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Can your PC run Windows 11? (Find out!) - Your gaming PC might be obsolete.
- Thread starter MRORANGE
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Y'all realize this is a DIY echo chamber, right?
The average consumer who is afraid to touch the BIOS and makes up the vast majority of the market also has an OEM PC. If they bought it in the last 3 years, they're on a supported CPU with TPM 2.0 enabled. TPM enabled out of the box has been a Microsoft requirement to be OEM certified since the Windows 10 release (or thereabouts, I'm not sure of the exact timing). Microsoft surely has data on what percentage of their users are on a supported CPU; I highly doubt the adoption rate will shock them. They know what they're doing.
Literally every new laptop (which makes up the bulk of consumer PC sales) since mid-2018 or so is compatible.
It does, and if you use a PIN you use Windows Hello.
This is admittedly unfortunate, but it seems bootcamp's days were numbered anyway; I kinda doubt Apple was going to support it for too long after they stopped selling Intel Macs. I was hoping Windows 11 ARM would be free of the Qualcomm OEM licensing deal so it could run on M1 Macs, but instead it looks like Microsoft doesn't care at all for this niche.
I assume this is part of their passwordless push. You can't really find a decent non-desktop without one anyway.say what now?
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Windows 11 is free, but your CPU might not be officially supported
TPM and CPU changes have led to some confusion.www.theverge.com
Smode is probably a bit flag to check whether Windows 11 is running in S.
C_ossku is probably some constant where the operating system SKU is one of those numbers.
doubling down on your tin foil garbage even when people pointed out how wrong you are is a interesting move...
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You're probably right, doesn't change the fact that Microsoft's messaging has been utter shit so naturally a lot of people will be confused.
Dude's really put out spec requirements then said "actually no, your CPU which meets those specs can't run our new OS".
The latest tweet from Tom Warren, pointing to the removal of the so called soft floor, leads me to believe that the PC Health app was in fact correct? If so RIP Ryzen 5 1st gen.
There's no reason why a chip like that wouldn't run Win 11, these generational cutoff points are so arbitrary and don't make sense to users.
MS woke up today and chose chaos lol.
There's no reason why a chip like that wouldn't run Win 11, these generational cutoff points are so arbitrary and don't make sense to users.
MS woke up today and chose chaos lol.
Had no idea what TPM was until looking through this thread and doing a bit of research on how to determine if you have it. Apparently I don't, although I haven't yet checked my BIOS settings to make sure. Running a machine from 2012 that is OEM, but apparently the model prior to implementation. Really curious if Microsoft will still allow upgrades to 11 despite this. Granted, we don't lose support until 2025, but despite mine's age, I don't really plan to get a new computer by then.
If there's no way to update, I guess I'll finally fully switch over to Linux and hope that Proton continues to improve.
If there's no way to update, I guess I'll finally fully switch over to Linux and hope that Proton continues to improve.
Says my i5-4690k processor (6 years old) isn't supported. Wonder why, on this page it hits all the processor requirements. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11?OCID=2_pchc_windows_app_omc_win
Tpm requirement
If they got rid of it even a core 2 duo could probably run this.
Huh, alright, guess I'll need a new computer somewhat soon anyway. My Windows Update is fucked. I am constantly getting a "Page Fault in Non Paged Area" error, constantly updating whenever I shut down and reverting when I start back up.
Average consumers having W11 compatible hardware is just one part here - they also need to actually upgrade to W11. Have you seen devices from normal users? There are always countless update/upgrade notifications, and they always skip those. When W10 came out, I was the one in my circle of friends and relatives who pushed people to upgrade, and I did many upgrades myself. I don't think I'm going to do this again when I myself can't even use W11. Pissing off PC gamers and power users will have a huge effect on word of mouth and adoption rates in those families.
Not everyone upgrades their PC or laptop every 3 years - in fact I'd say relatively few people probably upgrade that frequently.
It should have been a simple "if you can run Windows 10, you can run Windows 11". Instead, the messaging has been a complete mess. If they want to lock out certain features when you're actually in the OS unless you have the hardware - fine. They did that with Windows Hello already. There's no reason to lock out the entire OS like they appear to be doing.
You gotta change it in your BIOS, could be a pain in the ass depending on how your hard drive/SSD is partitioned (GPT or MBR). I wouldn't bother making changes if you're not confident with changing BIOS settings and all that, this thing doesn't come out until later this year so there's no rush.
EDIT: I didn't actually explain what secure boot is lol. It checks code signatures at launch, it can detect malware and prevent it from working. It's a security feature.
Wow... so the requirements weren't even needed at all in that case. Although, I wonder if that means after release you could just stay in Insider Preview builds in the slow ring or something, and not have to have TPM enabled. Hmm. May look into that if so.
Nope! My seven year old Core i5 4690K and ASRock Z97 Pro 4 motherboard does not support SecureBoot and thus is unable to get Windows 11.
Fortunately for me this last week I bought a new Core i7-10700K on a Prime Day sale along with a new MSI motherboard so I think I should be okay going forward! I'll put together the new PC this weekend.
Fortunately for me this last week I bought a new Core i7-10700K on a Prime Day sale along with a new MSI motherboard so I think I should be okay going forward! I'll put together the new PC this weekend.
My 5yr old ThinkPad meets all of the requirements for Windows 11, but if the CPU restrictions hold, isn't compatible because of an arbitrary, artificial CPU restriction.
It's pure bullshit.
Look at this:
Another sign of how artificial these requirements are. We will let you run our OS to beta test for us on unsupported hardware but when the RTM comes out you gotta hop off the train... wtf? That photo is from someone running the leaked iso that got it installed with the current workarounds on there.
I really have to wonder if Microsoft put Phil Harrison in charge of the Windows division.
With how much of a clusterfuck this has turned into, I'm almost expecting a
"We have a product for existing customers, it's called Windows 10" line at this point.
MS is going to knee-cap this OS before it even gets off the ground.
With how much of a clusterfuck this has turned into, I'm almost expecting a
"We have a product for existing customers, it's called Windows 10" line at this point.
MS is going to knee-cap this OS before it even gets off the ground.
"it is recommended" - hmmm, I can see the insider builds continuing for those happy to stay on pre-release builds. Here's hoping, anyway.yep look at this:
The latest update for Windows has bricked my wifi for the past six months so I've always had to roll back.
I'm hoping the jump to Windows 11 will fix it. It's a small hope, but maybe it'll work.
I'm hoping the jump to Windows 11 will fix it. It's a small hope, but maybe it'll work.
Yeah i will not use Win11
I can not change from Legacy, MBR and Secure Boot without wiping my computer. Unless you can install it anyway by 'bypassing' recommended stuff during the install.
i just followed the steps here and my computer which was on MBR(Legacy) is now on GPT(UEFI) with no issues. Didn't have to do a clean install or anything. I just used the command prompt from the advanced start up screen.
How to Convert Legacy BIOS to UEFI in Windows - Make Tech Easier
Microsoft introduced an MBR2GPT tool that lets you convert from Legacy BIOS to UEFI with just two commands. Here is how you can do so.
www.maketecheasier.com
I did back up my data beforehand just in case something were to happen though.
Yea I can't find it but then again my shit is ancient. I'm running an x79 lga 2011 i7 3820. I currently have a system on order because of the video card shortage with a 5800x/3070 TI, Asus TUF x570 so while it still bothers me that I can't just run Windows 11 out of the box, i'll be able to in about a month.
x79 should be more than enough to run this, I have one of those boards paired with a 4ghz 8 core xeon monster cpu.. super powerful cpu that rivals more modern tech. Just makes me sad.
I never said otherwise. My point was that Microsoft almost certainly has better data on this than we do, so expecting them to be blindsided by the adoption rate is silly. They know likely rather precisely how much they're limiting upgrade potential; I'd be shocked if it wasn't an informed decision.
Microsoft has data on this as well. Again, I'm not saying the adoption rate won't be low; I'm saying it won't be so low it catches Microsoft off guard and forces a pivot like Vista and 8 did.
Besides, their current model doesn't even really need immediate adoption. I don't think MS cares too much about whether you're on Windows 10 or Windows 11 for the next four years, as long as you're on one of them. They have a built-in crossover period to get the majority of users on 11.
it's not about how ''powerful'' a cpu is it's about the feature set of said cpu beside this shit is nearly 10 years old
Tell me that my macbook pro 2020 is 10 years old... with a 10th gen core i7...
That and the tech hasnt changed much since skylake, every cpu upto just recently has been a revision of skylake tech. (skylake came out in 2015 and not all those will run windows 11..)
Look at this:
Another sign of how artificial these requirements are. We will let you run our OS to beta test for us on unsupported hardware but when the RTM comes out you gotta hop off the train... wtf? That photo is from someone running the leaked iso that got it installed with the current workarounds on there.
Is it possible that Windows 11 insider builds released prior to the official release of Windows 11 will stay usable, but then if the user wants to upgrade to Windows 11 release, they will fail the installation / upgrade, and then they can't reinstall Windows 11 unless they have a backup insider build?
my guess like normal previews builds that they will have a timebomb on them... after a certain date you cant continue to use it.
The community is hard at work to reverse engineer things to get around these requirements, like they did to windows 8:
Windows 8 CPU Feature Patch (Bypass Windows 8 CPU feature checks)
Windows 8 CPU Feature Patch (Bypass Windows 8 CPU feature checks) [IMG] W8CPUFeaturePatch can be used to bypass the checks for the availability...
just might be harder this time, who knows.. or maybe MS might back down..
i'm going to repeat myself but don't whine if shit breaks after doing that stuff and you know you can just stay with win 10 right like nobody is forcing you to upgrade lmao
I ran the PC health check, and my laptop can't run Windows 11, but it doesn't say specifically which component(s) are incompatible. How do I check this?
I miss My Digital Life... Surprised it's still kicking around.my guess like normal previews builds that they will have a timebomb on them... after a certain date you cant continue to use it.
The community is hard at work to reverse engineer things to get around these requirements, like they did to windows 8:
Windows 8 CPU Feature Patch (Bypass Windows 8 CPU feature checks)
Windows 8 CPU Feature Patch (Bypass Windows 8 CPU feature checks) [IMG] W8CPUFeaturePatch can be used to bypass the checks for the availability...forums.mydigitallife.net
just might be harder this time, who knows.. or maybe MS might back down..
What message did you see? A screenshot would be nice.