Thank you, and it's crazy how us older guard feel the desire to be there, like we need to be there and support our brothers/sisters/NB's.
I gotcha I'm just gonna get right to work doing something more productive. And it happens when you struggle with depression and self-esteem issues but hell if it isn't a motivator to do better.
I really do think staff should start clamping down of the stuff that is intentionally flaming our side. Like a lot of this could have been put to bed if someone had put their foot down and sorted this all out in some way. I feel like even if staff gave a warning I think stuff would have been sorted out much sooner than it did.
The only promotion it got was like two people who work there, who have a fraction of the followers any of their main channels do, tweeting about it.
It's probably a passion project of the people who got it to happen as well. Which makes it even sadder, imo.
If there's going to be a OT thread on the game I don't see why all CP discussion cant be confined to that thread at least. Theres a few thread pertaining to the game as of now.
Have people thrown the idea of making another 1 or 2 prominent members of this thread, mods? I think it could do wonders to have one of you advocating from the inside
allowing CP threads comes with its own issues because of its popularity
I don't think so although I think having more trans mods while nice and fills the gap after some seats got vacated I do feel like we may need to address the more problematic issues. I.e. better moderation methods and public relations as a whole maybe would be a better avenue to go down. That said I like your idea.
The story is that it was a shirt made specifically for the employees, but people saw them wearing it and requested it enough for them to make them available to the public and donate some of the money to charity... apparently not enough people for them to actually tell people they were doing it, which kinda defeats the purpose. But hey, at least they can say they kinda sorta half-assed something now!
Yeah, moderation needs to change, and doing so would be substantially easier with more of yall on the mod team. I would really push for it.
Part of me feels like Staff feels frustrated by this situation too and I think working through and kind of keeping things civil(edit: by taking action) could go a long way. That said I think we need better techniques to deal with the sort of mob mentality that happens when bad stuff breaks out like with what just happened. Someone needs to reign everyone in but also encourage more positive discussion as a whole. While this isn't easy and if handled wrong can upset more members of the community I think it could go a long way to shortening the periods of chaos with someone willing to listen to the issues at hand instead of having that initial kneejerk reaction(tho this takes a lot of guts to do and is very hard to do and my sympathies go out to staff when this happens). It's especially helpful by even temporarily removing the problem before it can get out of hand.(i.e. temporarily banning or thread banning the person or locking the thread down.)
I really hope so too tbh. I want to believe that things will get better here. And if that means speaking up I am all for it. Like things shouldn't have gotten as bad as they did. Also, I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to voice your support for us it means a lot.
Yeah. In an ideal world, of course we would want to educate. But in an ideal world the education wouldn't need to be done in the first place. Calling for civility solely in the hopes of education, but then leaving vulnerable groups as the ones who have to do the education is doing nothing more than putting them at risk.
Hmm yea I didn't think about how many people would be making threads that would need to be redirected to the OT. Though it would be worth at least attempting imo. And it might make me a bit of an arse but I'd combine the OT and spoiler threads also.
on that im of two minds
Yeah, when the calls to be a bit more calm come from good places it's fine. But if people are saying that other people being unreasonable at this point because we aren't being civil enough, it does feel like it's one of two things: either they have missed the last few months, or they want us to make less noise. Not saying all calls for it come from those places, but it does make them seem a bit sus sometimes.
I feel like this starts with getting something on paper and genuinely trying to figure stuff out. I don't want anyone to villify or demonize staff for what happened and I especially hope people don't do this tomarrow. If we want to suggest positive changes to the community we need to treat staff like human beings and not as perfect people. I think in the long term the more we help staff the more bad stuff doesn't happen. It's rather late and I'm tired so I'm going to call it a night but please please please dont attack them just try to help. And maybe the old ways don't work but in order to change those ways we need to start putting together a list of things that we can potentially change.
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