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Celebrities who actually accept responsibility for shitty views or comments.
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At the time he probably felt the need to so that his career would recover from the hit.
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Yup, it is. He's spoken about it before. Broken Lungs and Sky Is Falling are meant to compliment each other in much the same way that Daedalus is a follow-up to Melting Point of Wax.
Broken Lungs is about reconciling the heartbreak, horror and sorrow of 9/11 with the refusal to convert those feelings into hatred and racism towards other nations. He has also dabbled in some 9/11 conspiracy think- nothing super crazy but sweeping away of information and details from the general public. The Sky Is Falling is a less somber track, a bit more frantic and covers how politicians used our emotional fragility from 9/11 to fuel the jingoism behind the Iraq war.
Yep, me too. The Vheissu anniversary tour, my brother went with me and it was incredible. The signed poster is hanging beside me as I type this.
It's so awesome to see more Thrice fans here!
I don't always agree with Dustin's world views but he always comes from a place of compassion. And when someone disagrees with him, as long as it's not associated with bigotry, he always responses with patience, kindness and even "oh that's interesting, maybe I'm wrong. I should read into that".
The Mars Hill thing is wild isn't it? I knew that Dustin denounced their church and left- His involvement with the FBI investigation was something that I learned much later, maybe it wasn't meant to be known initially but there are some fascinating exposes on how Driscoll was brought down. One of them had a list of inside informants and my jaw dropped when I saw Dustin's name high on the list.
I remember thinking that Louis C.K. wrote an excellent apology for his bullshit and I was looking forward to seeing how he would right his wrongs with his return. Boy, was I wrong about that.
Thanks for the transcription! It goes to show how conservative his audience is if he thinks they'd call him a virtual signaler for wanting the world to be a better place. I had wished he had been specific about his past of being a Nazi apologist like towards Milo and others, but maybe another time. Anyway, thanks for the snippet.
I thought that Eddie Murphy's apology for homophobic comments in his old stand-ups was pretty sincere.
Jenna Marbles. Did a bunch of bad shit in her early career, became a huge ally, and then when confronted about the shit she did, apologized and left youtube forever.
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Yep. I remember feeling relief and hope reading that apology. But my female friends were right when they all smelled the bullshit. They were right.
Rob McElhenny has gone on record to say he regrets the way the show treated a trans character in past episodes of Always Sunny in Philadelphia
The writers could have easily used the excuse that the characters are horrible people and therefore would use derogatory language but they realised that such terms are hurtful no matter the context and managed to steer away from that.
This is what I came in here to post. He seems genuinely ashamed in the clip, and really he could have easily ignored the whole thing and made no statement.
What's kinda nuts about Arin being progressive is how much pushback he gets from his Newgrounds-era colleagues. "You lost your sense of humor," etc. Children at play 👶
Yeah this was a massive story at the time and this appearance was huge. It ensured Jay Leno would plague the airwaves for a long long time.
wow way back when this guy was the first non MSM "news" source I ever watched. I was a daily viewer (maybe age 17-18) I don't remember quite when I outgrew him but I do remember checking back in with his channel a few years ago and being amazed I ever watched it. I remember him saying he's a libertarian and voting for Gary Johnson during the 2012 election. He also had gun ownership merchandise lol.
not related to Hugh but it depends where you found said prostitute. For example, people who fly to poor countries with known sex trafficking epidemics, (Thailand, Philippines, etc..) for the sole purpose of paying for sex at the first opportunity? SHITTY people. Bad. Very likely contributing to actual slavery.
I too came in here to post Jim. Used to hate the guy, but now I have a great deal of respect for him.
Ryan was a bit before my time as a GB fan, so I wasn't aware of this. What was the context for this?
Speaking of Giant Bomb: While this clip isn't a case of someone expressing something shitty intentionally, I still love Alex's reaction. The whole situation is funny, but I also find it great that he's so quick to realize what he's saying, and apologize for it.
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Cenk is still kind of a dumpster fire. just about different things than he used to be.
True, but without him it is arguable that you wouldn't have at least some progressive voices in congress out there e.g. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar etc via Justice Democrats which he was pretty instrumental in founding. He seems to do a lot of good and it is redemption in a way.
i only started following since a years or so! I was aware of some shit he said but not the sexist anti-feminist stuff, what was that about?
but yeah he's great now
I used to watch her stuff a long time ago (missed the bad shit, apparently). I saw her apology and the decision to step away. Is that actually the path people "should" take, though? Obviously it's her choice, but I personally would prefer she stick around after, maybe use her stardom for something positive if possible.
I am not a fan so don't tend to keep up, but I believe that was amongst those horrible things I mention him doing in his past. I doubt Ana Kasparian would work with him if he still did.
I believe she was with the Young Turks when he still held those beliefs.
Then you know better than I. It seems strange then that you wouldn't know if he still held those beliefs as you claimed before.
I don't follow his work, rather I remember others here discussing the issue around him and his Genocide denial. From that along with the fact Ana has been with him for a long time (relatively) speaking, his beliefs and her working there possibly coincide.
Whatever you are trying to imply is dumb and you are being defensive over nothing, except us conversing about a person who denied a genocide.
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That's a tough question to answer.
People joke that she "self-cancelled" but in a way, she did. She called out old videos of herself where she was being problematic and then left the platform.
A friend of mine is a huge fan of hers and sometimes comments that she's heard that she's been in a deep depression for most of the year, but I try to stay out of people's lives if they decide that their lives are no longer public. I think she could have stuck around and kept making content but she clearly felt she needed time away to work on herself. I see you guys agreeing with me about how Arin Hanson addressed his old content but not everyone can address the situation that way.
That's a pretty terrible example for the thread then.
Also either the way he apologized or the way it's framed implies hiring prostitutes is "worse" (and therefore, more worthy of the headline) than being unfaithful. He should apologize for cheating on his wife, period. Would it be any less of a betrayal of trust if he hadn't paid for it?
And unintentionally (and very thankfully) took down the careers of Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star along with her.
You're talking about something that happened 25 years ago. Even now a lot of people still look down on sex workers and those who engage their services. Back then, cheating on your wife with a prostitute when you are seen as the consummate gentleman was going to have consequences to your reputation. And let's be very fair here. His apology came off more like he got his hand caught in a cookie jar than that he was caught doing something really wrong. He flashed that boyish grin and stammered out his apology in that Hugh Grant way and that was pretty much it. It likely cost him a bit of work right then and made him the butt of jokes for a while, but other than that I don't think it was ever given the weight that a lot of these other cases are. So no, probably not the best example for a thread like this.
Um what?
The same Jim Sterling that covers the game industry? Sounds nothing like him.
I dunno. He's the one that brought it up in the first place, but his admission was pretty awful. I'd really like to think he knows how messed up that was, but then who could really let themselves fall into that mindset in the first place?
He talked about it in this interview, I hope the link works because it's only accessible through Wayback Machine now:
https://web.archive.org/web/2014101...th-jim-sterling-about-sexism-in-game-culture/
And an article with transcripts of his old tweets, back when he used "feminazi" unironically (brace yourselves, it's awful): https://gomakemeasandwich.wordpress...ords-why-jim-sterling-is-in-fact-very-sexist/
He's effectively not the same person anymore. He's had quite a journey (in good part thanks to his wife).
Ozzy Osbourne
Apparently during the Monsters of Rock festival in 1986 he made a disparaging remark about Def Leppard letting "the freakshow" play on stage. That being a direct insult to drummer Rick Allen who was playing his first live performances since losing his arm.
Ozzy since apologized to both the band and Rick.
Apparently during the Monsters of Rock festival in 1986 he made a disparaging remark about Def Leppard letting "the freakshow" play on stage. That being a direct insult to drummer Rick Allen who was playing his first live performances since losing his arm.
Ozzy since apologized to both the band and Rick.
Not trying to be rude but I though they were gay? Not that it matters in the slightest just never knew they were married!
I believe they came out as pan... actually I could be wrong though.
It was, and I think it felt particularly sincere because it was made
A) in the 1990s, when homophobia was still widely tolerated, and the Internet didn't yet allow for public accountability campaigns
B) multiple times (i.e. both in 1996 and again more recently)
Yeah when I found out just how hardcore Orange County Christian that band Thrice was it kinda soured me on them. Glad Dustin came around.
Man Arin really did take a turn for the better. I still remember earlier in the year when the BLM protests were in full swing him and Game Grumps coming out in support and apologizing for all the bullshit, and then you look over at Jon Trons twitter and he made a fuckin joke out of it all. Really put it into perspective what kinda person each of them became after all these years.
God I miss her channel so much.
The vast majority of the comments in that livestream were celebratory - IIRC there were 2 people who commented along those lines.
Because the prostitute was Black. Back then, that was the worst part about it. I definitely don't see why he is in this thread.
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Huh, wow. I started watching the odd video of his probably close to two years ago now, and during that time he's always felt fairly progressive as far as I could tell? He's been highly critical of Trump and is constantly drawing attention to Republican misinformation, or the facts of situations. The video above is definitely not the first time in which he's told Trump supporters to just leave. He's also been calling for harsher gun control laws for the entire time I've been watching, too.
Super surprised to hear about all of this tbh.
I was watching him 2011-2012 to clarify. things were quite different on his channel back then. glad I stopped watching before gamergate tho
on the topic of Arin I do appreciate that he's owned up to so much and can keep matters private/to smaller groups instead of NEEDING to make absolutely everything public to the biggest amount of people.
I specifically remember the thread of someone here on Era who sent him an interview email way before the recent public twitter situation where the OP specifically asked him to give comments on the now infamous old voice recording of him. He replied in an email with the lengthy apology and left it at that. As a content creator and Game Grumps in general, I've moved on to other content creators of similar fashion since GG doesn't do it for me anymore (out of that circle I follow Rubber Ross on Twitch now) but I respect how much he has done and how much he has changed. Not everyone has to accept his apology of course, just shows that people can absolutely change.
I specifically remember the thread of someone here on Era who sent him an interview email way before the recent public twitter situation where the OP specifically asked him to give comments on the now infamous old voice recording of him. He replied in an email with the lengthy apology and left it at that. As a content creator and Game Grumps in general, I've moved on to other content creators of similar fashion since GG doesn't do it for me anymore (out of that circle I follow Rubber Ross on Twitch now) but I respect how much he has done and how much he has changed. Not everyone has to accept his apology of course, just shows that people can absolutely change.