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Patitoloco

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Oct 27, 2017
23,646
Weren't RE7's initial sales tagged as "disappointing?" I remember that being a huge issue even if the game cost a lot less to make than RE6.

No matter, I'm glad it sold that high now. I really enjoyed that game and brought me back to the Resident Evil franchise so it's great to see people picking it up.
Well, Capcom talked about how they expected more sales in the initial launch period, but later (a year later or so) they talked about how they misinterpreted the data, and how the industry has changed into way more steady period of sales instead of just focusing in the first months, like when the industry was physical based first.

It has been definitely a big success for Capcom.
 

Sesha

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Oct 25, 2017
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Also pretty cool to see UMvC3 sell another mil on current gen consoles.



Which makes DmC:DE's sales look even worse in comparison.

Anyway, now we wait for DMC5:SE

To be fair, DmC DE retailed at a higher initial price at $40 vs. 4SE's $25, and it didn't get a PC version or a release in Asia. Being a more recent game doesn't necessarily help either.
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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After seeing those numbers I'm convinced that the Alpha series is ahead of SFV now. I still don't think it's by much though as they probably didn't do as well in the west as they did in Japan.

It's too bad that they're too lazy to track sales for a lot of their older games. Alpha 2 should definitely be on the Platinum list for example.
Some old PS1 US numbers from NPD (from 2003)

PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 3 351,447
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 2 116,319
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 143,809

I'm not quite convinced the Alpha series sold close to five million on consoles.
 
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Naga

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but later (a year later or so) they talked about how they misinterpreted the data, and how the industry has changed into way more steady period of sales instead of just focusing in the first months, like when the industry was physical based first.
Got a link to that?
That's a weird interpretation, especially when RE7 started selling past their initial expectations only when it got big price drops.
 

Kain

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Oct 27, 2017
7,603
Okami's sales are not so bad all in all. It should've sold triple that at least but it seems it made a profit eventually.
 

NDA-Man

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Mar 23, 2020
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Im pretty sure capcom themselves said they were happy with the sales of RE3 remake. Plus the game is pretty close to how the original did and it will probably surpass it in the future. Happy to see SFV still doing well. I still remember back in 2016 when people said the game would die after evo 2016 lmao

Per their investor advice released earlier this week it was that, based off how the original did in comparison to the original RE2, RE3r's sales did not "especially deviate" from what they expected of it. So they figured it wouldn't sell as well from the start and budgeted accordingly, apparently.
 

Fdkn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Old SF iterations consisted on selling the same game many times to the same people. Adding them up makes no sense in terms of userbase because it got reset with each revision.

Meanwhile you only needed to buy sfV once and keep buying dlc for it (or earning the characters for free). The potential (obviously not every owner is still playing) audience to play at any time is the full 4.7M sales
 
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RE5 Wesker is one of the best villains ever.

Still convinced he's not dead. #HeDodgedTheRPGs
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's good to see SF5 doing well. The game started at a bad place but now it is one of the best in the series. Up there with Alpha 2 (or 3 Max if you like SP) and Third Strike.

RE7 too deserves all the sales it has. It brought the series to the roots while giving us an interesting camera change. Hopefully RE8 lives up to it.
 

takriel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can't wait for RE8 and the RE4 Remake. Would love to see Dragon's Dogma 2 on next-gen consoles as well.
 

Alienhated

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Oct 25, 2017
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Alpha 2 sold 900k in Japan Alone , Alpha 1 did 500k. Remember SF Series sales was over 30m even before SF4 released. I think the Alpha series would easily be 5m+. The problem is they were spread out across so many platforms and SKUs that the only individual entry that crossed 1m is the Launch SKU of the PS1 version. I don't think SF3 or EX series topped 1m tho. Maybe along with 3SOE it might have.

These are Japanese sales figures.

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Jesus, no wonder we got so many fighing games in the 90s.
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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Some old PS1 US numbers from NPD (from 2003)

PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 3 351,447
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 2 116,319
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 143,809

I'm not quite convinced the Alpha series sold close to five million on consoles.
Those aren't final sales but from Dec 2002 NPD. Not including Saturn, SNES or GBC releases at the time but it did have DC too and future Alpha games would release on GBA, PS2 and PSP.

STREET FIGHTER ALPHA (PSX) ・02/1996 ・7 ・143,809
STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 2 (PSX) ・10/1996 ・0 ・116,319
STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 3 (PSX) ・05/1999 ・9,791 ・346,309
STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 3 (DC) ・05/2000 ・113 ・69,027
SUPER SF2 COLLECTION (PSX) ・12/1997 ・0 ・96,641 (includes Alpha 2 Gold)

Famitsu though puts total sales for the Alpha games around 2.35m sold through. That's a strong 2nd in the region though for SF (SFII > SFZ > SFIV > SFIII > SFV > SF).
 

Naga

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Yes, I know, my point is that I'm not going to google through the last 5 years of earnings call to find it. If you find it cool, if not you can choose to believe it or not lol
I searched for it, and only thing I can find is this on April 2017, and it sounds like what you were talking about:
What is your take on the unit sales performance for Resident Evil 7 biohazard (Resident Evil 7 below) and Monster Hunter XX (Double Cross) as of the end of FY 2016?

1. As of the end of the fiscal year, Resident Evil 7 shipped 3.5 million units, and Monster Hunter XX (Double Cross) shipped 1.7 million units. It is a solid start, considering the short span between launch and fiscal year end. Further, unit sales for both titles continue to grow even now.
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3. The lifecycle for games is growing longer, driven by ongoing digital sales; as a result, Resident Evil 4, 5 and 6 have each sold more than 7.5 to 10 million units cumulatively (including catalog and re-release sales). As such, we will work to achieve 10 million cumulative lifetime unit sales for Resident Evil 7 as well.

It's not exactly what you've said, but it's similar enough I guess. They don't really talk about RE7 in other Q&As afterwards.
 

Quinton

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yes sadly they are lower than recent RE games.

Resident Evil 2 (2019) did 4.2 millions in its first 3 months.
Resident Evil 7 did 3.5 millions in its first 3 months.

In comparison, RE3 has done noticeably less.
They're lower than RE2's which shipped about 4 millions on the first month. But it's not really surprising considering its reception was way less than that of RE2. Full price for 4~6 hours game is a hard sell.

Thanks, you two! That's what I figured. But I'm not always up-to-date with all things Capcom, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something here.
 

dlauv

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Oct 27, 2017
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Glad horror RE and a camera change up are doing so well. I'd say I hope it encourages more experimentation, but they've done plenty of that over the years and some of it was awful (but given a fraction of the budget). Hyped for RE8 to shake up the gameplay even more.
 
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Shadoken

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some old PS1 US numbers from NPD (from 2003)

PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 3 351,447
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 2 116,319
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 143,809

I'm not quite convinced the Alpha series sold close to five million on consoles.


Thats doesn't include multiple Alpha SKUs,platforms and other regions. Some where it was even published by different companies.
The Japan sales alone put Alpha series at 2.35m , and thats without GBA,PS2..etc.


IIRC The franchise series sales were close to 26m before SFIV came out. Now ofc SF2 is the biggest piece of that pie , but even being really generous I think it would have reached 20m at best.
 

SlasherMcGirk

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Oct 27, 2017
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What's the reason that Capcom is one of the only publishers that release detailed sales numbers like this? I like it and am genuinely curious? It take balls to leave detailed reports like they do.
 

Theworld

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Aug 6, 2020
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What's the reason that Capcom is one of the only publishers that release detailed sales numbers like this? I like it and am genuinely curious? It take balls to leave detailed reports like they do.

One of the rare publisher that understand that being so secretive about their numbers serve no purpose. Nintendo is close.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
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Monster Hunter World sales never cease to astound me. I took the biggest L ever thinking it wouldn't do 10m lololol.
 

Lepi

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Mar 24, 2020
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Glad to see a return to actual horror has proven to be a good move. Hopefully they decide that approach is best for the future. It is a pretty good game.
 

residentgrigo

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Oct 30, 2019
3,726
Germany
Capcom did it. RE6 hit its sales expectations on last-gen! All 7 million of them.
www.destructoid.com

Resident Evil 6 fails to meet sales projections ... again

But overall numbers are looking good for Capcom Capcom originally projected that Resident Evil 6 would sell seven million copies....
Way late and not at full price but their fever dream predictions still came true. It's even this close to reaching 10 million and maybe even overtaking RE4. The difference is only 0.4 million. I still think that it´s the most self-defeating AAA sequel on last-gen but it´s a solid 6.5/10. A 6/10 in single-player and a 7/10 in co-op.
It's not even the worst mainline game. That is Revelations 1. 2 million copies there.

And single-gen champion RE7? Its Gold version is the best game in the series after REmake 1 and king of kings RE4 HD. REmake 2 is right below RE7 Gold.
RE7´s sales target will easily be reached when next-gen and RE8 hit:
www.gamesindustry.biz

Resident Evil 7 gets 10 million sales target

Resident Evil 7 fell short of its initial sales forecast, but Capcom has high hopes for the survival game to enjoy a he…
REmake 4 has quite the legacy to live up to. Even sales-wise.

Edit: RE5 outsells RE7 when the last-gen Gold edition is counted. I take it back. Poor Performance Indeed and RE5 Gold is quite good of course.
You are so bad with lists Capcom.
 
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ACL

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Nov 18, 2017
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These overinflated unit numbers makes it clear that with easy distribution, bargain bin prices and bundles a mere units "shipped" comparison is getting less informative compared to past generations, and that going forward a revenue based comparison will actually clarify the picture.
 

residentgrigo

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Oct 30, 2019
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RE1 had 3 versions on the PSX and reached the Saturn, PC, the DS and nearly the GBC ACL. It was easily distributed bargain bin central and was even part of a bundle. RE1 thus hits all 3 of your marks. RE2 even reached the Game.com.
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And who can forget Street Fighter 2? Holy shit. Your argument holds no water outside of digital being more profitable than physical and all sorts of the modern Capcom games had DLC. Outbreak nearly had DLC. That´s how far ahead Capcom was on that front...
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Some old PS1 US numbers from NPD (from 2003)

PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 3 351,447
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 2 116,319
PSX STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 143,809

I'm not quite convinced the Alpha series sold close to five million on consoles.
Was Alpha a big disappointment back then? I mean, SF2 was one of the most successful games of all time. In the arcade alone it made them billions. Looking at these numbers from that perspective...
 

leder

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have to assume that the continued strong sales of RE7 was one of the main things that made them switch tracks from Village being a spinoff to being RE8.
 

Shadoken

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Oct 25, 2017
4,206
Was Alpha a big disappointment back then? I mean, SF2 was one of the most successful games of all time. In the arcade alone it made them billions. Looking at these numbers from that perspective...

I don't think people attribute it to Alpha. Rather all 2D Fighters ( or 2D Games in general ) started losing sales and players to 3D Fighters. Alpha was still the best selling 2D fighter of its time. Even Capcom were investing in other games like SF EX due to the shift to 3D. Alpha was still able to perform really well in Japan , but the rest of the world had jumped ship to 3D ( at least on consoles ).

Now SF3 on the other hand performed horrible by any measure. Performing worse than most of the other popular 2D Fighters in the market like MvC,CvS,GG.
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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These overinflated unit numbers makes it clear that with easy distribution, bargain bin prices and bundles a mere units "shipped" comparison is getting less informative compared to past generations, and that going forward a revenue based comparison will actually clarify the picture.
The issue from a comparison perspective is the constant change in accounting methods with no effort to reconcile historical numbers to them. With PS360 it was suddenly combining platforms, then mid gen bolting on digital sales (sometimes), then this gen combining SKUs and reprints and now even selectively adding later platforms or DLC even. There's really no rhyme or reason anymore.

If say SF2 had the same standards retroactively applied to it that games like RE7, MHW or MHGU benefit from, it's sales would likely be well north of 20m.
 
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Soap

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Oct 27, 2017
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I know RE has always been a sttong franchise for cap imo, but it is amazing they now have one series with equally viable types of gameplay but different enough that they feel fresh
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why'd RE3make sell so much less than 2?

I know it came out one year later, but still doesn't look like it's gonna be close to catching up
 

Shark

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Oct 28, 2017
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Why'd RE3make sell so much less than 2?

I know it came out one year later, but still doesn't look like it's gonna be close to catching up
It's a very tough recommend at $60 if you only care about single player stuff since there just isn't a ton there. Resistance being included is only a value add for a select few and irrelevant for most.
 

Sesha

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why'd RE3make sell so much less than 2?

I know it came out one year later, but still doesn't look like it's gonna be close to catching up

Too soon, lower reviews, too short, not as fresh, ambitious or as good as RE2 (or even 7), less marketing than RE2. It's hard to say how much those played a role, but they're possible factors.
 

Tttssd1972

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May 24, 2019
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Legit think RE2R might end up being the best selling RE game of all time. Especially if (fingers crossed for when) they release an upgraded version for next gen consoles. Hell, I would buy it all over again to just have to play through it all the times to unlock everything. Fucking love that game.
 

SuperBoss

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm so happy that RE7 sold so well. It's a fantastic game and deserves the sales. Very hyped for RE8!
 

Keym

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Oct 26, 2017
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Surprised to see Dead Rising 4 selling that much.

Also pleasantly surprised to see DmC's sales. Too bad that version of the series is most likely 100% dead.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Why'd RE3make sell so much less than 2?

I know it came out one year later, but still doesn't look like it's gonna be close to catching up

The original isn't as fondly remembered as the original 2. It came out too soon after the remake of 2. And it came out a week before FFVIIR. I imagine a lot of people who bought REmake 2 based on their nostalgia for PS1 had their RE fill with that game and moved onto FFVIIR for the next nostalgia fix. Then the reviews probably killed the interest those who were on the fence and convinced them to hold out another week for the other remake.