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CDPR: Cyberpunk 2077 will still have "some very occasional" 3rd person cutscenes
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I haven't really followed this thread so i'm not sure what incarnation of 3rd person cutscenes we do or don't have at this point but: Yes showing early gameplay has the potential of backfiring, though I feel that your game concept and planning having the possibility of completely cutting out a 3rd person perspective that's more than a graphics downgrade. That's how some people roleplay. "Look of the game" implies graphics. If this now includes a potential shift from mixed third/first person to only first I feel that's not very realistic gameplay being shown.
There are literally less than two minutes of 3rd person cutscenes in the original demo. The demo is 48 minutes long and full of story moments. There was never an indication that a 3rd person perspective was planned outside of vehicles.
"Look" in my opinion means visual fidelity. Not gameplay in and of itself. Unless otherwise specified.
"Before we start, a small and important disclaimer, the gameplay you are about to see, is from a work in progress version of the game, EVERYTHING you see is potentially subject to change"
The first 50 seconds
It's almost like I'm not a fan of old-school PC RPGs and don't get any value out of my protagonist being a zoomed-out paper doll that never does anything, can't emote, and can't meaningfully interact with other characters.
It's almost like that's the exact same reason I don't like first-person-only games. I like to actually be able to give a shit about my protagonist, and the player character being a floating camera or a zoomed-out paper doll works against that.
I mean sure you're "technically correct", I watched those videos the same as everyone else. Lot's of games make those disclaimers! But when a game is introduced as a Third/First person RPG with a major character creator letting you be whoever you want and see that reflected in game, then that changes, like sure you made that disclaimer, but that's also what got people excited in the first place...
Edit: Like when I see "Everything here is subject to change" i'm imagining UI, gunplay, mission design, graphics. Not like, the fundamental pitch of the game.
What did they change?
The demo has less than 3 minutes of TPP cutscenes, Marcin said: "occasionally 3rd person cutscenes are there", nothing has changed.
3 minutes out of 48 minutes are indeed occasionally 3rd person cutscenes
This wasn't introduced as a third/first person RPG, it was always a first person RPG. Literally at the two minute mark of the first demo.
"CYBERPUNK 2077 IS A FIRST PERSON ROLEPLAYING GAME"
In a 48 minute demo these are all the 3rd person scenes.
Like, the "very occasional" line is incredibly accurate.
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Come on man. That was last years trailer. This year they do a full blow out on how you can customize your character and how important that is and now you want to fallback on what was said then? Mmmmk. If that's your prerogative. They knew the expectations and how they were selling this game as an FPS with RPG elements, they know their demographic and they decided to pull the legs from out underneath us regardless. And to trivialize that point of contention is wholly unfair.
a subject to change was known from last year, from the demo , its not new
They were selling this game as a first person RPG with shooter elements. You can play this entire game non lethally or not with guns at all.
I get that, sure. Different folks, different strokes, all that. But why are you so hung up on having a TPS option in this specific game? It's not like the market is starved on that account, there's probably more TPS games than any other type.
That was last year demo and guess what? This year demo has the same disclaimer, surprise!
Also, OFFICIAL CDPR PRESS RELEASE OF 2018 (this shit is for press and investors)
Because the last game this developer made is one of my favorite RPGs of all time and it's frustrating that not only am I not going to get another game like that out of them for likely a decade, but there is nothing to look forward to to take its place from any OTHER developers, either. It sucks to feel like you're being left behind by an entire genre.
Don't you dare take away my sure to be embarrassingly/hilariously awkward first-person perspective sex cutscenes away from me!!!
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This whole thread has many posts like yours.
People upset it's not third person game, even tho it was never introduced as one. People think it should be third person because Witcher was, or because a RPG needs to have a third person option or some shit. I'm pretty sure we had a (large) thread on this last year as well.
Some people are more chill about it saying it's not for them. Others make dumb posts saying it's disgusting, etc etc.
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In the end, people need to not assume. It was introduced as a first person game. Gamers are not entitled to multiple view points just because it's a RPG. CDPR doesn't need to make it third person just because Witcher was third person. It doesn't work like that.
From Software games are not narrative games, and Tsushima is not an RPG.
I really have no clue what version of the original reveal you guys have watched. Honestly the ONLY 3rd person cutscene is with V in the elevator and then in her appartment when V gets out of bed, the rest is ALL from a first person perspective minus vehicle driving. From the whole 48 minutes the third person cutscene is 2.5 minutes long. The whole thing def wasnt sprinkled in with 3rd person cutscenes. It was clear from the beginning that first person cutscenes are the main format of story delivery. I def have no clue why we now have a 28 page thread with people up in arms about it.
yeah but if you play both , you can pretend like youre playing narrative focused rpgs
While that's not really a very important part of the game for me, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pretty curious to know how they're gonna make first person sex scenes not look completely fucked...pardon the pun
My understanding at the time of posting was that that wouldn't be in the game. I expected the bulk of the game to be first person and you at home and in specific cutscenes would be third person.
People who haven't played first person shooters: the thread ?
It's kinda weird how people "need" to have this be in third person. I actually welcome this. I think it's distracting in deus ex, although you get used to it. Lots of great games have had first person everything. Including half life 2. Also, you'll be able to see your customization every time you perform an action and see any part of your characters body.
On an additional note, if the cut scenes now allow free look, it's certainly not easier for an animator, as he now has to take every single other character the player might see, into account.
It's kinda weird how people "need" to have this be in third person. I actually welcome this. I think it's distracting in deus ex, although you get used to it. Lots of great games have had first person everything. Including half life 2. Also, you'll be able to see your customization every time you perform an action and see any part of your characters body.
On an additional note, if the cut scenes now allow free look, it's certainly not easier for an animator, as he now has to take every single other character the player might see, into account.
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If you're looking for third person perspective Witcher 3-like experiences, you've got the Horizon and Assassin's Creed franchises (since Origins anyway). Between just those 2 series, there's like over 200 hours of quality content available right now that you can play, and they're making new installments in both of those franchises right now as well.
To act like there is nothing like the Witcher 3 available now and in the near future is just untrue.
As much as i loved The Witcher, I doubt I'll go in for this. I find first-person view modes oddly off-putting and that goes doubly for RPG games: it's like having a book that reads in second person, it's feels off. Sure it will be great for those that do love this direction though.
Thread from last year on this very issue and text below from vestan
When CD Projekt Red formally unveiled the first look at Cyberpunk 2077's gameplay earlier this year, many were concerned whether the game would have an option to switch the perspective from first-person to third-person. CDPR confirmed later on that the game will be first-person only (aside from driving segments which will allow you to switch to third-person) and many were quick to voice their displeasure.
Criticisms towards this game have been weird as hell since the start
Remember when people were going apeshit that the reveal showed sunny weather
Neither of those franchises are anywhere remotely close to TW3 in terms of writing or quest design. Just because they're huge bloated open worlds doesn't mean they're worth my time. I finished Odyssey and I regret every minute I spent with that boring, glitchy pile of generic nothing.
And I couldn't even make it 10 hours into Horizon without getting bored. There's more to making a good game than just hyping up how big and/or pretty your overworld map is.
There's just nothing to look forward to moving forward if sequels to those games is all we're gonna get.
Tbh I always thought it was a mistake for them to go first-person — especially so in a game where you create your own character but spend the majority of the game unable to see them lol!
Honestly I doubt even the witcher 4 would get you hyped tbh.
I'm glad there's still a few 3rd person cutscenes out there and that they've clarified things. This situation where a majority is 1st person and some things 3rd person is what I was expecting to start with. Don't mind 1st person games at all.
If it's a first-person-only game, you bet it wouldn't. But if we're getting a new story with Ciri or Geralt (or even a playable Yen, to really shake things up) I would be there for it in a second.
True. I'm sure they had a meeting in the pre-production phase about this and it's unfortunate that they chose 1st person instead of third person.
Why would that be awkward? Many characters have died in first person games.
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