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Canada PoliERA |OT 2| Time Is a Flat Circle
- Thread starter Caz
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I don't care, I'm still going to Portugal, probably will have less annoying tourists and half empty planes
Calling for the Government to do a specific thing a day before it's announced is partisan hackery? This is far from the "Trudeau is failing Canadians" tweet today after the announced plans with nothing specific of how he's failing Canadians.
Not for nothing, but what should the opposition parties be doing? lol
My company (entertainment and tech industries) just banned all international and domestic travel, including cross country rail without permission from the very top of the company.
They say more will be coming in the next few days, but I'm curious to see what our workers abroad have to do. A couple of employees just came back from Europe and were told that quarantine wasn't required and a few others were planning to head to Asia at the end of the month.
They say more will be coming in the next few days, but I'm curious to see what our workers abroad have to do. A couple of employees just came back from Europe and were told that quarantine wasn't required and a few others were planning to head to Asia at the end of the month.
Not inciting panc and distrust of the government when now is the time for people to listen and pay attention to what officials have to say.
Medical professionals often have to speak through government channels since it's the only platform that has national reach. Undermining the government also undermines the medical professionals as people often mistrust when it comes from the government when they're only acting on the instructions of the SME.
And Singh has been a one note moron constantly saying the "government has to act" or that "it's not (fast) enough" when so far the feds have handled 2020 well so far. He's unbelievably insufferable.
Sure, but that said, if you are forced to quarantine yourself and you don't know how you will pay the bills because your employer won't pay you for the time, presumably you're looking for some clear guidance on how you can make ends meet and not end up homeless or at the very least destroying your credit score.
The government is never wrong except when the CPC are in power. :D
If you're worried about paying bills there is EI. And the government just recently waived the 1 week period.
It's exteremely important the government comport themselves in deliberate and tempered manner. Don't incite panic.
In addition to money, how are these self quarantined people feeding themselves for the two weeks they're not supposed to leave their home or come into contact with anyone?
Yes, a day AFTER Singh's tweet so tell me how what he tweeted was wrong? Don't get me wrong, Singh is constantly saying stupid shit but that tweet was not one of them.
I guarantee you Singh was not the catalyst of the EI waiver. Dollars to donuts he was even privy before that tweet as the government officials most likely briefed all parties as to their plans ahead of time which makes his tweet disingenuous. It's really no time to grand stand right now.
Canada, Ontario, and Toronto could be doing so much more to stop the spread of the virus. The Toronto Saint Paddy's parade and Comicon should be cancelled. Schools should be shut down too. It's better to be proactive than reactive in a pandemic.
The lives of people are more important than the economic losses of quarantines.
As a poor person I can't afford to take weeks off, nor do I want to infect vulnerable coworkers and family. My mom, and younger brother both have asthma. With one of my jobs being in retail, and as a frequent public transit user, I'm afraid I'll get it.
The lives of people are more important than the economic losses of quarantines.
As a poor person I can't afford to take weeks off, nor do I want to infect vulnerable coworkers and family. My mom, and younger brother both have asthma. With one of my jobs being in retail, and as a frequent public transit user, I'm afraid I'll get it.
I don't think we need to go as far as Italy right now, they're in a full blown crisis. Certainly employers should manage discretionary travel. Every venue should be treated on a case by case basis. We are still a sparse country, at least in Ontario there has been little evidence of massive community based transmission so far (Ontario has 40'ish cases so far?).
Right now employers are doing a good job mitigating spread by optioning work at home for some companies like Shopify. Retailers will get hit hard if there is government intervention to shut down commercial activity. I think we want to minimize that as much as possible unless there's a huge spike. Even at work there's talk amongst co-workers to decrease the amount out of house exposure. I'm not noticing it in Ottawa at the stores but people are talking.
Right now employers are doing a good job mitigating spread by optioning work at home for some companies like Shopify. Retailers will get hit hard if there is government intervention to shut down commercial activity. I think we want to minimize that as much as possible unless there's a huge spike. Even at work there's talk amongst co-workers to decrease the amount out of house exposure. I'm not noticing it in Ottawa at the stores but people are talking.
The population density of the GTA is 849 km2. It's home to 6.4 million people. Canada only has a low population density because of the vast uninhabited tundra, swampland and boreal forests of our north.
Italy was at only 21 cases when the German originated Lombardy outbreak was first discovered on Feb. 21. They're now at 12,000 and forced to quarantine the entire country.
This isn't the time to act conservative. Lives are at stake. Our health infrastructure can't handle this if everyone gets sick.
I rolled my eyes hard when on the radio the news station quoted the parade organizers as saying they will take precautions to handle the virus. I mean WTF? How can you take precautions to handle an infectious virus in a crowd of thousands of people?
People need to take this thing more seriously. I regularly hear people say "it's just a flu, bro." It's sad.
It is. We have a few days before the parade, and longer before ComicCon. Hopefully they get cancelled.
I mean, that isn't much different that crossing over into the UK then flying to the US.
It just shows how shortsighted this decision was.
EDIT: also, as mentioned in the other thread, people have to wait for 14 days after leaving an "afflicted" country before entering the US regardless.
He's probably planning on the UK to block them. Still Canada is pretty much a joke country on that front. TVA/LCN were at the last flight form Italy to YUL and they are not even screening passengers arriving. Jesus.
All Quebec clinics that can do the test deffer to the 811 phone number.
The 811 number has been busy all day and callers are unable to get through
The 811 number has been busy all day and callers are unable to get through
The time to do what Italy is doing is as soon as possible. The doubling time is 6 days-ish. I'm sure many people have heard that tale about starting with a dollar on the first day of the month and getting it doubled every day? You're a millionaire well before the end of the month.
In my opinion you need to go to extremes to shut down transmission as much as possible. Ban all travel. Ban all large gatherings. People won't take it seriously until it's already too late. Another good reference is the old flash game Pandemic II. You're winning if you're Madagascar.
In my opinion you need to go to extremes to shut down transmission as much as possible. Ban all travel. Ban all large gatherings. People won't take it seriously until it's already too late. Another good reference is the old flash game Pandemic II. You're winning if you're Madagascar.
Get someone to drop bags of food at the person's door and walk away, person inside can open door and bring it inside?
Are you under the impression that just because they are the opposition party, they must oppose everything the government does?
Especially when they are just pathetically and transparently pointing fingers in vague ways just to score political points...
Maybe it'd be good if they elaborated on what exactly is wrong about what they're doing. 🤷♀️ You know, assuming this opposition actually has the public's interest at heart and not just getting their digs in.
Who's paying those delivery people? Trudeau said he's pulling out all the stops but I guess that's one stop too far.
Please point out what is vague about Singh's tweet about help for those without sick days (which means sick pay for self isolation). He was clear. Also, 55% (less if you're over the max) is nice but can still screw people over.
Well hopefully you have a friend/relative that can go to the store for you
I guess they don't get credit for supporting the ban on conversion therapy then?
It's a legitimate question, especially for those working precarious jobs like part time service jobs or god forbid, relying on companies like Uber to make a living where I'm not even sure if you qualify for EI benefits (or if you even pay EI through Uber).
Grocery stores deliver. If there's none in your area, call your city help line. Failing that, try other public services.
Pretty sure this is just stuff to ask whoever you contact in the first place to get tested and self quarantine anyways. They have the most knowledge and I'm sure procedures are rapidly evolving.
Didn't Italy keep pharmacies and grocery stores open? I'm sure there are procedures to enter but it's not like you're under house arrest. If you need food get food. Wear a mask and gloves if you have to.
I remember reading someone under quarantine was even allowed to walk their dog as long as it's quick.
I remember reading someone under quarantine was even allowed to walk their dog as long as it's quick.
Need some advice here:
Currently in Morocco for vacation but we're coming back earlier now due to how bad the coronavirus situation is getting internationally. Returning on the 15th now instead of the 20th.
One of our connecting flights back to Toronto was New York, via Paris. With US now rejecting European flights, we rerouted our flights from Paris to Toronto directly.
Would we still need to self-quarantine when we arrive at Toronto on the 15th?
Currently in Morocco for vacation but we're coming back earlier now due to how bad the coronavirus situation is getting internationally. Returning on the 15th now instead of the 20th.
One of our connecting flights back to Toronto was New York, via Paris. With US now rejecting European flights, we rerouted our flights from Paris to Toronto directly.
Would we still need to self-quarantine when we arrive at Toronto on the 15th?
You better. Quarantining is for the benefit of others, not yourself
Depending om your province, i would suggest calling their hotline to see if you can get tested first to get a confirmation
Isn't that something under the province's control? Doug Ford famously reduced paid sick days as one of his first acts.
For long term leave, people would have to go on medical leave.
People make fun of Americans for not knowing what the executive can and can not do, but it seems like people here in Canada also don't know what are under federal or provincial control.
You'd be crazy to leave the country right now, who the hell knows what restrictions may snap into place whereever you go and they may change the policy on requiring quarantine when you plan to come back.....
He should start broadcasting fireside chats from home to the Canadian people.
