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aerie

wonky
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
8,036
Official Staff Communication
Attacks like these often put innocent employees at risk of doxxing and harassment by trolls and the worst parts of the internet. While you may not feel sympathy for the company's management, keep in mind the large number of largely innocent people who are now at risk. Any posts that could be seen as supporting doxxing or targeted harassment will be actioned severely.
 
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Stall_19

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,999
EPICALLY pwned? Who talks like that anymore? I have so much secondhand embarrassment from reading that ransom note.
 

Uzzy

Gabe’s little helper
Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,222
Hull, UK
Well that's shitty. Hopefully they catch those behind it, and that anything that ends up in the wild isn't damaging to individuals.
 

BobbeMalle

Banned
Dec 5, 2017
2,019
These actions are gross not only because they could target innocent employees, but first and foremost because they're illegal. You can't fight fire with fire, if this is their way to "make justice", these guys are backwards.
 

Mifec

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,752
The Woods hopefully that's retroactively applied to the closed thread.


The topic at hand: incredibly shitty for all the HR files and worker info that's included in those, don't care about the ceo's and people on top who might end up looking bad but I also don't think it's great to herald this as some great win.
 

Irikan

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,392
Epically pwned? Fucking cringe shit lmao

I really hope the employees don't get their info leaked. I feel for them, can't have a single break
 

Roytheone

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,157
I read somewhere some employees got death threads of "gamers" because of the state of cyberpunk. And now potentially their personal info will get leaked. That's terrifying.
 

ciddative

Member
Apr 5, 2018
4,632
What are the chances the perpetrators will be found?

I'm not super-familiar with present day ransomware methods but they caught the Valve and Sony hackers, so hopefully something turns up.
 

El_Chino

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,114
Official Staff Communication
Attacks like these often put innocent employees at risk of doxxing and harassment by trolls and the worst parts of the internet. While you may not feel sympathy for the company's management, keep in mind the large number of largely innocent people who are now at risk. Any posts that could be seen as supporting doxxing or targeted harassment will be actioned severely.
Thank you.
 

ShadowAUS

Member
Feb 20, 2019
2,109
Australia
As someone who has had detaailed personal data leaked in the past in a ransomware attack - there is nothing to celebrate here. This isn't a Robin Hood taking the rich down a peg to give to the needy situation, this is an individual (or group of) opportunistic hacker(s) holding innocent peoples personal data hostage to line their pockets - no matter how shite of a company CDPR are, the only ones this is going to potentially do significant damage to are the employees. CDPR as a corporate entity will recover from basically any stock hit that will come out of this, and as much as source code leaks suck - at least that's not endangering peoples livelihood (at least as far corporate source code leaks go) like a lot of the data in the Admin/Legal and HR dumps can.

Official Staff Communication
Attacks like these often put innocent employees at risk of doxxing and harassment by trolls and the worst parts of the internet. While you may not feel sympathy for the company's management, keep in mind the large number of largely innocent people who are now at risk. Any posts that could be seen as supporting doxxing or targeted harassment will be actioned severely.

Thanks for this by the way - as someone currently doing their cybersecurity degree and studying the effects that cybercrime and leaks can have on individuals - that previous thread made me viscerally uncomfortable.
 
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Apr 11, 2018
2,437
Sweden
I don't have a lot to say except that the reactions on Twitter / Former thread is embarrassing at best. And this entire hack is embarrassing, "Epically pwned", I could throw up.

Yes, the management of CDPR fucking sucks. But at the end of the day, all I give a fuck about is the developers that have gone through hell and back, and now they get affected even more for working under bad management. Sad, disgusting, and embarrassing all around.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,574
So at this point the Devs just gotta hope that no one commits identity theft with their stolen info. Stuff like bank accounts, social security numbers, work visas etc would probably be in the data dump.
Fucking hell.
 

FallenGrace

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,036
This such a disgusting thing to do. I hope they get found and arrested. As if the events of crunch and threats for CDPR employees hasn't been bad enough they now have this? I worry for their mental health.

What a bunch of wankers.
 

Mivey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,827
This type of news seems to become more common in the industry. Video game company need to get better at basic security, given the increasing social relevance of the medium, they make for pretty big targets to basically any hacker out there.
I doubt this has been some clever attack by someone obtaining 0-days or whatever. Given the language it's probably some script kiddies who managed to get someone within CD Projekt to open email attachments.
 

GhostofWar

Member
Apr 5, 2019
512
I don't see how any company could pay the ransoms, if it's something physical you get back in the ransom they have to steal (or kidnap) again to screw you again. With data how could you trust the people who just broke into your network/servers to delete the data, not ransom you again in a month or just release the data for fun. Capcom never paid did they?
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,639
I largely refrained from the Cyberpunk/CD Projekt Red topics this year.

Collectively the games they've made over the years have been a large part of my life and this is absolutely shattering to hear.

Hope those affected are looked after as much as possible.

EDIT: I had to go look at 'the other thread' for a second.

Don't tell me the vast majority of people here wouldn't say such malicious things about some other game dev companies because they know they can get away it.
 

Zen Hero

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,638
I don't get why hackers do this, the companies never seem to pay the ransom. It just seems like doing bad things for no reason.
 

Delusibeta

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,648
What are the chances the perpetrators will be found?

I'm not super-familiar with present day ransomware methods but they caught the Valve and Sony hackers, so hopefully something turns up.
I'd say less than 1%. Ransomware is increadably common, and this ransom-to-leak variant is increasingly popular. Judging by the provided note, I'm guessing that this is probably a script kiddie using a randsomware-as-a-service platform (but that's very much a guess).
 

MrCibb

Member
Dec 12, 2018
5,349
UK
What a shit show the last thread was.

Thoughts go out to the developers, is all you can do really. And I hope CDP looks after everybody effected. Can only hope the hackers didn't get anything too compromising since I doubt these are empty threats. But even if CDP paid some ransom, can't trust people like this to not make backups and shit like that. Fucking cunts.
 

score01

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,701
doesn't seem to be a rando ransamware attack but a targeted one as they mention CDPR in the txt file.

As someone who has helped clients deal with the fallout of these things they royally suck.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,574
These types of news seems to become more common in the industry.
Video game company need to get better at basic security. I doubt this has been some clever attack by someone optaining 0-days or whatever. Given the language it's probably some script kiddies who managed to get someone who open email attachments.
Work from home has created huge vectors for attacks.
 

ShadowAUS

Member
Feb 20, 2019
2,109
Australia
I don't get why hackers do this, the companies never seem to pay the ransom. It just seems like doing bad things for no reason.
The companies/organisations that do have an incentive to not talk about it.
^^^^ This - ransomware attacks, including large scale ones, are not at all uncommon, and it's not uncommon for the ransom to be paid out with the public never hearing a peep about it.
 

Mivey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,827
Work from home has created huge vectors for attacks.
True, if you give people access to your internal servers, then every single laptop becomes a possible security hole.
My point was that these types of attacks are often not some insanely clever hackers with near state actor levels of sophistication, but just due to someone clicking on "real_invoice.pdf.exe" without thinking.
 

Dust

C H A O S
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,288
Would professional hackers (assuming they are ones) really say "EPICALLY pwnd"?
Are those just lucky idiots who managed to get into servers?
 

Tecnniqe

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,743
Antarctica
Ransom note reads like something you'd get on Xbox live back in the day for random trash talking.

I hope Everyone's sensitive information stay secure. This is bad for everyone.
 

Arex

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,509
Indonesia
Did the replies get deleted?
*edit* oh the other thread got closed. Reposting my reply,

Regardless of how shitty CDPR as a company is, the consequences of this cyber attack isn't just limited to the company.
Shitty things to happen to anyone :\

Anyway these big gaming companies really need to amp up their cyber security.
 

Calibro

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,822
Belarus
Shitty situation all around. Still, can't help myself but remember this cross-promotion that says "Don't be a punk in cybersecurity":

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Deleted member 11008

User requested account closure
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
6,627
Would professional hackers (assuming they are ones) really say "EPICALLY pwnd"?
Are those just lucky idiots who managed to get into servers?

It wouldn't surprise me if it was phishing. I have some basic knowledge about cyber-security and the easiest way to access a system is through social engineering, not fancy algoritms or machines.
 

Nere

Member
Dec 8, 2017
2,147
Sounds like they either got hacked by a 10 year old or a person with the mentality of a 10 year old, who writes like that?
 

DrM

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,076
Slovenia
I have to apologize for my post in locked thread, did not think about serious consequences for devs/employees if their personal data would end up on internet.

Especially after everything happened with CP2077.
 
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Xion_Stellar

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,287
Was it some sort of pre adolescent person that hacked them? That ransom note is horrendously written and espite Cyberpunk's current condition I hope that people are more mature about their opinion on this after what happened to Nintendo and Capcom.
 

Son of Sparda

The Wise Ones
Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,619
I know they released a broken unfinished product based on lies, but it's still weird to go on twitter and see people cheer for this and say that CDPR deserved it.

It's completely understandable to be mad at them for CP2077, but come on now. This isn't the way to "get back at them".

Hopefully they manage to sort this out.
 

julia crawford

Took the red AND the blue pills
Member
Oct 27, 2017
35,298
Would professional hackers (assuming they are ones) really say "EPICALLY pwnd"?
Are those just lucky idiots who managed to get into servers?

I doubt they are being paid as professionals, I don't see reason for this to be state sponsored or corporate espionage.

The writing is likely part of the performance as a black hat actor. Don't take it as evidence of their skill, experience or age.
 

ShadowAUS

Member
Feb 20, 2019
2,109
Australia
Sounds like they either got hacked by a 10 year old or a person with the mentality of a 10 year old, who writes like that?
Would professional hackers (assuming they are ones) really say "EPICALLY pwnd"?
Are those just lucky idiots who managed to get into servers?
Was it some sort of pre adolescent person that hacked them? That ransom note is horrendously written and espite Cyberpunk's current condition I hope that people are more mature about their opinion on this after what happened to Nintendo and Capcom.
Leetspeak (and simplified derivatives of it) is still well and truly alive in hacking communities, at all levels from white hats with decades of experience to brand-new script kiddies. I've always found it a bit silly personally but *shrug*.
 

TheMadTitan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
27,248
As I said already, I hope that with the immediacy they came forward with helps protect the employees.

And the speed they responded to this with is the same speed every other company should move at. Go public and share the note. If the hackers do release and do damage, it's always going to be less than what it would've been had we found out days or weeks after the fact.

Notify employees first, of course.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,574
True, if you give people access to your internal servers, then every single laptop becomes a possible security hole.
My point was that these types of attacks are often not some insanely clever hackers with near state actor levels of sophistication, but just due to someone clicking on "real_invoice.pdf.exe" without thinking.
Oh absolutely. Even with tech literate people, a lapse in attention at times is enough to misread stuff and click anyway.