He had EVERY reason to believe she would turn on him, which is why they kept reprogramming her memories, telling her her dreams and visions were due to her "emotional weaknesses", routine trips to the Supreme Intelligence to convince her to discard them, etc. THEY are the ones that put a power suppressor on her to ensure she could NEVER cut loose and cause them harm. They were actively, constantly limiting her while trying to tell her that it was HER fault she hadn't tapped into her "true potential" (a carrot on a stick that she would never catch).
It was self-evident to her. He killed her mentor, kidnapped her, erased her history and identity, stole her life, brainwashed her into a killing machine for a sick war against refugees, and tried to make her believe all of it was for HER good. That's all spelled out in the movie; he doesn't deserve to "make his case" because "his case" was him telling her "fist fight me and prove you've grown into a REAL soldier" when the reality is... she's not a Kree soldier. She never was.
Fury is a perfect COUNTER to Yon-Rogg, because for all HIS authority and abilities, he helps her rekindle her humanity, respects her as an individual, and fully understands her powers are so far above him. They are a true partnership, NOT her and Yon-Rogg. Fury goes against his own people to help her because it's the right thing to do, and that empowers Carol to do the same.
First of all, annyone coming with that slaveowners can care and be compassionate towards the slaves bullshit the way you did can fuck right off.
After I took issue with this:
Just shows how little you get it and how screwed your thinking is.
I don't agree with this. I read this scene as that he was genuinely hurt that what he did for her was being taken for granted. Even at the beginning of the scene, after it's pretty clear that "Vers" has uncovered the truth about her past on Earth, when "Carol" is all business he cracks a joke about her caring about his well being instead.
We're really off-topic, so I'll just say that I disagree that the abuser cared about his victim.
There's absolutely nothing within the text of the film, whether underlying or surface-level, that suggests Yon Rogg had any level of actual affection towards Carol. Nor should there be, frankly. Because abusive power dynamics like that aren't based on affection. They're based on ownership, and Yon Rogg's own ambitions. There is no case to be made for him.
If he does care, it's the sick & twisted kind of "caring" that abusive people have towards their victims of abuse.
Well crazily enough there was this:
Back on track, that is a phenomenal number for just over two weeks.
I keep saying it, over and over, that if you told 10-year-younger me that a Captain Marvel movie would outgross a major Justice League movie globally in under two weeks, I've had laughed you out of the room.
There was never any "good" to begin with. Denvers was being manipulated by a manipulative, abusive asshole. You only perceive any good in there because of the initial context being portrayed as Danvers having been saved by the Kree & her now helping in defending a nation under attack, but all of that is just total & utter BS.
There was never any 'good' with Yon Rogg. He was always abusive. He was always manipulative. He was always creepy. All that's changed is you now have the awareness of what he's been doing to her all this time.
Me and my gf are taking her sister to see it this week. I'm probably most excited to see those little bits between Brie and Jude Law again with the new context in mind.
But why was he trying to suppress her powers, when if she had better control of them, she's EASILY win the war for the Knee? Think about that for a second.
Again, you're made to think he cares for her to start. But as the movie goes about its business, you begin to see how the entire time the Knee were gaslighting Carol. Then, when you go back and look at how they were treating her at the beginning, it's under the new context. This is how many abusive relationships can be seen as well, which is the whole point of the analogy being made with the movie. Sure, from one perspective, it could look like Yon-Rogg is a caring mentor figure. Burr once you've got all the info from the back half of the movie, you now know that's just a facade to get what he wants. It's all rather obvious, really.
It's not even so much about biases. Some times people just don't see what's obvious to others. It's okay when that happens, but you should have enough self awareness to be able to see that, and not be too prideful to change your perspective.
Back on track, that is a phenomenal number for just over two weeks.
I keep saying it, over and over, that if you told 10-year-younger me that a Captain Marvel movie would outgross a major Justice League movie globally in under two weeks, I've had laughed you out of the room.
