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Canadian Election 2019 |OT| One Long Year of Scheer Stupidity [Update: Liberal Minority Government]
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Yup. And they're pro-Trump because Trump is anti-CCP. ANYTHING that disadvantages the Chinese government is considered the greatest thing ever to them, with no consideration for the harm it does elsewhere.
Yeah guys, is anyone else's anxiety shooting through the roof right now?
I've decided that I'm probably not going to be watching the results live because of it. I don't even know if I should stick around in this thread. It's just, like so much is at stake, I'm not even voting for the party that I want to vote for, vote-splitting is a thing...
I've decided that I'm probably not going to be watching the results live because of it. I don't even know if I should stick around in this thread. It's just, like so much is at stake, I'm not even voting for the party that I want to vote for, vote-splitting is a thing...
Gino Gaudreau@GaudreauGino
5:51 PM - Oct 20, 2019
5:51 PM - Oct 20, 2019
In 2015, you projected 137 for @parti_liberal ... they finished at 184... so really... what credibitlity this have....? #polcan
5:51 PM - Oct 20, 2019
Bryan Breguet@2closetocallyes 2015 was a bad year for my model. Multiple factors that I hope I corrected. I haven't had such a miss since then
5:51 PM - Oct 20, 2019
So if the Liberals get ~160
And the Bloc and NDP each get ~25
What realistically happens next?
And the Bloc and NDP each get ~25
What realistically happens next?
mainstreet's seat projection.
85 seats for the liberals in ontaro
29 for the conservatives in ontario
And 7 for the ndp.
85 seats for the liberals in ontaro
29 for the conservatives in ontario
And 7 for the ndp.
I can't wait for Breguet to get exposed late tomorrow night
The Liberals either try to form a minority government and only need either the NDP or Bloc to vote yes, or they form a formal coalition with the NDP.
The Liberals are still the government. They enter into a formal coalition with the NDP, or more likely just carry on with their agenda because they know the NDP and BQ will support it.
they try to make a deal with either the bloc or NDP
probably the NDP
but they can run as a minority and just live and die in the confidence of the other parties
and it bothers me that it's no longer Mike_Works
The one thing that is incredibly frustrating when I try to engage the wider Chinese community is that there's no room for nuance when it comes to political discourse.
It also doesn't help that there's a pervasive chauvinistic/exceptional attitude, such that they will vote in anti-immigration policies despite being immigrants themselves.
Coalition of chaos!
By which I mean it's pretty obvious the LPC goes for the NDP's support over the sovereignists. If it's not a direct coalition then at least they'll try to work out support on a bill-to-bill basis.
He leans Bloc/CPC and has a classic Quebec Nationaliste opinion on hating Liberals
Typical JdM trope
Just quoting this again for posterity.. lol @ a literal tie ~4hrs before election day.
The liberals have a big advantage in the east unless thing go really wrong this advantage will help them get more than 150 seats.
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Everybody with election anxiety should go watch The Beaverton Mocks the Vote special. I just watched it, and it made me laugh out loud so many times! It was so great!
i am not seeing this swell of conservative support that the media keeps pushing down our throats. no way this election is as close as they are making it out to be.
Libs will lose some seats for sure but unless the greens are doing some voodoo and the NDP are rigging ballots, i still see liberal majority. conservative gains in places that already vote conservative wont be that helpful to them.
Not by such a wide margin as before but still majority.
Libs will lose some seats for sure but unless the greens are doing some voodoo and the NDP are rigging ballots, i still see liberal majority. conservative gains in places that already vote conservative wont be that helpful to them.
Not by such a wide margin as before but still majority.
It would be a majority if not for the zombie BQ, but as it stands I'm guessing strong minority unless something funky happens in close ridings.
Well, if they're in the Praries or Quebec, they are not allowed to make fun of us.
Thanks for the feedback. I was just wondering if there was any semi-realistic chance that they might form a coalition with the Bloc, and what that might mean (since separation obviously wouldn't be on the table).
Any guesses as to whether a minority Liberal government is more or less realistic than a coalition with the NDP?
The only possibility White Rock flips would be from CPC to PPC ah ha ha ha haaaaa.........
I'd say it depends on how strong the minority is. If they're a few seats off of majority, they'd probably just roll with it. A weak minority they would likely seek coalition.
Bloc has a lot of asks and I'm not sure what they could push through. They want provincial free trade, which trudeau is for anyways. They want to control their immigration which is a complicated thing and something I highly doubt the liberals would allow. They don't want pipelines and don't want their carbon tax touched... which I don't think is a big issue lol
With the Bloc you're never truly sure what they'll want until you ask. It's a provincial centric party so there's always the risk of them holding you hostage as they don't care about the national side. Trudeau in power is beneficial to Quebec anyways so they'd be risking their future governing power by crossing him.
This is why NDP is the more logical choice for a coalition, though the issue there is their terms (like no TMX pipeline) are too steep, especially if the rumor that TMX was a partial poison pill with Harper agreement with China is true. they'll probably just risk running as a minority but that sucks because I really really really want the next election to take place after the next electoral redistricting, not before.
Noooo lol. That's not possible. It's LPC right now! But that was an extenuating circumstance. It'll likely go back to the status quo of CPC :(
Ontario is hopeless
Until tomorrow proves otherwise. If not, yeah...hopeless
Bloc can't form a collation with the Liberals because the Liberals want to protect Revenue Canada jobs in Quebec that the Bloc and CPC are threatening with the reparation of Revenue Canada to Revenue Quebec. That is a big irreconcilable for the Liberals.
Oh yeah, forgot that they wanted to collect federal income taxes themselves under the guise of "simpler returns"
That's a red flag for anyone lol
Feel free to always make fun of those that actually voted for the moron, though.
the worst is that the CPC is okay with this for short-term electoral expediancy
CPC are trash not thinking about the future of the Federation
FIPA is the real reason why they're signing off on all these projects in BC. If it wasn't and they just wanted more pipelines, then the Libs would've pushed for Keystone XL(was 100% possible during Trump's first two years in office) and sure why not, Energy East in Quebec, because Justin just loves pipelines.
I think he's a few seats shy of 1997. Still, if his numbers hold it's impressive considering SNC/Blackface. I posted the seat projection earlier.
EKOS was hinting towards a majority. I wish they'd soften their words, as it's not as easy with the Bloc surge. Also, tossups rule the country. A single shift the wrong way and the Libs could easily lose 20 seats.
Expect a minorty result tomorrow.
Interesting article from the star.
He was the "Newton point to 1997" guy, he's walking back on that slightly but still projects 162 for liberals tomorrow and thinks a Liberal Majority is about as likely as a Conservative plurality.
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