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Celebrating no Epic Store Version of games makes me little sad , and here is why (regional pricing, read OP)
- Thread starter Ryuichi Naruhodo
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Epic tainted the PC market with utter crap. This is the bed they made, so I can't blame pc gamers for wanting to watch them sleep in it, especially when even in this very thread people are still trying to downplay the problems with Epics approach. It's Epic's fault you are collateral damage in those kinds of celebrations, OP.
But it sounds like it will come to the store anyways OP, so you should be good on that front.
But it sounds like it will come to the store anyways OP, so you should be good on that front.
The thing is, this is kind of a perfect example of how Epic could legitimately compete and offer a service/feature that Steam doesn't.
The best companies compete by taking advantage of market inefficiencies. These things do exist but, instead, their version is just paying for all these games and offering almost nothing else in return except spite to the consumers.
The best companies compete by taking advantage of market inefficiencies. These things do exist but, instead, their version is just paying for all these games and offering almost nothing else in return except spite to the consumers.
Not if they can head into the pubg forums and start spamming slurs raving about how they need to build a wall around china
I agree with the OP... I just bought Journey for 5€ the other day. There is no way in hell it would get the same price on Steam, even with the Steam sales which have sucked for the last 5 years. I have 3500 games on Steam but I am glad competition in form of EGS has arrived to bring in fresh waters to the PC games front.
People are acting like its a personal attack on them if the EGS bought Metro exclusivity. These are all big corporations, and should I feel sorry about Steam losing some games to EGS? Sorry, but no. Should I be sorry if Baldurs Gate 3 is not coming to EGS? Nah, the game will probably cost 59,99€ on Steam and there is no way in hell I am paying that price in my region with my income on a game. So I will wait for the heavy discount or not buy it at all.
People are acting like its a personal attack on them if the EGS bought Metro exclusivity. These are all big corporations, and should I feel sorry about Steam losing some games to EGS? Sorry, but no. Should I be sorry if Baldurs Gate 3 is not coming to EGS? Nah, the game will probably cost 59,99€ on Steam and there is no way in hell I am paying that price in my region with my income on a game. So I will wait for the heavy discount or not buy it at all.
Actually - just to call out "Steam doesn't Moderate" - just the other day, a user here - InquisitorAles, mentioned on discord how someone was plagiarising his long form reviews - it took less than 10 minutes for 6 reports to get the reviews and user banned, and we mused of how this would be a fun example to point out. I'm sure he can verify that for you.
Good to know that reviews are more important than my deadname and address
I can also add more. I saw someone who had their profile all themed with Mussolini stuff while checking something in the War Thunder forums. I reported the profile, less than an hour later I got a response saying they'd taken action. I checked and that person was now in the default "blank slate" profile mode.
Not the first time something I reported was swiftly dealt with either, but it's the most recent case I have in mind.
User banned (1 month): antagonizing another member over their experiences with harassment and doxxing
Post the steam ticket to prove it. It's super easy to do, as you should know.
Here's what I got:
How do I dig up a 4 year old ticketPost the steam ticket to prove it. It's super easy to do, as you should know.
Here's what I got:
Well, Epic is using the same tactics Amazon did to gain the edge in the market. The very same ones. The less power or marketshare they have, the better.
By searching the email account you have associated with your Steam account?
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In most cases , Regionally priced EGS is still cheaper than even CDkeys by a fair amount at launch
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Haha wow that's a pretty serious accusation there. It's actually two. that PC culture is a plague and that valve made it that way. Yeah I don't know bout all that.
This 1000x.
For some, it obviously started as a "I hate Fortnite, therefore I hate Epic Games, therefore I hate whatever it's trying to do here with its own storefront." Add in a dash of brand loyalty and the exclusives stuff just provided a poor rationalization for the hate masked as an anti-consumer fight. (Yes I know this isn't everyone. And definitely not you, person who is reading this and saying, "But not me!")
And to be clear, I don't play Fortnite, haven't bought anything on EGS, and have a massive Steam library. But the majority of the Epic Game Store argument is damn silly.
Come on guys, asking someone for proof about their doxxing? Just agree to disagree and move on.
The EGS exclusivity push has just soured the storefront for many people including myself. It's just the reality. Epic Games had enough money to make a high quality storefront with all the features of Steam. Instead they rushed it out the door knowing it was anemic in almost every regard and used their money on buying exclusives in hopes of forcing players to use the featureless storefront. Then you have the various statements coming from them during all of this that has just stoked the flames. They fucked up.
Yeah this whole wanting epic to fail for their practices thing is kinda petty TBH. I mean i get criticizing them and even not using them but to actively root against them is just wild. So many people that partake in that don't really know much besides what they read and have little knowledge in the full facet of what their rooting against. But thats not even my big problem with it, it's always so trashy to me to see people saying things like "no tolerence for the intolerent" is just a excuse to not take the high road and lead by example but to instead sink to the level of the ones in the wrong just to have a easy way to fight back. I mean I get it surely but don;t agree with it in the slightest. Education is always the best answer.
Oooh, that makes more sense. Yeah, sadly moderation in Steam was much worse 4-7 years ago (As well as their customer service). They ramped up a lot, and did even more once they started having Steam Direct.
As I said in my previous post, even 2 years ago, it was weird to have complete community bans and it was all more forum based (which made it so that people could be assholes everywhere without really getting any punishment).
Hopefully (and from my experience right now it is very likely), they would easily remove that. Sorry for your bad experiences, nobody should have to suffer doxing.
I wouldn't say Valve caused it as much as benefited from it. Its more the toxic gaming culture in general.
yes sometimes one word can change the meaning of a sentence fairly drastically
Funnily enough, if the situation was reversed you would have no other recourse as EGS severely limits the places you can buy games from. Currently experiencing that as EGS won't take paypal and I can't by anything from there despite having decent regional prices.
Exactly.
Why, even as someone who want the PC platform to give options, should I want devs to give the option of buying their game on EGS, making that store more likely to survive and thus more likely to keep removing option from me with other games ?
If tomorow EGS announce that they stop doing third party exclusivity deal, I'll stop hoping to see them not getting games, and more generaly failing.
If it is an open ticket, you can still push them on it - I would be floored if they closed a ticket for something so serious, and totally support how angry anyone would rightfully be in that situation - https://help.steampowered.com/en/
But every other argument you've made is flat our ridiculous - objectively - that this tall story certainly sounds as absurd
Well thanks, I sure hope it would be different now but I'm still sour about much of it. I happy with any alternative to compete with steam even if they have their own shit practice because hopefully competition will make both more accommodating
Ooooh you are talking 4 years ago. Their moderation was rightly criticised for a long time back then, and they had to hire a ton of people for support.
Nowadays I'm sure they would respond swiftly to a case like yours (I have sent a bunch of reports for something as simple as profile pictures, they have always taken action), but I understand it doesn't make up for what happened back then.
I just celebrate when game isn't exclusive to the EGS because Steam does offer regional pricing in my country and the EGS doesn't.
It's a direct response to EGS's bullshit.
I'm totally fine with games being on EVERY storefront, and don't actively want them not to appear on EGS... But I am gonna take a certain amount of smug satisfaction when a huge game does release on every storefront except EGS. Sorry, I know that's petty but I'm only human.
I'm totally fine with games being on EVERY storefront, and don't actively want them not to appear on EGS... But I am gonna take a certain amount of smug satisfaction when a huge game does release on every storefront except EGS. Sorry, I know that's petty but I'm only human.
Cool. So you are just choosing to ignore peoples very real complaints that have been talked about for six months now. Congrats I guess?
Of particular note, you would think from Epic's original stance - they were going to be some bastion of support for indies, giving them funding and better cut to support them - - instead, it is just rich publishers, getting richer, in a move of attempted spectacle. It benefits no one but Epic and the relevant publisher getting the bag of money.
I called the characterization of PC gaming as the most toxic a major accusation, but I didn't say that can't be true. It may be true. A lot of vile shit goes down and it's largely unchecked. Not just on steam. But yes perhaps PC gaming at Large. I don't think it's necessarily more so, but it's possible. I just want to say I recognize how important that is to you.
I felt very similar to you. People championing competition when Epic started to buy exclusives while on my end those games were now more expensive and had less features by being removed from Steam.
Every game should be available on all storefronts.
Valve did a sale like this back in February and they do offer help to indie developers. It's just not by giving them cash for exclusivity
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People say this like it's supposed to mean something. JMD is never going to be added to steam...so am I just to be content with paying literally my rent for a video game..?
I am jsut explaining why Epic has more regions than Steam, not whether or not it is a good thing.
For us out here living the third world dream, we would very much rather pay regional pricing in USD than wait for a fairy tale ending where steam adds our currencies.
Don't ever use the "well the reason steam doesn't support regional pricing for your country is because....." I'mma check you bro.
Don't ever use the "well the reason steam doesn't support regional pricing for your country is because....." I'mma check you bro.
We don't know why some of these developers are opting against EGS. Personally I have no issues with games that release on every storefront. Why not release on every platform possible?
theyre just explaining why it takes more time, not justifying why steam doesnt currently have regional pricing in a certain place
most reasonable people hope that more regions are included in regional pricing. valve adds a few more every year
having people pay fair prices for games no matter where they are is only a positive
I live in a third world country and steam added not so long ago our currency and its fucking great.
Check on me bro
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This
Of course it is better to pay in pure local currency and is the superior option , but looks like this option isnt for every country until now , so paying for reduced regional pricing in USD is the obvious better option than waiting years and years for a miracle that our local currency to be added