Do you agree, hiring-ERA?
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CEO: "I refuse to look at resumes that have this common yet outdated section" (Objective)
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Do you agree, hiring-ERA?
I just started applying for more professional jobs and I've yet to get question or docked for not including it.
Yeah I removed it a while ago.
It's like a coverletter for your resume but also in the resume but also different then the cover letter.
It's literally a useless thing to include. Almost any job I have been hired for hasn't even questioned me for not having a objective.
It's like a coverletter for your resume but also in the resume but also different then the cover letter.
It's literally a useless thing to include. Almost any job I have been hired for hasn't even questioned me for not having a objective.
I've read online and have been told to not have an objective on my resume.
Sounds good to me. Less bullshit for me to write.
Sounds good to me. Less bullshit for me to write.
Knowing a candidates career path goals is very useful to the relationship they with have with a company. Why would you ignore that?
Agreed. Enlighten people in the fact that it's stupid. That all well and good.
But saying you won't hire them? That's some bullshit.
If you're getting so many resumes that you need to make up reasons to weed them out even though you'll be dropping good candidates, then go ahead. Otherwise I don't understand these hiring managers who refuse to look at resumes with objectives, without cover letters, etc. because it seems arbitrary and it's not like the resume writer prefers that resume format.
I dunno, I was at the same job for over a decade so someone passing over my resume because my form is a little outdated irks me.
I dunno, I was at the same job for over a decade so someone passing over my resume because my form is a little outdated irks me.
I have been on multiple hiring committees as a Non HR person, in both public and private and I can tell you 100% "Objective" and "Skill" sections are not worth looking at. Skills can sometimes be worthwhile if they include programs or software they feel they excel in but "Great Listner" type skills listed are wasted paper space. They are just to subjective and could easily of been written by them or someone else.
Edit: Although after reading article I would disqualify someone for having those sections, just don't focus on them
Edit: Although after reading article I would disqualify someone for having those sections, just don't focus on them
You'd hope if they're going "yadda yadda" at the text, they'd at least skip to the work list before chucking it.
...huh?
Also, yes, the objective section on a resume is and always has been a stupid thing.
I removed mine a while ago and just replaced it with a summary. I figured someone skimming resumes might want a one-liner about me.
The problem with resumes is that plenty of people do the whole "if you do this then it goes straight in the trash" thing about resumes, except people all have differing standards about them.
The problem with resumes is that plenty of people do the whole "if you do this then it goes straight in the trash" thing about resumes, except people all have differing standards about them.
Eh, my objective section usually also includes preference on location/starting date. It's relevant info, but I also understand how it's become a dumping ground of hollow platitudes ("I want to find a career that matches my professional & personal ideals - giving me room to grow internally with ample opportunities to challenge myself").
I never had an objective line. This is the first I've heard about this included on a resume. I'm 32.
yeah this is modern, my ex who is in HR told me about resumes like this and it just looked strange to me, just list exceptional things I did right at the top, like an ad for myself. which is basically what it is, but it just seemed weird to do it like that when it was done differently for decades, with a "proper" introduction and buildup. the problem with that is, of course, that the company you are applying for has also "caught up" and values this kind of resume.
At that level, I guess it makes sense that you don't want to hire people who don't even put in due diligence on what makes a good, modern resume.
Objectives have a purpose in some contexts. When I'm handing out resumes to companies at career fairs and they have multiple positions open to different majors, it's important for me to say "I have X years of experience as a Y and I'm interested in role Z." as a profile summary. This guy sounds like a stiff baby boomer.
This. Like, are you really going to throw out the resume of a highly qualified person because they have a fuckin objective section?
Fine but then in the interview dont ask stupid shit like "why do you want to work here?" Well I've always been passionate about not starving to death what the fuck do you think. Goddam corporate america is so arbitrary everything is such a goddam crapshoot.
Objectives are a dumb part of a resume that takes up space and doesn't say anything, but this dude comes off as the typical stuck up prick who enjoys lording power over people.
Resumes are a crapshoot even when done well. You can spruce it up to paint a narrative of how much value you brought to your previous employers, sure, with fancy words and other self-congratulatory shit. Or you could list your skills, qualifications, and responsibilities like an actual prospective employee and not a professional interviewer.
Resumes are a crapshoot even when done well. You can spruce it up to paint a narrative of how much value you brought to your previous employers, sure, with fancy words and other self-congratulatory shit. Or you could list your skills, qualifications, and responsibilities like an actual prospective employee and not a professional interviewer.
Actually, having been a career fair recruiter myself, resumes that came in WITH a specific relevant objective statement got more impression and attention from me. I could tell who was just tossing a resume at me versus who knew what company and products they were applying to work with based off their objective statement. Why do you want to work for my company? A history of experience doesn't say that per se.
Fuck entitled pieces of shit that discount and discard capable and talented human beings for trivial reasons that have nothing to do with their ability to perform. CEOs are sociopathic garbage.
Well, when you are at a career fair, likely with multiple positions on offer. An objective is kind of necessary otherwise you'd be reviewing resumes without any kind of context.
In all the C.V. training I've had from school and Job Centres etc., the advice has always been to keep things informative but concise. The idea of putting some "Objective" paragraph in seems like a complete waste of space and I've never heard of it, nor seen it whilst being involved in recruiting. Must be a cultural U.S. thing.
Is there really any answer to that question that's not made-up bullshit other than "to make a living"?
It's pretty annoying to see so many hot takes about discounting resumes when the expectations are changing so rapidly that only hiring managers are even aware of the trends.
Like, for every person saying "I don't bother looking at resumes that do [outdated thing] there's some article saying "make sure your resume as [outdated thing]"
Like, I get it, employers have the luxury to completely discount resumes based on anecdotal observations made by the people reviewing them.
Like, for every person saying "I don't bother looking at resumes that do [outdated thing] there's some article saying "make sure your resume as [outdated thing]"
Like, I get it, employers have the luxury to completely discount resumes based on anecdotal observations made by the people reviewing them.
It's a holdover from the 90s when resumes were almost considered an art form.
The obsession employers have with resumes will never fail to amuse me. Qualifications and certifications I get, and employment history. Society treats a resume like it's the damn Constitution.
It's a lot more relevant of a question when applying for the kinds of things I do - nonprofit work, academia, etc. In those cases you might legitimately be trying to build up a particular skillset, work closely with a particular community, etc.