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Liking something doesn't mean we don't want it to get even better. Just don't belittle people saying the stuff they like is actually insulting to kids 🥴
Seriously. And even—or rather especially—for fairly young children, a good basic story structure and execution simply works.
They, too, want to be part of an event the game just talked up. Being told 'oh yeah, Leon took care of that' is just not exciting, lmao.
It'd be a nice change of pace if people were able to voice their dissatisfaction with something without painting it like it killed their mom
With all due respect, but perhaps don't take criticism about a video game too personally?
It's about having discussions that have a shred of meaning instead of nonsense all day. Saying the games are insulting to even kids is 4chan level debate
That's exciting, I hope its good! I have a lot of memories with Diamond since it was my first pokemon game. Come to think of it, pokemon diamond/pearl is so expensive nowadays, now its gonna get worse >.>
If we were no longer allowed to argue that some story is insultingly bad because other members might wrongfully take that as a personal insult we might as well shut Era down.
it took a third version to be tolerable. that knocks it down a couple of notches despite Platinum being good. lets see what GF bases the remakes on
Seriously, you can discuss any topic you want, but if people wants to have a good discussion then we'll all have to use more meaningful and documented arguments than this.
Otherwise we can all yell in a corner but I doubt it'll be interesting for anyone.
It's not 4chan level debate. It's me voicing my deep frustration with the story telling, which I find insultingly bad. Like, I feel it's insulting my intelligence. No good story will make me feel this way.
But frankly, I don't even can muster the motivation to reflect on why it's so bad, so I will just stop here, as I'm afraid I can't engage in meaningful discussion with you.
Diamond and Pearl hold such special places in my heart, the joy they brought and memories I have are great and I still loved be then today. But Platinum definitely brought some much needed changes and improvements over Diamond and Pearl
If it's insulting your intelligence what do you think that says about people who like it? They're not as intelligent as you? I'm sorry but this is 4chan level. You can say it's not personal all you want but people can read between the lines. And if you don't actually mean that there surely are better ways to not infer it unintentionally.
There's never a bad time to talk about how much Diamond and Pearl suck.
Again, it's my opinion, and I really do feel this way, especially with Sword and Shield. I don't mean to insult other people with my opinion but I can see how it might. I guess deep down I'm angry at myself that I keep coming back to these games expecting them to have grown into something more akin to my tastes and being disappointed every time anew.
Well... Platinum didn't change the battle speed unfortunately :p
This is a more constructive way to express how you feel, I am just tired of the discourse on here being just people screaming at one another. Thanks for seeing my point of view.
Pokémon is frustrating because there's so much potential in the stories that can be told through the world, and there's just less of that now.
The SwSh DLC wasn't perfect but it was a huge step up in that regard. But what's sad is that this is the type of side content or world building that would have originally been in the critical path once upon a time.
These are RPGs. The story telling and NPC dialogue becoming so basic wouldn't be as noticeable if that wasn't the case.
The SwSh DLC wasn't perfect but it was a huge step up in that regard. But what's sad is that this is the type of side content or world building that would have originally been in the critical path once upon a time.
These are RPGs. The story telling and NPC dialogue becoming so basic wouldn't be as noticeable if that wasn't the case.
Yeah, but at least the static sprites didn't experience slowdown when attacking.
I really like some of these ideas and would love more experimentation in the future.
I've also wanted some form of action element in battles since forever. It could be purely cosmetic is well. While you are picking 1 of your 4 moves you can use the right stick to position your Pokemon on the field. Just so everything isn't so static and lifeless. A taunt button!
Maybe all those silly lines, boxes and circle on the Pokemon field actually mean something. Moving your Pokemon this far away could potentially negate a tiny bit of damage from wide area attacks like Surf and Earth Quake. Moving them closer to that center Pokeball diagram circle makes physical attacks add a pinch more damage. And not just pick a spot either but manually control the Pokemon so they are walking, running, floating, or flying into position. Give you a quick and small sense of what it feels like to control the Pokemon though in a very limited way.
I don't know but something in the game to feel like I'm controling something. Along with something that won't make battles look like the most absolute boring ship you'd ever seen in your life.
I am hoping for neither (don't kill me).
I find these mechanics to be super gimmicky.
Hold still whilst I calibrate my reticle...
I prefer Mega Evolutions because they're just better designed and the mechanic is far more tactical than Gigantamaxing.
For connectivity reasons, it's highly likely any further games in Gen 8 would have Dynamax/Gigantamax. However, that doesn't preclude the possibility of Mega
I disagree about Megas being better designed personally but to each their own.
I do find it funny, as we were going in to Gen 7 people were insisting/hoping for Mega Evolutions to be removed. Now they are, people are pushing for them to come back
Truth be told, I didn't really play the games that had mega evolutions. Is this limited to a few select Pokemon or available to all?
46 different Pokémon have Mega Evolutions. It causes an increase in their stats, a different ability and often a change of type
Here's a list of them:
Mega Evolution - Serebii.net
Full details and lists on all Mega Evolutions and Mega Evolved Pokémon & Primal Reversions
If anything it's the most unbalanced out of Megas, Z-Moves and Dynamaxing. That's why Mega Kangaskhan dominated during Gen 6. They gave it to Pokémon already strong, only a handful of rarely used Pokémon became viable due to it. Specifically, Mega Mawile.
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Yep. I say it often. With the Pokémon community it's always
This gen sucks
Last gen was not good
2 gens ago was "actually not that bad." and underrated
3 gens ago was the pinnacle of all that is Pokémon
That's kinda how growing up works lol. We are getting old and the kids growing up on the new generations are gonna like what they grew up with more. It's a life cycle.
I mean it's still true with people who have been in since the beginning but yeah that's definitely a thing, especially as many of the now adults are starting youtube channels to express these sentiments haha
I enjoy Mega Evolution quite a bit, but Dynamax/Gigantamax is just a better mechanic in practice, at least for doubles play. Pretty much makes it so that any one of your six Pokémon can Mega Evolve, rather than just having one designated user. Sure, some Pokémon can take advantage of it better than others — you should never Dynamax, say, Regieleki for example — but having 2-3 viable options rather than 1 option exclusively gives a good amount of variance to matches.
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I found the whole Dynamax thing stupid for a variety of reasons, but the main was just showing how GF is still emulating their standard battling position from the GB era. From the positioning of the trainers, how shrunken down large Pokemon are in normal battles in 3D, it feels claustrophobic on the big screen, as if I'm still on a 3DS with how smushed together everything is. I really hope Gen 9 offers a better battling experience/scaling on a console. Pull the trainers and Pokemon further apart. Utilize all that empty space.
But I've held onto that hope since Gamefreak's jump to 3D and was continually disappointed, so I'll continue to expect them to disappoint.
But I've held onto that hope since Gamefreak's jump to 3D and was continually disappointed, so I'll continue to expect them to disappoint.
I would be okay with completely disconnected attack animations for things like beams/projectiles/whatever in exchange for Pokémon being scaled to the correct sizes in battle. I realize Game Freak probably scales them to specific standard body sizes in order to make fairly universal animations. They can still do that and just not have them line up perfectly if they really want. The scaled-down sizes are just so immersion breaking.
As far as the Mega Evolution/Gigantamax thing goes, I really dislike both concepts but they exist now. These are essentially whole new Pokémon as far as the Pokémon Company is concerned, and it's obvious from some of their marketing that Megas will be back at some point. I would rather they bring back Megas, make Gigantamax forms work the same way (use a held item, just make them a more reasonable size) and rework the underlying mechanic. I'd be fine with Megas/Gigantamax forms being a 3-turn only boost with access to a unique move during those 3 turns. That stops Megas from being so ridiculously broken and it allows all existent forms to exist in a single game.
As far as the Mega Evolution/Gigantamax thing goes, I really dislike both concepts but they exist now. These are essentially whole new Pokémon as far as the Pokémon Company is concerned, and it's obvious from some of their marketing that Megas will be back at some point. I would rather they bring back Megas, make Gigantamax forms work the same way (use a held item, just make them a more reasonable size) and rework the underlying mechanic. I'd be fine with Megas/Gigantamax forms being a 3-turn only boost with access to a unique move during those 3 turns. That stops Megas from being so ridiculously broken and it allows all existent forms to exist in a single game.
That was a vocal minority.
Megas are way more popular than Z Moves and Dynamax.
I personally could do without either. I think GF needs to move away from these temporary battle gimmicks that affect different pokemon differently (as in some have Megas/Giga forms while others don't). They need to move back to mechanics that EVERY pokemon can take advantage of equally.
When you think about it dyna/giga forms are "basically" manually activated Abilities, except because they can be manually activated as opposed to being passive/automatic, they then force your opponents to respond which IMO throws off the strategic balance. It then just becomes "Oh, they transformed? I guess I have to too"
I honestly think the next big strategic move for the battle system will be something involving positioning. All these other gimmicks that last a gen or 2 are nonsensical and clearly not sustainable
I'd say that's what z-crystals are, but they're still nukes you'd give to select pokemon because they can use them better
It's always the vocal minority
I always argue the Z-Status moves are better choices than the powerful moves.
My main point is I don't like gimmicks that are highly situational in battles and aren't equal among all pokemon. Yes you could say abilities are similar, but I think having them be passive and only indirectly manual (as in using a move to activate your ability), but they still feel better integrated and less gimmicky
Top be fair, Gigantamax is just a slight twist on Dynamax and has barely any different effect, just a different move. No different stats, moves or abilities.
Dynamax, in Doubles anyway, I'd argue is the most balanced of the three. In singles, yeah no they're all awful.
And honestly, no I like these twists. Just different moves that not all Pokémon have isn't the way to change things up each generaton and positioning...I don't agree it'd be good. I didn't like it when Yo-kai did it and I highly doubt I'd like it here. It'd be superfluous
the gems from Gen 5 then (which were subsequently removed)
max moves were this weird mix of z-status and z-attacks. in a way, they didn't make anything new, just shuffled some things around, between z-moves and megas. but I guess that exemplifies the fact that removing stuff like triple battles (and rotation battles I guess) was a dumb move because that's a big ass can of potential that can make battles more (or less) strategic without needing to add pokemon-specific changes like megas/gigantamaxing
I miss my Extreme Evoboost doubles team - especially now that I've realized too late I could've made the setup much more reliable. But that's not really what you're referring to, and I agree; there were a lot of interesting Z-Status setups back then.
That's just the way of things when children are a huge part of the target audience. People too young to bother with message boards adore Sword and Shield. I maintain that I always loved Black and White, but I was 12 at the time (and also didn't play a Pokemon game until HeartGold) - though I also never really understood the vitriol towards gen 6 and 7 even if I didn't like them quite as much.
I'm not sure how Yokai Watch does it. I was thinking more of Radiant Historia
- I can just imagine how they could further tweak move changes similar to how they did for double battles (stuff like surfing hitting both opponents or EQ hitting everyone) to something like this.
- Not to mention since we have different terrain moves those could further be evolved.
- Different sized pokemon could take up multiple spaces instead of 1, but that would have other benefits (ie. if a pokemon was 2 spaces wide, their physical attacks could hit 2 spaces wide). Stuff like that. And it wouldn't just be temporary
That's another point. A lot of cool strategy elements are lost by the games mainly staying 1v1 focused. They need to make 2v2 standard