there were a few music cues that sounded like absolute poop to me too, i think the sound mix is pretty awful to tell you the truth, a lot of weird dynamics. they should definitely step up that and their foley work
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Castlevania Season 3 | OT | Out now! (Open spoilers) [UPDATE: Season 4 announced! See threadmarks!]
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there were a few music cues that sounded like absolute poop to me too, i think the sound mix is pretty awful to tell you the truth, a lot of weird dynamics. they should definitely step up that and their foley work
This show has no right to still be this boring and meandering three seasons in. The fact that half the damn cast still sound like they just woke up from an induced coma only adds to it.
if we were stuck with Trevor for two more seasons fucking kill me
Hector
Am I the only one who thinks he mostly got what he wanted? He doesn't seem to have any great wants that this deal wouldn't grant him and they want to do exactly what Dracula pretended he wanted to do to keep Hector around. Isaac is on a journey of self discovery, realizing that what he worked towards with Dracula may not be what he wants his story to be. Hector seems to be getting exactly what he wanted the whole time now.
Like, I think Hector is that brand of self aware and smart that's also super people dumb at the same time. He recognizes that physically he's a weak man in a world of monsters and the only skill that he can use to his advantage is making monsters. It's also a skill that would isolate him in the world of humans and something that these great and powerful vampires desire. From how he talked it seemed like he wanted to be a kept human. He even does the collar thing and all that when he could protest that shit easily with a "How could I be of any danger to you? you just kicked my ass without even a bit of effort".
I will say she had me fooled until the ring to (I figured her con was gonna be to try to have a half human baby with him to guarantee his loyalty). And I'm still kinda convinced that she does like him even if only as a pet. Given how she acts I figure she could get the sense that this is exactly what he wanted, to be a kept human. Or hell, maybe she truly just wants a solid partnership and some type of relationship with him and knows that the ring is the only way to make that happen as it puts her sisters at enough ease to allow him to be treated this way. She loudly tells everyone "yeah, I fucked him and Imma do it again! He's gonna be able to roam freely and sometimes come in here with us!" right in front of him.
Not sure how real any of her feelings are for him but I never felt like he knew what he wanted beyond special treatment and to not be vampire food.
Like, I think Hector is that brand of self aware and smart that's also super people dumb at the same time. He recognizes that physically he's a weak man in a world of monsters and the only skill that he can use to his advantage is making monsters. It's also a skill that would isolate him in the world of humans and something that these great and powerful vampires desire. From how he talked it seemed like he wanted to be a kept human. He even does the collar thing and all that when he could protest that shit easily with a "How could I be of any danger to you? you just kicked my ass without even a bit of effort".
I will say she had me fooled until the ring to (I figured her con was gonna be to try to have a half human baby with him to guarantee his loyalty). And I'm still kinda convinced that she does like him even if only as a pet. Given how she acts I figure she could get the sense that this is exactly what he wanted, to be a kept human. Or hell, maybe she truly just wants a solid partnership and some type of relationship with him and knows that the ring is the only way to make that happen as it puts her sisters at enough ease to allow him to be treated this way. She loudly tells everyone "yeah, I fucked him and Imma do it again! He's gonna be able to roam freely and sometimes come in here with us!" right in front of him.
Not sure how real any of her feelings are for him but I never felt like he knew what he wanted beyond special treatment and to not be vampire food.
Finished Season 3. Loved it, except its such a downer ending.
Sypha and Trevor leaving to a nomadic life. Carmilla and sisters planning new conquests with hector intow. Alucard becoming more like his father, betrayal and all. And Issac with new ambitions and friends?
My heart sank when I heard that line.
because it meant Hector will never be Lenore's equal. She will always have that collar on his neck. Well, until he eventually rebels and causes the sisters downfall.
Been thinking about it and I think I'm gonna run that back.
I think she's doing this cause she wants to pull a power play on her sisters and has some real affection for him. I remember how she says people underestimate her because of how she does things which seems like it can be applied to how her sisters see her as well.
I've read people pointing out that she brings up how she ease-dropped to find out that her sisters are planning to hire sell swords. This information means that he is no longer needed for their plans so at some point someones gonna kill him as none of them trust him. So knowing this she does the only thing that will save his life, show them that she has control over him and his monsters and that there's nothing to fear.
She makes the sexual nature of their relationship known in front of all AND places demands on his behalf. The line about "real people are talking" could be spoken to farther sell the idea that (though she's making him an equal to them to an extent with her demands) she's still very much in the "haha, this is just an animal to me" camp.
I think these rings are gonna come into play later when she makes her move against the others.
I've read people pointing out that she brings up how she ease-dropped to find out that her sisters are planning to hire sell swords. This information means that he is no longer needed for their plans so at some point someones gonna kill him as none of them trust him. So knowing this she does the only thing that will save his life, show them that she has control over him and his monsters and that there's nothing to fear.
She makes the sexual nature of their relationship known in front of all AND places demands on his behalf. The line about "real people are talking" could be spoken to farther sell the idea that (though she's making him an equal to them to an extent with her demands) she's still very much in the "haha, this is just an animal to me" camp.
I think these rings are gonna come into play later when she makes her move against the others.
Is this a JoJo reference?
Memes aside.
The infinite corridor is huge setup for the #bootlegmultiverse thing that they are planning to do. We already know the crossover with Devil May Cry and Dante is happening. The question is whether the Assassins Creed and Hyper Light Drifter shows he is planning will also tie in.
The Infinite Corridor is something Warren Ellis thought was really fucking cool when he was doing research for the show and plays well to his sensibilities as a writer if you're aware of his past works. Also what DMC cross over? I know they're making an animated series but based on the games but what are you talking about?
Devil May Cry Series Joins Castlevania in New Multiverse from Adi Shankar - IGN
Castlevania's executive producer, Adi Shankar, reveals that an animated Devil May Cry series is in the works.
Story broke ages ago in 2018, pretty old news tbh. The Infinite Corridor is a obscure bit of Castlevania lore that plays well into this plan.
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Devil May Cry Series Joins Castlevania in New Multiverse from Adi Shankar - IGN
Castlevania's executive producer, Adi Shankar, reveals that an animated Devil May Cry series is in the works.uk.ign.com
Story broke ages ago. The Infinite Corridor is a obscure bit of Castlevania lore that plays well into this plan.
That was a misunderstanding. It's not actually a multiverse. It's just Shankar's way of saying these are his collective works that he produces.
"will join Castlevania in what we're now calling the bootleg multiverse."
"let the speculation begin, you can read into that all you want"
Not sure how that can be read any other way.
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It's a sequel to his: "Bootleg Universe" which was stuff like Punisher: Dirty Laundry, Power/Rangers, and more. None of which were connected.
It's just a branding thing. His Assassin's Creed and Hyper Light Drifer series they're working on are also part of it. But I doubt that Ubisoft would want AC to cross over with Devil May Cry and Castlevania or even Hyper Light Drifter of all things.
Overall I'd give this season an 8.5/10.
It was a little slow, and some of the dialogue wasn't great (I've never been a huge fan of Warren Ellis when he's trying to be funny or witty because he botches it as often as he nails it IMO), but the plot was pretty enjoyable, the animation and art design were great, and I loved seeing the character development everyone had. I also ended up liking St. Germaine and his scenes way more than I expected.
It was a little slow, and some of the dialogue wasn't great (I've never been a huge fan of Warren Ellis when he's trying to be funny or witty because he botches it as often as he nails it IMO), but the plot was pretty enjoyable, the animation and art design were great, and I loved seeing the character development everyone had. I also ended up liking St. Germaine and his scenes way more than I expected.
Sypha and Trevor's romantic relationship seemed to come out of nowhere after the end of Season 2, but I liked that their interactions were sweet without being too "lovey dovey." It's clear that despite the occasional argument they deeply care for each other, as shown by Trevor's reactions whenever Sypha's in danger and how playful, comfortable, and fiercely loyal she is to him. I also thought Isaac's story line was pretty good, with him gathering an army of demons, interacting with a few humans that make him rethink his plan to carry out Dracula's wishes, that awesome battle with the old Magician and Legion, and gaining a few magical artifacts for his eventual confrontation with Carmilla's crew and Hector.
For me, the weakest storyline this season was definitely Hector's. It was always clear that Lenore was going to screw him over in some way, and no matter how charming or seductive she might have been I'm surprised that Hector ever thought running away together was a viable option. He was understandably skeptical and knew exactly what they were trying to do up until she called him "pretty" and slept with him. How is he that much of a fool? I also thought the scenes of Carmilla's "sisters" plotting how to build an empire were pretty boring, though I understand it's meant to be the set up for next season.
Alucard's storyline with the two Japanese vampire hunters was also a little slow, but it was a sweet look at Alucard dealing with his loneliness and trying to make new friends who eventually betray him and explain his disappearance until what I assume will be the Symphony of The Night adaptation. It was a real gut punch to see how much he enjoyed their company, and how much he was enjoying that threesome, only for them to betray him and force him into becoming more like his father.
Lastly, this season also had some really hype battle moments. Sypha had the best kills for the most part, but my favorite moment had to be when Trevor was struggling while battling the Soul Beast, that ominous church organ tune started playing, and he busted out the old whip for a Vampire Killer/Morning Star dual wield and eventual item crash.
For me, the weakest storyline this season was definitely Hector's. It was always clear that Lenore was going to screw him over in some way, and no matter how charming or seductive she might have been I'm surprised that Hector ever thought running away together was a viable option. He was understandably skeptical and knew exactly what they were trying to do up until she called him "pretty" and slept with him. How is he that much of a fool? I also thought the scenes of Carmilla's "sisters" plotting how to build an empire were pretty boring, though I understand it's meant to be the set up for next season.
Alucard's storyline with the two Japanese vampire hunters was also a little slow, but it was a sweet look at Alucard dealing with his loneliness and trying to make new friends who eventually betray him and explain his disappearance until what I assume will be the Symphony of The Night adaptation. It was a real gut punch to see how much he enjoyed their company, and how much he was enjoying that threesome, only for them to betray him and force him into becoming more like his father.
Lastly, this season also had some really hype battle moments. Sypha had the best kills for the most part, but my favorite moment had to be when Trevor was struggling while battling the Soul Beast, that ominous church organ tune started playing, and he busted out the old whip for a Vampire Killer/Morning Star dual wield and eventual item crash.
He words suggest he was purposely inviting speculation. So I will wait and see, I have seen nothing to suggest it was a misinterpretation.
Twisted need for order, maybe?
That was funny AND horrifying.
At least in the games they seemed very random about making him an actual boss versus a generic mook. He also never seemed to be as powerful as he should be, so I'm curious where they'd go with it.
I assume to get back home?
It was weird. It was super obvious she was playing him but then the twist was not just how BUT that she actually did care for him in her own way.
I do wonder what Hector had to gain by refusing to comply after she showed some degree of compassion. His monsters follow him, so if he agreed to go along with their plans in exchange for his security, there's not much they could do to renege (until Lenore did her ring ploy)
I do wonder what Hector had to gain by refusing to comply after she showed some degree of compassion. His monsters follow him, so if he agreed to go along with their plans in exchange for his security, there's not much they could do to renege (until Lenore did her ring ploy)
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We never got the S2 soundtrack. So I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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Yup.
The amazing Bloody Tears rendition in Episode 7 of that season is still has no clean version. Only edits trying to reduce voices/sounds.
Im currently on season 1. I heard the third season got 10 out of 10 from ign, so i have decided to give it a chance. So is it me or the japanese audio sounds better?
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Most wouldn't know. Nearly everyone watches in English on here.
The Japanese version doesn't have Jason Isaacs or Bill Nighy, so no. Also I just can not imagine Sypha without her accent.
i liked this season even if nothing much is really going on, it's mostly there to set up season 4, which should end this new arc hopefully
The Sypha and Trevor relationship is a highlight of the season over the otherwise depressing and dark characters and events happening all the time.
I'm a bit confused by people saying the relationship between Trevor and Sypha was a surprise or took them off guard... Wasn't it shown and stated clearly at the end of Season 2 that they were falling for one another and beginning a relationship when on the wagon after the fight with Dracula? I felt like they were quite natural and the relationship was handled fairly well with the right amount of playfulness and differences you'd find yourself in after a few month dating.
I know at least my wife and I fought night demons together one month into our relationship, or drunk farmers in the weekend as we call them here in Norway.
I know at least my wife and I fought night demons together one month into our relationship, or drunk farmers in the weekend as we call them here in Norway.
Just finished it. Episode 9 was glorious. Best episode in the entire show so far.
God damn Hector
My least favorite part is
God damn Hector
He's always getting screwed. He's so gullible also
My least favorite part is
the Alucard arc with the 2 japanese warriors. I saw it coming from a mile away and their motivation was pretty weak. They added nothing to the show except maybe to make Alucard evil?. That part just sucked
Also was their vampire they were serving ever shown before? Don't remember if she was in season 2
Also was their vampire they were serving ever shown before? Don't remember if she was in season 2
My question about the guy who looks after the town
So the guy who was looking after the town was in on making the sacrifices for the night creature? He wanted everyone to be home to burn into flames, and used the children who died in the spikes as sacrifices?
Lenore speculation
was it ever said they wear the rings willingly? It seems odd to have 5 vampire women coexist peacefully and of their own free will. Whatever mutual interest they may have shared when donning the rings for the first time might not be as appealing to Lenore as it once was. She may feel for Hector but her objective could be to dominate the other 4 or to break her bond with them.
No he was a serial killer in his own right. That was his "little pleasures" from the job. His excuse was to keep order over the town. That is why he had beef with the priory because they didn't follow HIS rules. He had no idea about the sacrifices and would have never have allowed them to happen.
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Alucard didn't become evil. His whole arc in Season 3 is to show that he hasn't actually matured into a full person yet. He still very much a child in an adults body whose development has been stifle by his mothers death and fathers turn to carnage. Then after Sypha and Trevor left he was all alone with no human connection and so wanted desperately to get that connection from the two new arrivals and completely misunderstanding what they really wanted.
And now because of that them he nearly died and now questioning himself if it's worth even trying to be part of humanity.
And now because of that them he nearly died and now questioning himself if it's worth even trying to be part of humanity.
Were they actually being honest near the end? I don't understand their motivations whatsoever.
"You're like all the rest. You won't give us everything we want right away." The hell was that about? Alucard was nothing but gracious and selfless, much more than they deserved. Talk about entitlement. Since they were so transparently persistent about wanting to move the castle, I'm guessing their true motivations weren't really revealed. At least, I hope so. I don't know if they were actually still serving Cho or something.
I really disliked those two characters, overall, and didn't find them sympathetic at all.
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I mean it's quite simple really. On their whole journey to Europe they were lied and cheated by those that promised to help them. They're worried that some new vampire will take over while they're gone so they want to use the castle (which would bring along all it's knowledge as well) to warp it back to Japan to teach everyone they suffered along with. Alucard never got any sense of urgency or at the very least didn't quite understand.
After all Alucard's only friends were Trevor and Sypha and he only knew them for days before they left for a month. He doesn't pick up on a lot of things and is overly reserved himself. So he ended up coming across like he was hiding stuff from them on purpose and lying just like the people along the road did to them.
They did overreact but I sort of get what lead them to that point.
After all Alucard's only friends were Trevor and Sypha and he only knew them for days before they left for a month. He doesn't pick up on a lot of things and is overly reserved himself. So he ended up coming across like he was hiding stuff from them on purpose and lying just like the people along the road did to them.
They did overreact but I sort of get what lead them to that point.
This season is pretty mediocre. On a good note, the fight choreography was amazing and I like Isaac's arc.
I get it, but I really feel like the writing didn't justify it well enough for me.
They were being oddly friendly and playful from the start, which felt like a stark contrast of what I would have expected after what they went through. They were suspiciously unsuspicious of Alucard, but I guess that made sense when they aggrandized him. But they also seemed to have no personal boundaries and had no issue demanding Alucard cooked more often for them.
Anyway, all that is irrelevant, I guess. I guess I would have expected them to be more grateful because of their history of being betrayed and finally meeting someone who didn't do so. I guess it just didn't really feel earned for me, or that the execution was really lacking and no longer made them seem like characters you should feel sorry for. I feel like there are other ways it could have bee approached without making them seem so annoying.
Anyway, all that is irrelevant, I guess. I guess I would have expected them to be more grateful because of their history of being betrayed and finally meeting someone who didn't do so. I guess it just didn't really feel earned for me, or that the execution was really lacking and no longer made them seem like characters you should feel sorry for. I feel like there are other ways it could have bee approached without making them seem so annoying.
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Just finished the 3rd season
Reminded me a lot of the 2nd. Slow with lots of peaks and valleys.
One thing I didn't like the most is all the monologues and by the numbers review of past events. There are legit amazing moments in this script but it gets seriously bogged down
Perfect example being the conversation between Isaac and the Ship Captain. Amazing dialogue payoffs but bogged down by length and amount of filler/exposition. I do appreciate spending more time in one scene and getting deep dives but unfortunately the script and engagement struggles to keep up. Im glad I toughed through some of the droning moments to get to the good stuff at least and there is good stuff aplenty this season
I would say if anything they just need to tighten the ship and be just a bit more liberal about editing things down to the best bits or if we are going to spend long dialog strings with characters give them something more interesting to say or do outside of repeating themselves or logging current events or relaying facts to the audience for the 11th time
Thats about it for my gripes. I really enjoyed all the arcs and characters this time around (well minus Alucards) and am looking forward to where this all leads.
Reminded me a lot of the 2nd. Slow with lots of peaks and valleys.
One thing I didn't like the most is all the monologues and by the numbers review of past events. There are legit amazing moments in this script but it gets seriously bogged down
Perfect example being the conversation between Isaac and the Ship Captain. Amazing dialogue payoffs but bogged down by length and amount of filler/exposition. I do appreciate spending more time in one scene and getting deep dives but unfortunately the script and engagement struggles to keep up. Im glad I toughed through some of the droning moments to get to the good stuff at least and there is good stuff aplenty this season
I would say if anything they just need to tighten the ship and be just a bit more liberal about editing things down to the best bits or if we are going to spend long dialog strings with characters give them something more interesting to say or do outside of repeating themselves or logging current events or relaying facts to the audience for the 11th time
Thats about it for my gripes. I really enjoyed all the arcs and characters this time around (well minus Alucards) and am looking forward to where this all leads.
Great season. S2 was better overall, but this season probably had the best dialogue/conversations yet.
Don't agree that it was filler, but definitely agree that it was largely setup for next season. But when the journey is so enjoyable, it doesn't bother me much.
Best new character was easily Lenore, and shout-out to the Captain side character as well, he was very intriguing for his brief amount of screentime.
Don't agree that it was filler, but definitely agree that it was largely setup for next season. But when the journey is so enjoyable, it doesn't bother me much.
Best new character was easily Lenore, and shout-out to the Captain side character as well, he was very intriguing for his brief amount of screentime.
Started skipping through those by the time Trevor was talking to his reflection
Yeah that was the benefit of having the whole season at my fingertips
I can skip ahead to the good stuff and ignore the filler
Agree with it being not as good as S1 and S2. I didn't like it was just set-up for a season 4 and Alucard doing his own thing didn't help since the shit-talking between him and Trevor were my favorite parts.
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For real lol.
Sometimes I feel it's more about just being able to say that you consumed it rather than if you actually enjoyed it.
What's point in watching something you just going skip through why waste your time doing it. It like person who said they skipped episodes 6 and 7 as they seemed be filler due to Netflix descriptions when they was most interesting episodes in whole season.
it's 10 episodes at barely 27 mins each if you can't be arsed watching it don't. You don't need watch a whole season at once or even at all your not being forced to
it's 10 episodes at barely 27 mins each if you can't be arsed watching it don't. You don't need watch a whole season at once or even at all your not being forced to