CDPR shareholder Q&A - "Sony/MS certified CP2077 because they were counting game would be fixed for launch"

[Dust]

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/12/conference-call_14-12.mp3

At around 13:00 is the statement.
So they okayed this shitshow on PS4/XB under assumption (?) it would be fixed.
Whole Q&A is kinda "so sorry ;( please don't refund lol" tone so you can tell it's a mess.

I thought this was interesting in light of "how did they allow this to launch on base consoles" discussion, but if it's a no go CDPR thread then please lock.

 

[ASleepingMonkey]

oh my god lmfao

 

[Henrar]

They sound like it was their first game on consoles and are a band of amateurs and not a supposedly world class studio.

 

[Deleted member 5491]

This showl shitshow gets better by any day

 

[APOEERA]

The proper thing to do would have been one of several things:

1) Delay the game AGAIN and have it be for next gen consoles. Not the best solution because they would leave money on the table for PS4/Xbox One owners but it would be usable.
2) Put a disclaimer on the game to advise purchasers to use it on PS4 Pro/Xbox One X only.
3) Pull the game from publication for console until base consoles version is fixed.

 

[SigSig]

Honestly, this practice of just trusting in the day 1 patch needs to stop.
Is it a good thing we can work on games after they go gold? Very much so, yes. Can we expect wonders? No, and we shouldn't. This is mostly on CDPR, but it's also on MS and Sony and they'd better refund.

 

[Dead Man Typing]

This is how a game can get delayed after it goes gold. I wonder if this will lead to a change in policy for cert candidates. I doubt it but hopefully some good can come from this.

 

[RoaminRonin]

And that promise was broken so MS/PS should honor those refunds.

 

[FelipeMGM]

Here is the quote and the link for the transcript

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/12/call-transcript_en.pdf

First – your question was about the focus and the cause of ours ignoring, so to speak, the shortcomings of the current-gen version. It is more about us looking – as was previously stated – at the PC and next-gen performance rather than current-gen. We definitely did not spend enough time looking at that. I wouldn't say that we felt any external or internal pressure to launch on the date – other than the normal pressure, which is typical for any release. So that was not the cause. In terms of the certification process and the third parties – this is definitely on our side. I can only assume that they trusted that we're going to fix things upon release, and that obviously did not come together exactly as we had planned.

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[AHA-Lambda]

Omg what the hell XD

 

[OberstKrueger]

2) Put a disclaimer on the game to advise purchasers to use it on PS4 Pro/Xbox One X only.

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Is this allowed? I thought both companies had a policy that a game had to work well on both of their own consoles, just with the higher-end ones being able to push better graphics.

 

[TubaZef]

The proper thing to do would have been one or two things:

1) Delay the game AGAIN and have it be for next gen consoles. Not the best solution because they would leave money on the table for PS4/Xbox One owners but it would be usable.
2) Put a disclaimer on the game to advise purchasers to use it on PS4 Pro/Xbox One X only.

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3) Cancel the PS4/XBONE versions, reduce the need for crunch and refund the pre-purchases

 

[DaleCooper]

"A good playable game without crashes."

That sounds like a proper video game.

 

[Chance Hale]

There are plenty of games that run shit on those consoles lol

 

[panda-zebra]

And that promise was broken so MS/PS should honor those refunds.

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And CDPR should foot the bill for the transaction processing and all the downloads of 100GB+ and patches.

 

[Sedated]

Thats what i had assumed. Smaller devs probably wouldnt have gone past their check but big devs do get leeway and they do have to provide some leniency to big pubs.

 

[Yopis]

"A good playable game without crashes."

That sounds like a proper video game.

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Miles Morales crashes my PS5

 

[MinusTydus]

3) Cancel the PS4/XBONE versions, reduce the need for crunch and refund the pre-purchases

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So 1 basically. Because there are no PS5/XBS versions.

 

[DSN2K]

Be interesting to know how common this is ? how certification works regarding game quality. What exactly is benchmark for passing it ? that the game boots and works with the pad and System UI !?

 

[gozu]

Honestly, this practice of just trusting in the day 1 patch needs to stop.

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amen. so easy and simple.

 

[Tora]

Occasionally we get games that are just ridiculously hyped that it penetrates into the mainstream conscience and your average everybody knows about it.

Wonder if it would have been worth just releasing on PC first, then consoles at a later date? I know that's easier said than done and with the benefit of hindsight, but it seems like quite a few popular games have been fine with that method.

 

[Baccus]

Everybody failed the public trust with this game.

• CDPR (fuck them) by being assholes, malicious and liars.
• The gaming press (super fuck them) by failing to inform the public and hold CDPR accountable. Also the 10/10s, wtf.
• The console makers for having certified this trash and not giving out refunds.

This industry is trash and Cyberpunk showed us that.

 

[DaleCooper]

Miles Morales crashes my PS5

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When we are done complaining about CDPR we can take a look at it.

 

[Rickyrozay2o9]

I mean even if they were "mainly" looking at the pc and next gen consoles theirs still a ton of ridiculous bugs. Performance is definitely better though.

 

[Maxime]

A smaller studio would have been told to fuck off.

 

[m_sakura]

Q6: Hello; I have three questions. First, regarding the refunds again, but another issue: I was wondering whether your console partners, like Microsoft and Sony will by any chance participate in the refunds, or is the financial burden yours only? The second question – are you considering giving away a bigger DLC for free to make gamers feel less disappointed? Is it on the table? And the last one – could you comment on the latest leak from Jason Schreier about the change in your bonus policy? I'm wondering – will it be connected with the game's revenues or will you be giving out bonuses at nominal value to retain the staff? That's all from me.

MN: I'll start – the question is whether Microsoft and Sony are participating financially in refunds. One has to understand: Microsoft and Sony have refund policies for every product that is released digitally on their storefronts. Despite several articles I've seen that things are being set up just for us, it's actually not true – these policies are in place and have always been in place; they're not offered specifically for us.

LOL

 

[tolkir]

Change Ubisoft for CDProject.

 

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