Z power levels.

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Only it is, that's what the previous six movies have quite clearly established.

"Over 20,000. Even Master Yoda doesn't have a midichlorian level that high."
"-No Jedi does."

Again, this only makes sense if you very forcibly ignore the six earlier movies. Which by all means is anyone's prerogative, to consider Disney's take more canon than George Lucas's. But TLJ is the outlier in this case, not the rest of Star Wars.

Rey being strong with the Force never needed an explanation as convoluted as they one they gave us in TROS.

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I'll agree with you here though.
Go watch the movies again. Rey being a Palpatine fits pretty much all of TLJ, except for when Kylo tells her, her parents were nobodies. But a) Kylo is the bad guy, who b) wants her to join her cause, so he has every reason to lie to her, and c) Palpatine could have easily hid his presence, much like Luke did. Kylo is an untrustworthy source. JJ should have just left it at that instead of bending some convoluted back story into a shape that fits both. Although I can understand with all the other petty retcons that that would have really riled people up.

 

[LaoJim]

I think it is impossible to make one singular change to make the plot good - insufficent build-up from the first two with TLJ writing the trilogy into a corner, but..

Either:

a) Film a decent light-sabre fight.

OR

b) Film a decent space battle.

The action in both RoS and TLJ is so underwhelmingly terrible. The duel on the sunken DeathStar looks epic, but it's one of the most incredibly tediouss set-pieces from any recent movie - thwack, thwack, thwack, Finn shouts 'Reeeyyyy', thwack, thwack, thwack, thwack, Rey is overwhelmed...

Similarly the great space battle just feels shapeless, a billion star destroyers take over slowly while every ship in the galaxy arrives to fight and it all seems irrelevent compared to the nonsensicle drama happening on the planet.

 

[Schreckstoff]

Only it is, that's what the previous six movies have quite clearly established.

"Over 20,000. Even Master Yoda doesn't have a midichlorian level that high."
"-No Jedi does."

Again, this only makes sense if you very forcibly ignore the six earlier movies. Which by all means is anyone's prerogative, to consider Disney's take more canon than George Lucas's. But TLJ is the outlier in this case, not the rest of Star Wars.


I'll agree with you here though.
Go watch the movies again. Rey being a Palpatine fits pretty much all of TLJ, except for when Kylo tells her, her parents were nobodies. But a) Kylo is the bad guy, who b) wants her to join her cause, so he has every reason to lie to her, and c) Palpatine could have easily hid his presence, much like Luke did. Kylo is an untrustworthy source. JJ should have just left it at that instead of bending some convoluted back story into a shape that fits both. Although I can understand with all the other petty retcons that that would have really riled people up.

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the OT never once mentioned midichlorians and the PT deserves to be ignored for the most part.

 

[NookSports]

I hate I'm about to say tho, but having Leía die in the opening crawl would've been better than the awful scenes we got.

 

[GMM]

The entire script.

But it's honestly hard to point at just one thing that can be changed in order to make it a better movie since it's rotten with baggage from the two prior movies and a lack of vision for the entire trilogy. The worst thing has to be a toss up with Reylo and Undead Palpatine, both aspects are dull crowd pleasing snoozefests lacking imagination, its the safest most dumb conclusion in an endless universe of imagination, someone really needs to tell JJ Abrams and the writing staff that Star Wars can be more than just the original trilogy.

Say what you want about the prequel trilogy, at least they tried going in another direction compared to the original movies and are a lot more interesting due to it. I really disliked The Force Awakens when i saw it the first time, not because it was a bad movie on it's own, but simply because it lacked any imagination in terms of it's story, that entire movie can just be summed up as "Star Wars, the greatest classics reimagined!", it's so creatively bankrupt despite it having a good premise with Rey and Finn.

The Last Jedi is the only decent movies among the new trilogy and even that one has a ton of nonsensical stuff that just doesn't go anywhere with the Finn/Rose side quest arch going absolutely nowhere, you could cut away half the movie and almost nothing would have changed by the end.

The biggest fault of the new trilogy is that it didn't feel like a trilogy, it's three different movies that don't support each other outside of sharing a few key characters. The biggest fault of ROS is that the plot almost feels entirely self contained and the two prior movies didn't know that Palpatine was supposed to show up at all since we already had two villains in Snooke and Kylo Ren, it's just laughable how ROS just starts with "Oh shit, Palpatine is back!" and thus the quest for the rest of the movie has been started, why didn't the trilogy have some sort of lead in to this completely unnecessary turn of events?

tldr, sequel trilogy is bad except that half of TLJ that is decent.