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(CBS News) - Members Of Presidential Cabinet Are Considering Removing Him Via 25th Amendment
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I thought it doesn't need votes, it can be performed by Vice President? We're not talking impeachment articles into removal which goes through legislative branch ad needs votes.
Impeaching him does not remove him from office for the next 14 days. Does anyone trust this lunatic with the nukes?
The Cabinet and VP need to vote to invoke the 25th, iirc.
There are several sections to the 25th. The one that has never been used is the 4th one where the President is declared incapable to perform his duties. This one requires the Cabinet and VP to sign a letter stating so.
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I think it is, considering if they meant this shit it should have been done long before now.
is there anything preventing an impeached/removed president from running again? cause if so even if only 2 weeks, fuck him trying to run again
impeachment allows you to go for "disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States"
which sounds pretty good to me considering he could theoretically run for office again next time
I wonder if Trump would be smart enough to know he can just rescind the 25th by saying he rescinds it.
Nope. It's used when the President is basically not conscious usually for the VP to take temporary control.
Nope. It's used when the President is basically not conscious usually for the VP to take temporary control.
Neither Pence nor McConnell acknowledged that Trump incited any violence during their Senate speeches.
They won't remove Trump.
In fact, none of the GoP senator thus far have laid any blame at Trump's feet. They're all playing it off as a rogue band of violent protestors.
They won't remove Trump.
In fact, none of the GoP senator thus far have laid any blame at Trump's feet. They're all playing it off as a rogue band of violent protestors.
To be fair, they have to look non-partisan because one works with him and the other is a majority leader of his party. Otherwise it adds fuel to the "steal."
It does strip him of pardon power for the rest of the time which means he'll be swimming in it so bad when he leaves
Two weeks before he has to go? Nah, they'll wait it out cuz they've been cowards for these last 4 years when it came to Trump and now they grow a spine? No way.
I'm unfamiliar with invoking the 25th. I thought only Congress could invoke it? What significance does cabinet invoking it mean?
Senate can vote to ban an impeached person from holding public office for life.
In any scenario where Trump is removed before election day, Pence would pardon him and his family/friends immediately. It's the GOP way.
Yup, he needs to be disqualified from ever holding public office again.
The 21 days is to give Congress time to impeach the President. They can both move power to acting President Pence and start impeaching Trump
In the "what if Republicans were still self-serving two-faced assholes but decided it was in their best interest to banish Trumpism rather than steer into it" scenario Trump would be impeached and removed before the 20th. Why? To trigger the provision that a removed official can never hold high office again. That could finally put Trumpism in the grave.
Invoking the 25th does almost nothing. He will still be able to tweet (if he gets unbanned), call into talk shows, make media appearances, attend rallies... basically all of the tools of mass media he's been using all along. The only thing of consequence it accomplishes is preventing him hiring/firing people and issuing pardons.
Neither of these scenarios are realistic because the Republican leadership don't really feel under threat so they see no reason to change course.
Invoking the 25th does almost nothing. He will still be able to tweet (if he gets unbanned), call into talk shows, make media appearances, attend rallies... basically all of the tools of mass media he's been using all along. The only thing of consequence it accomplishes is preventing him hiring/firing people and issuing pardons.
Neither of these scenarios are realistic because the Republican leadership don't really feel under threat so they see no reason to change course.
Tbh, as much as I'd like to see the 25th amendment used, I really don't see it happening. I'm seeing so many right wing individuals say things like "This was done by Antifa" and "they dressed up as Trump protesters to make them look bad." I'm annoyed by the way people think and don't see the mounting/truthful evidence that this WAS done by trump protesters. Trump needs to go, but I just don't see this going through.
you think after Trump threw protestors after him, you would think he would still support him?
screw that.
They could see it as a way to wash their hands.
My concern is, if this happened, what if Pence uses these days to pardon Trump? It's only a few more days and I'd rather see him in prison than removed from office with a pardon.
Yep. This is the shit that is so damned frustrating, I'm seeing it left/right on social media too. People are all the sudden coming to their senses and asking people just to understand and forget. Fuck that noise. I want a damned MAGA brand on your forehead.
"It was really ANTIFA who stormed the Capitol today!"
So you agree, it was a bad thing that the Capitol was stormed?"
"Lol no the Capitol deserved it, Trump was robbed viva la revolution."
So the people that stormed Congress were against storming Congress but MAGA supports storming Congress in general?
"As I said, only ANTIFA could've stormed Congress to make us look bad."
But you agree with the storming?
"Yes, the storming was great."
The Trump Supporter Circle of Logic
So you agree, it was a bad thing that the Capitol was stormed?"
"Lol no the Capitol deserved it, Trump was robbed viva la revolution."
So the people that stormed Congress were against storming Congress but MAGA supports storming Congress in general?
"As I said, only ANTIFA could've stormed Congress to make us look bad."
But you agree with the storming?
"Yes, the storming was great."
The Trump Supporter Circle of Logic