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Cats or Dogs? Let's find out which species is superior.
- Thread starter Lozjam
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Lmao... some cats just do it, "they can be trained" was separate from those others things. My friends cat used to use the toilet to poop in, was never trained at all. Just did it. My girlfriends cat has always just played fetch, didn't need to train her.
Cats are intelligent, dogs being able to be trained to do more doesn't mean cats are dumb. If you think otherwise, your experience is limited.
Yes. I thought this thread was tongue and cheek, but shit is heating up!
Yup, cats are far from stupid (barring some specific cases i've met). As i often say : cats understand full well what we want of them, they just often don't care, as the free spirits that they are.
Yeah, whoops. Ignore the part about staking claim. I understand your parasite won't let you think ill of your master.
Oops.
Don't be mad at me that the thing you love gave you a brain worm, claims you as territory, and makes you love it while you're emptying out a box full of its piss and shit.
Of course. All specimens can have different personalities, but we're talking about averages here. That wasn't even the only cat I had issue with that someone owned. My brother had a cat whose major personality trait was just to meow. That's it. Just meow all the time. Didn't matter how much attention you actually gave it. It was insatiable. I'd call him and be like "Yo, wanna go to the movies?" and in the background it's just "MROW!!!....... MROOOW!!!" Like, dude.
(Of course, he also had two other cats that were perfect, and by perfect I mean they kept each other entertained and were generally out of sight. Also very amenable to human handling; could hold Baby Girl (real name: Napoleon) like a baby and pat her stomach and she'd not mind. The boy Cannondale would only push away; no claws or biting.)
Also to the general public here: Research has shown that dogs have roughly twice as many neurons in their cerebral cortexes as cats do. Yes, dogs ARE smarter than cats....
I mean, have you looked at a cat lately???
You need to earn the trust of a cat and learn to live with them as friends rather than pets. Dogs are much simpler life forms that require much more attention. Cats are the best.
Yup. Our cat will show up with a crumbled-up receipt ball in her mouth and drop it to us to let us know she's in a playful / chasing mood to play fetch.
That's supposed to be a negative ? We are claiming our pets to be our own as well no ? Them doing the same in return seem perfectly fair.
Yes everyone posting in this thread is limited by their own experiences
I'm not denying that cats are intelligent. There is a cat stalking me right now, experimenting to find the maximally efficient method to get me to get off era and pay attention to him. It is a very annoying sort of intelligence
Not what I meant. You can look this up online, do research outside of your limited personal experience. Plenty of evidence that proves what some are claiming wrong.
Yep! My girlfriend's cat Miso just plops her favourite toy in front of us, we throw it, she retrieves it. The first time she did it was her choice, we just went with it.
This weird partonizing thing you're doing isn't helping your case. I don't know what kind of authority 'Petplace.com' is but at least your first link cited someone who might have been a doctor of some sort.
again from your new petplace.com source
Arguably it's the opposite. It's that cats ARE so simple that they require less attention generally. Dogs are more complicated creatures that need more stimulation. They need to play, they need to socialize, and they need to learn to be at their healthiest, and in that way they aren't that unlike humans.
But I'm not arguing for either one honestly. Some people prefer cats because they are so easy and that is completely understandable. Some dogs require a lot of work.
The point i am making is fallacious because cat versus dog threads are inherently extremely silly
(They are silly because everyone knows dog is best)
Complex as in more needs to manage vs a simpler time with a more independent animal is a different thing than dogs being dummies that need to be taught and cats being the smartest and choosing to do shit with you.
There is nothing silly about this, take that back!
Ah yes, it's so much more enjoyable to pick up a fresh turd by hand, separated by a single layer of plastic.
There are no winners in the animal waste cleanup game.
Cling to the comfort that it's marking you out of affection, and ignore that it's also marking you to claim you as well. 🤷🏻♂️
Do cat owners name their brain parasites?
Yep.
Dogs are way too much work that these fragile, delicate flowers just can't be bothered to put up with, and simultaneously dogs require absolutely no work whatsoever in order to wring out the maximum amount of happiness from them. Cats require absolutely no work at all because they're self-sustaining and thus are the better pet, but also "you have to work to earn their affection" which makes their affection more "genuine" and "rewarding."
It's...almost like.... whichever claim will make cats look good and dogs look horrible is whichever view the Cat Owner Society will subscribe to in any given moment regardless of any cognitive dissonance invoked. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 🤔 🤔 🤔
Which cat hurt you?
At the very least I feel like you educated yourself on cats, even if that wasn't the intent lol.
I think I get what you are saying. Since Humans also require a lot of attention and have to learn, cats are even smarter than us.
It's simply that cats are better. The rest just falls into place!
Ha, indeed!
We are dummies just like the doggos!
Sure, nobody wins. I agree.
I will say, however, that I don't use a baggy to pick up my dog's shit. She poops in the back yard and I pick it up with a poop rake and dump it. I also don't have to pick up her pee.
So I don't win, but I'm definitely picking up less stuff, and not doing it inside my own home.
I currently don't own a dog and have two cats yet I've had to clean up more dog shit by hand in or around my house than cat shit. Cats absolutely win on the animal waste cleanup game.
Nothing that uses the bathroom in a beach covered with their own shit and piss is better than a dog don't @ me k thx.
If you forced a dog to live inside all the time it would have to do that too.
That one is on the humans.
Damn. My Mom's cat actually shits on the floor, right outside the litter box. I used to think it's because it's stupid, but, maybe it's actually because it's smart. You may be on to something! Hmmm lol
yep, only difference is it would be cleanup off your floors and not a litter box
The reason we force cats to live inside all the time is because they turn into murder machines that decimate the local wildlife and then die at 4 years old. Can't just be like a dog roaming with buddies and scrounging for garbage, minding their own business. They gotta take about 10,000 birds with them.
Yeah I generally do not appreciate it when a roaming cat terrorizes my songbirds and then poops in my garden
Yes, they've retained their independence and do what they want. That's an argument in their favour.
You mean roaming the streets and often being a hazard to other dogs and humans resulting in them being put down
As previously mentioned, feral dogs can be fatal for humans and other animals. Including attacking our already endangered national animal.
Its truly bizarre to read in this thread like cats are the only ones that can be territorial, or the only ones that would be a problem outside.
People releasing animals that don't belong into the wild is a problem no matter if its snakes, cats or dogs. None of them understand what they're doing, but they will all act on instinct and ALL of them can and will do this if left to their own devices. "but dogs just roam with buds and eat garbage" nah....not really. That's kind of a dangerous concept to spread as a truth.
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"Environmental destruction is good when cats do it. The bluebirds had it coming; being all blue and shit."
Oh come on. I don't know how many emojis and big numbers and jokes I can put in my posts to make you understand I'm mostly being tongue-in-cheek about the whole thing.
Mostly. My secondary goal here isn't to say that dogs are perfect; it's to get cat owners to understand that their pets aren't, because- as noted in my cognitive dissonance post- I do think there are unfair biases towards cats that span decades of Internet arguing and early meme fame that go completely unchecked in these discussions (which you can't bring up because you get accused as being "another insecure dog owner"). So if you wanna kill the fun and actually take this thread seriously, we can do that. I have more than enough scientific material on my side to make the points I'm willing to make regarding the utility and intelligence of dogs.
Its honestly difficult to tell when there's someone accusing me of having brain worms ITT just for pointing out they didn't read their own articles. You're also being pretty rude about the whole thing too, especially proclamations about cognitive dissonance and threatening to unleash science to prove pet superiority *shrug*. I also have to notice a lot of confirmation bias if you're not seeing how often these threads turn into attacks on peoples character more often for liking cats as a pet.
Now that one im pretty sure was tongue in cheek
Humans are to blame here. They are the cause of this. If cats were left the hell alone, they would have found balance. We took their independence from them to domesticate them, and any destruction here is rightly added to the endless ways humans have destroyed the environment.
Cats eating birds is natural.
The are simpler life forms, not easier. The point is that with Dogs you are dealing with an animal, with cats you are dealing with a friend.
You feed the animal and it will follow you to the end of the world because we engineered them to do it so we're obligated to take care of every single freaking aspect of their lifes in exchange for total obedience. Cats are friends you invited to stay home for as long as they wanted, so taking care of them is a matter of courtesy.
Think cats are suffering from some bad PR or something. Anybody that thinks cats are assholes has probably never actually lived with a cat long enough to form a bond with it. Cats spend a great deal of every day fucking off on their own (mostly sleeping) but when a cat claims a human they turn into super loving cuddle machines
My family had dogs all my life and I find them to be way too high maintenance in comparison. Cats are unbelievably chill and easy to care for
My family had dogs all my life and I find them to be way too high maintenance in comparison. Cats are unbelievably chill and easy to care for
I, Nepenthe, am not irresponsible enough to make a serious moral or psychiatric analysis of someone based upon which domestic pet they prefer.
Even though cat owners will continue to accuse me of leaning conservative, being toxically masculine, being emotionally dependent, or miserable for having to be outside with my dog at all, just because I prefer dogs, without any self-reflection of their judgements upon us.
Actually we didn't do much work to domesticate cats; not as much as dogs. They mostly domesticated themselves. So, no, the horrific spread of cats and the resulting wrath they have, well, wrought, is partially their fault. C'mon, don't you guys describe cats as super geniuses? Give them credit for their deeds!