This data man, literally despair to joy in the matter of minutes.
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The toll that has on someone
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The toll that has on someone
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Canadian Election 2019 |OT| One Long Year of Scheer Stupidity [Update: Liberal Minority Government]
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One of the big parties will consolidate voters in the next week and win. My bet it is the Liberals that will do that.
The last week of elections are really rough. You have data and polls flying at you from every direction.
That's why it's important to know the quality of the sources of information.
You guys spend way too much time and make way too big a deal out of election polls, even outside election season. Remember all the panic surrounding when the CPC was in the 40% range? When people thought that the utter goober Andrew Scheer would somehow be able to hold onto a massive lead that he didn't even earn, clearly didn't deserve and would inevitably piss away?
Yeah... polls are for campaign managers, the only ones worth reading as the average citizen are in the final days of the election, otherwise, you're on a rollercoaster of your own design.
Yeah... polls are for campaign managers, the only ones worth reading as the average citizen are in the final days of the election, otherwise, you're on a rollercoaster of your own design.
I love that word Reeeefoooooorm!
My first introduction to Canadian Politics was Air Farce.
I think they helped make Preston Manning a joke so he never got farther than the Opposition.
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Someone on r/personalfinancecnada made an interesting point (i of course ignore those hepped oN ppc and those crying about "socialist canada" lol):
NDP is traditionally backed by unions and their members, so in the case of a Liberal minority that is actually held up by NDP, the capital gains tax would not be popular at all so probably would not be implemented or pushed for (the redditor said the NDP only use this to bait the poor into voting for them). As union members actually have pensions or retirement accounts (in case you don't understand, well-performing retirement accounts have stock market portfolios, which means capital gains are a significant protion of their value). People who are established members, especially older ones, may also have stock with their employer and have enough spare income to try to put money into outside rrsps or taxable accounts to make up for funding shortfalls.
Is a capital gains tax actually going to go well if people know it will affect their retirement accounts?
I am also a union member and invest in the market outside of what pension I might get (it's not a lot!!), and I am smack dab median income (or bit below actually!), so of course this will affect me too. Though I'm happy if that means more healthcare and infrastructure for all even if I personally am covered, I also don't yet have that much to lose as I'm still young and have room to manoevre my financials or future plans. Isn't that a much harder sell and connection for most people otherwise?
Someone talk numbers and money to me! i lov numba and my current interest is early retirement lol.
NDP is traditionally backed by unions and their members, so in the case of a Liberal minority that is actually held up by NDP, the capital gains tax would not be popular at all so probably would not be implemented or pushed for (the redditor said the NDP only use this to bait the poor into voting for them). As union members actually have pensions or retirement accounts (in case you don't understand, well-performing retirement accounts have stock market portfolios, which means capital gains are a significant protion of their value). People who are established members, especially older ones, may also have stock with their employer and have enough spare income to try to put money into outside rrsps or taxable accounts to make up for funding shortfalls.
Is a capital gains tax actually going to go well if people know it will affect their retirement accounts?
I am also a union member and invest in the market outside of what pension I might get (it's not a lot!!), and I am smack dab median income (or bit below actually!), so of course this will affect me too. Though I'm happy if that means more healthcare and infrastructure for all even if I personally am covered, I also don't yet have that much to lose as I'm still young and have room to manoevre my financials or future plans. Isn't that a much harder sell and connection for most people otherwise?
Someone talk numbers and money to me! i lov numba and my current interest is early retirement lol.
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Omg that's so weird, I know who that is. I met him once, he was a friend of an ex of mine.
The fuck is this?
A simple message that needs to be repeated over and over.
Don't believe the hype.
I haven't followed polls in previous elections although after following them this election it seems a lot of those polled are those that watch cable news and are easily swayed by pundit opinions. That's if the results themselves aren't manufactured around media punditry to create more anxiety. lol Probably not, I'm sure pollsters are honest and have no self interest or outside motivations, political or otherwise, to satisfy the desires of those paying their bills(politicos and media companies). As for those polled, I'm sure they're well educated and sharp and any reflection of being swayed by the influence of punditry is simply coincidence.
This might be old and the twitter person trying to create controversy as the NDP just finally release a costed platform last Friday. 2 days ago.
I think the Greens are implying it's not COMPREHENSIVE or EVIDENCE-BASED enough if it isn't an old image.
I'm looking for an article that was on CTV yesterday where the NDP environment plan ranked 3rd behind the Liberals by an independent enviro group.
Difficult to find things critical of the NDP for some reason. lol
Visiting my folks in Ontario for thanksgiving and noticed an unsettling amount of PPC lawn signs just outside of Brampton in and around Caledon. Shocking but also kinda not at the same time.
Pandora's Box was opened. Even if we close it now the evil has already escaped
I've yet to see any PPC lawn signs, but definitely see a surprising amount of POC as PPC candidates.
100% factual without contextualization is misleading.
It almost seems as if the NDP have gone full Trumplican-style populist to win. No integrity to get as many votes as possible.
I am tired.
100% factual without contextualization is misleading.
It almost seems as if the NDP have gone full Trumplican-style populist to win. No integrity to get as many votes as possible.
The hell is this Freddy Krueger shit. If I die, I die. Bye no one. If I cared I bought you birthday gifts.
Nationally either you're in it for you or in it together.
I visited my parents for Thanksgiving and since I've been here, they've gotten 3 phonecalls, a text, and a visit by the local MP trying to get their vote. It's an actual battle here (Windsor West). Hasn't been nearly that bad for my area (London North).
Oh, the red are in good shape. Be joyous. Many in my riding and myself are supporting and voting Lib. Mostly because the candidate is excellent but also to make sure the Cons don't get a seat or the NDP vote splits it again so the Cons win.
This seems to be a common feeling with many around here except for the entrenched, but they'll likely never change even in the face of evidence. It's their party or no party. lol. So party on!
My spouse and I got our voting over with. Last election we were fortunate to be in the Edmonton Centre riding and felt like our votes mattered and got someone other than a Con elected. This time around we're in Edmonton West and it feels like no amount of strategic voting is going to help here.
Edmonton West is depressing. I'm going to vote sometime this week knowing full well it means absolutely nothing.
Edit: I'm actually Edmonton Riverbend. Got the riding confused with the Provincial riding lol
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It's funny that with Canada doing so well domestically and internationally in the current global state that people could consider the previous government and current Liberal lineup anything other than a roaring success.
Even little things like welcoming that young woman who was fleeing Saudi Arabia. To big things like being able to negotiate a satisfactory USMCA with a bellicose and dirty American administration.
Sure, there are things that could be better, especially with climate action. At least, they're pointed in the right direction. And our allies really like Chrystia Freeland.
They should be sat in a corner for a time out with instructions to take responsibility for themselves instead of pointing fingers.
Even little things like welcoming that young woman who was fleeing Saudi Arabia. To big things like being able to negotiate a satisfactory USMCA with a bellicose and dirty American administration.
Sure, there are things that could be better, especially with climate action. At least, they're pointed in the right direction. And our allies really like Chrystia Freeland.
Yeah, saw that after. Looks like a Dipper trying to play the righteous victim after party misbehavior gets called out.
They should be sat in a corner for a time out with instructions to take responsibility for themselves instead of pointing fingers.
Shocking. I'm not a huge proponent of an extension to Langley but it's better than nothing.
The Surrey Mayor is a dimwit
Abacus has Trudeau as the preferred PM over Scheer big time from NDP, Bloc and Green supporters so maybe they'll get worried and vote strategically....
Any idea what the trends are in our riding? I don't want to vote for the liberals but I think my best option is a strategic vote.
I think it's going to end up being really close between Anita and Abdul. Last election Anita won it, but Abdul still managed to get 19k/30% of the vote compared to Anita's 35k/55%.
That said, as we saw in the provincial election, when this riding splits, it splits hard and the Liberal vote more than halves, bringing the NDP up putting it in a super close three way race. Also speaking from the perspective of signs. Abdul has a lot of signs on people's lawns. Much more than the other parties combined. Which is worrying to me. Especially when combined with how much people are irrationally hating the Liberals.
All of this making me believe that it's going to be tight. Atleast enough that I didn't want to risk it.
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London West here, haven't gotten a single phone call from anyone or canvasser. It's strange, actually.
Although when the PCs called in 2015 and I laughed them off the phone, it probably put me on a list.
I'm in London, but in the Elgin-St Thomas riding. The only people who have come to our door are Conservative, but I don't think my riding is super heavily contested.
PPC signs on people's lawns have me hoping that the con vote gets split and it's a tighter race than usual. Still not very hopeful.
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