If this is what you want, there are a billion options for you out there.
And don't start now with this civility bs.
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CDPR is a transphobic company. It's time we stop making excuses for them.
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If this is what you want, there are a billion options for you out there.
And don't start now with this civility bs.
And now you've made it look like he's set his minions on the trans community, who had fuck all to do with this, in retaliation.
Good job.
You really aren't, and stop pretending you are when you use language like "virtue signaling" to describe concerns from a community you are not a part of.
Dude clearly doesn't give a shit about the Gabe situation, he's using at as a plausible smokescreen to start crap
Maybe respected game journos shouldn't downplay racism
I don't think the nature of OTs is ever going to change without a drastic culture shift across the board, not within Era but within people entirely, because humans inherently seek out serotonin rushes and being excited for things is the most basic form. GAF, Era, and everywhere else has the 'problem' of people becoming very attached to the excitement in of itself for Big Expensive Product No.XXXX and attaching an identity to that excitement. They become a "hype guy" or whatever, which in the most obnoxious of cases results in cultivation of an overly positive echo chamber where criticism of all forms is dismissed. Happens on twitter too; those overwhelmingly positive people who can only ever talk positive things about whatever game, movie, TV show, product, etc they're excited for and seem oddly hostile towards any form of negativity because they haven't yet developed the cognitive mechanisms to reconcile multiple points of thought and perspective on the things they're interested in. It's like a default MUST BE THE BEST THING EVER versus MUST BE AWFUL.
It's been here since day dot with console warring horseshit, Next Big Video Game hype threads, every fucking Marvel film thread, etc etc. It's not so much an issue of Era as it is of people. The fallacy has always been in expecting Era to be any different, when the forum has largely been par for course, for better or worse.
I think I maybe put actual effort into one OT back in the day. From memory it was the Mass Effect 2 port for PS3. Then I just did every Mass Effect 3 DLC and N7 Day OT in paint. It's a lot more fun to just have fun with the OTs instead of pouring hours into free marketing for companies that largely don't need, as an intro post in a thread most people won't read, and will be quietly lost behind a mountain of pages.
Too much effort when I'd rather stick with this;
EXACTLY
You're attacking everyone here for what you say are "baseless claims" and "virtue signaling" and the rest of your post is just textbook gamer whining, what else is there to say.
The insinuation that anyone's trying to "ruin" CDPR or that they actually can be "ruined" by this is lolworthy, even more so when you chuck in the "baseless claims" and "virtue signalling" shit.
Get some basic fucking empathy, the billion dollar corp will be fine.
Get some basic fucking empathy, the billion dollar corp will be fine.
fuck this lol, i was trying to put a ton of thought into my first post on the site about how I feel as a trans person about this shit but now I'm just too tired to put that effort in for cis people's benefit after seeing the latest chud come in here to whine about gamers rights.
Every person fighting against the apathy and inaction from the members and staff get my full love and respect. The discussions you have in these threads go much farther in the games industry than any in the OT, and people would do well to remember that.
Trans Rights Forever
Black Lives Matter
EDIT: For the record if you're in the industry and being banned on this site is causing immediate professional blowback, maybe you should be considering your words very carefully? That's just me.
Every person fighting against the apathy and inaction from the members and staff get my full love and respect. The discussions you have in these threads go much farther in the games industry than any in the OT, and people would do well to remember that.
Trans Rights Forever
Black Lives Matter
EDIT: For the record if you're in the industry and being banned on this site is causing immediate professional blowback, maybe you should be considering your words very carefully? That's just me.
Well, guess we can just close this thread since all those claims turned out to be baseless, huh?
Jesus Christ. 🤦♂️
Jesus Christ. 🤦♂️
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One: Why post this in this thread other than to troll?
Two: I read Gabe's post. He was totally trying to downplay racism and deserved a ban for that. If he doesn't want to have his career at stake, don't downplay racism.
Three: Again, What is the point of posting that in this thread again?
To be fair, most of us could only ever dream of living up to something typed by blame space.
That's why I asked him for clarification. Is he saying that the transphobic claims against CDPR are baseless or am I missing something here?
I guess.
I must admit I was confused seeing the post as Gabe wasn't banned for anything he said in this thread.
Gabe also kept downplaying a trans journalist so it's somewhat relevant, but why would anyone defend that?
The rare low post account one is happy and joyed to see.
I celebrate you!
I poked my head into the spoiler thread and
The fact the game might be panned for being janky/short/underwhelming is becoming a real possibility. Very curious how these folks will react if the game doesn't live up to the hype, and if that'll be what turns them against CDPR. Not the transphobia.
The next two weeks are going to be wild.
The next two weeks are going to be wild.
No, he thinks that people offended by anything these companies put out should stop whining, no matter the content.
haha thanks all <3 I joined right before one of the major community blowups and I never really found the right "time" to start posting but hopefully I can post some more. :)
(How does quoting work lol)
(How does quoting work lol)
So I saw CDPR trending on Twitter and this is the first thing that came up for me. This shit just shows how disappointing it is that the transphobia isn't being seriously covered outside of this forum. Instead of looking into the actual issues themselves, they mock us for it.
Mod edit: removed twitter link
Mod edit: removed twitter link
Is that supposed to be... better? Directly coming into this thread to say stop whining?
I never was on gaf and I know its a continuation of the practice from there, but the free-marketing "OT" concept for massive AAA games on here has always been very weird to me (quick clarification, though: they are great for smaller games since they tend to provide a place to discuss them that would be hard to find otherwise & the small promotion they get from the thread is generally a good thing)--and its especially frustrating to see for this particular game.
After literal years of gross shit from CDP/CDPR/GOG (primarily in marketing, but also in the products themselves) along with indefensible and widely-reported-on mismanagement practices & worker mistreatment, it's been pretty baffling to see this game continue to be breathlessly hyped up and marketed on this forum. This website literally has zero obligation to provide a platform for discussion about this media product, and I can only imagine discussion of it hasn't been banned due to the sheer volume of people interested in it (and of course the resultant ad revenue from so many eyes), winning out over the genuine and legitimate concerns of plenty of others.
It's not a perfect comparison, but I can only imagine if, hypothetically, a member of this site (even a 'prominent' one) opened a thread about, say, a new port of Heartbeat, an independent game developed by just two people who have been openly and proudly transphobic, that shit would be shut down almost immediately.
I don't know.....restricting discussion of the game entirely probably won't address the heart of the issue, and I'm not sure what the solution is, and I guess I should not and do not expect much more from a video game forum, but this is all really shameful and emblematic of many of the frustrations I (and seemingly many others) have with this website.
After literal years of gross shit from CDP/CDPR/GOG (primarily in marketing, but also in the products themselves) along with indefensible and widely-reported-on mismanagement practices & worker mistreatment, it's been pretty baffling to see this game continue to be breathlessly hyped up and marketed on this forum. This website literally has zero obligation to provide a platform for discussion about this media product, and I can only imagine discussion of it hasn't been banned due to the sheer volume of people interested in it (and of course the resultant ad revenue from so many eyes), winning out over the genuine and legitimate concerns of plenty of others.
It's not a perfect comparison, but I can only imagine if, hypothetically, a member of this site (even a 'prominent' one) opened a thread about, say, a new port of Heartbeat, an independent game developed by just two people who have been openly and proudly transphobic, that shit would be shut down almost immediately.
I don't know.....restricting discussion of the game entirely probably won't address the heart of the issue, and I'm not sure what the solution is, and I guess I should not and do not expect much more from a video game forum, but this is all really shameful and emblematic of many of the frustrations I (and seemingly many others) have with this website.
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These chuds and others like them spend their entire life day-in-day-out obsessing over us. Best not to pay them that much mind.
shit bro. they probably could have had their account deleted and wiped that from the internet but you just cemented it in history
We do not wish to signal boost twitter accounts that spend their time digging through posts on our forum. Just a heads up why the link was removed. Thanks!
Heyo everyone I'm awake now and like I said last night I think its time we get to work coming up with ideas. I sorta saw some of the last few posts and I do feel that moving the OT to a mod controlled OT may be for the best. With the way this situation has gone I do think removing the enflaming issue would probably allow us to move on a little easier. That said I'm a bit sad that we are going straight for blaming staff for this when the real problem are the dumb people enflaming things in that OT and I think thats the main issue that should be addressed.
I think you're not realizing what you're doing right now. Granted, I'm not very familiar with this situation, but according to other posters here what you're posting about it doesn't really have much to do with people in this thread. So I'll tell you how what you're doing looks like:
It looks like you're coming into a thread mainly used by the trans community, which just had to and still are going through a lot of shit because of this whole Cyberpunk OT situation, talking about an issue you have with a ban concerning racism, and that's what making this place so bad according to you. That's what makes it toxic. Not the transphobia that is the actual topic here, nuh-uh.
If your friend (?) has an issue with their ban message, there's a new ticket system on era. And various ways to contact staff. Why not use that instead of coming in here to complain towards people here.
User banned at least so we can get back on topic until the next troll comes in.
People don't understand that their choice of words matters and should be carefully chosen before posting.
If someone is afraid of professional ramifications, why even get out on that ledge in the first place unless you are 100% sure of what you are saying. A journalist, above almost anyone else, knows this.
Getting whiplash from seeing all the videos embedded in the spoiler thread being taken down. Imagine if CDPR spent this much energy fighting transphobia.
So I have CDPR fanboys filling my mentions again after one of my tweets blew up, and again they're all using
. Anyone have any idea what this means?
Wow, a lot happened in this thread since I last checked it yesterday. Can't respond to everything, but I stand in solidarity for Shiron and IceMonk.
It amazes me that some people can't empathize by doing the bare minimum. You can still play the game, but you don't need to overhype the OT by posting about every little thing that comes out. You can even enjoy it while still being critical about the problematic parts in it. You can also take your time with the game so you can digest it properly and comment about it in a more fair manner. FOMO is real and incredibly toxic.
Trans Lives Matter.
It amazes me that some people can't empathize by doing the bare minimum. You can still play the game, but you don't need to overhype the OT by posting about every little thing that comes out. You can even enjoy it while still being critical about the problematic parts in it. You can also take your time with the game so you can digest it properly and comment about it in a more fair manner. FOMO is real and incredibly toxic.
Trans Lives Matter.
Judging by their actions, CDPR doesn't care at all about any social issues or about how their work ends up affecting real people. Their bold populist marketing strategy makes clear that all they care about is building and maintaining an army of indoctrinated "fans" (that didn't even play the game yet). It's not that uncommon for a video game company to make some effort towards limiting leaks during the few days leading to a big release, but such an aggressive suppression effort isn't surprising coming from them at all.
When you think about it, having a video game company acting like this is really on-brand for the general climate of 2020... And like they conclude in the Polygon article, what's really worrying is that this aggressive populist strategy is working, which means that other companies might be tempted to adopt similar strategies to push their games in the future. And that's depressing.
Absolutely love that this was wrote with zero self awareness, as if companies are more important than people. Bye asshole.
I honestly think people will just pretend it's still the best game ever.