We should congratulate the developers/labourers instead of Sony imo.
Hats off to them though what a lineup.
Hats off to them though what a lineup.
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Can We Take A Moment To Applaud Sony For Ending A Gen And Starting A Gen With Such An Amazing Lineup Of Games?
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So we praise them specifically for games that aren't theirs and can be played elsewhere?
Well for one the time and effort generally entails cutting a check, but that doesn't matter because you included games that aren't even timed exclusive.
Other people have said as much, but this seems a bit sycophantic. They don't need a round of applause, the wads of cash they've gotten from us will probably do just fine.
Also timed exclusivity doesn't add value to a platform, it just subtracts value from other ones.
Lets "applaud" them at the end of 2021 when they actually release all these games and half didn't get delayed (God of War is 100% not coming next year).
It looks like celebrating how many great games we get during a gen transition is causing anger and bitterness... among gamers?
Much better transition compared to all the others we've had in the past, but it remains to be seen if there are delays so it's a little premature. We can still applaud them for not giving up on the story-driven single player experiences, allowing studios to take risks on new IPs despite the 5 to 7 years it requires, allowing complex themes and character development despite angering the alt-right, brokering the deal that gave Insomniac the marvel characters they asked for, and brokering a deal with Kojima that gave us Death Standing. We should congratulate Mark Cerny and his team for making a console that is very easy to develop for, and a single hardware target, making these games ready much sooner than previous gens were.
Much better transition compared to all the others we've had in the past, but it remains to be seen if there are delays so it's a little premature. We can still applaud them for not giving up on the story-driven single player experiences, allowing studios to take risks on new IPs despite the 5 to 7 years it requires, allowing complex themes and character development despite angering the alt-right, brokering the deal that gave Insomniac the marvel characters they asked for, and brokering a deal with Kojima that gave us Death Standing. We should congratulate Mark Cerny and his team for making a console that is very easy to develop for, and a single hardware target, making these games ready much sooner than previous gens were.
Well I don't care about praising this or that megacorp, but if we're talking about games available to play at launch then yes I don't care if those games are also available elsewhere.
Applauding Corporations for doing whats best for its brand is just.....
...the Premise of this thread is too Dystopian for me.
...the Premise of this thread is too Dystopian for me.
This thread's about games released, and they released a lot the past two years, so i confused
Yeah, the lineup ending with Horizon: Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok will be incredible, I thought PS4 was over but I still can give it some life and that's amazing.
About the PS5 though, we have to wait a year or so to see what really gets released during the first year.
About the PS5 though, we have to wait a year or so to see what really gets released during the first year.
2020-2021 is probably the best streak ever for Sony's first party games. Very excited to see it keep going.
...Is this not an enthusiast gaming forum? Is gaming not the passion of the majority of users here? Why would they not express gratitude towards the people who make their beloved hobby possible? I find it weirder that you find this weird. This isn't any different than sneaker heads expressing gratitude towards Nike, or audiophiles expressing gratitude towards Sennheiser, or motor enthusiasts expressing gratitude towards Porsche.
A lot of those developers praise Sony even after working for them for their ability to be creative and make what they want, and one of Insom's employees said they were excited to work with Sony because their publishing pipeline makes it much easier to create a single-player experience like Spider-Man.
One has to include them.
I think the launch lineup looks cool and all, but maybe wait until you've played any of those games before you start slapping a corporation on the back.
There is a difference between Sony paying for the odd timed exclusives and Microsoft buying an entire publishing company that features tonnes of developes and big IPs.
That's really dramatic. People being excited by having good games is dystopian lmao
When the best interest of the brand also aligns with consumer interest, it's not dystopian to point that out. We literally have dozens of threads all of the time acknowledging the smart moves that Microsoft makes and it's filled with applause and appreciation.
I don't think Persona 5/Royal have any exclusivity deal, it's just that Altus decided to release on PlayStation only as that's where the series does really well.
It is indeed a very strong launch lineup. If launch games decide what system to buy its a no brainer really. Sony for me has never failed to deliver a wide range of games for me to enjoy, so I don't see why that would stop now.
They don't hold back games to make the next gen seem sweeter, that's a good thing. They did the same with the PS3.
I don't see much of a reason to cancel the PS4 version right now. The game design is likely well along enough to the point where the PS4s limitations are already factored into the design.
Much like they aren't going to cancel Halo Infinite for Xbox One.
I wouldn't really give them any credit for the timed exclusives (FF7R, Deathloop, Ghostwire), but their first party support is an amazing way to end the generation. I'm not really too keen on their games, but I would love to get my hands on Ghost of Tsushima some day. I just love the setting and art direction in that game. Was really glad to see Sucker Punch get it done.
And I was bloody impressed at Demon's Souls with a new coat of paint. Bluepoint has turned into such a fine developer.
And I was bloody impressed at Demon's Souls with a new coat of paint. Bluepoint has turned into such a fine developer.
The development teams of course deserve the lion's share of the credit for their products.
But Sony as a company has actually done something on a content pipeline level that is worthy of acknowledgement. Still supporting their outgoing platform with quality content while supplying their incoming platform with quality content early. That's not the norm. That's a result of product pipeline management and a commitment to supporting your products.
Congratulating Sony for paying for timed exclusives is stupid as heck. I'll give them that the first-party line-up is good with solid games but nothing really groundbreaking (outside of maybe The Last of Us 2 if you like the genre and we don't know a thing about God of War or Horizon 2).
Why cross out Iron Man VR? That definitely seems like a partnership for a game that would never be out anyway without Sony helping.
If Sony is partnering up with studios like a Kena and Deathloop, they've helped set up new IP. Partnering up still counts like when Nintendo gets KOEI Tecmo to help make Hyrule Warriors for them.
also what's there to know about GOW and Horizon? Safe bet they'll be excellent games.
It is not. An exclusive is an exclusive. What do u expect microsoft to do when Sony is buying up all these exclusive?
Of course there is a difference.
One is making individual games console exclusive for a specific amount of time and the other is buying a bunch of developers and making all future games exclusive forever.
So does Microsoft then, since they'll be funding any future content relative to Deathloop. Come on, reality is that Deathloop was being funded by Zenimax and made by Arkane and Sony or Microsoft have nothing to do with it, other than one of the two preventing a share of players from playing the game. The same applies to Ghostwire. KOEI Tecmo is actively using a brand owned by Nintendo to make that game. The game wouldn't exist without Nintendo.
The Horizon and GOW bit was about them actually releasing during the first year like OP said, I don't doubt they're most likely going to be good games.
Again what do people expect Microsoft to do when Sony is paying for all these exclusives? Again your applauding Sony doing the exact thing that Microsoft is getting hate for. Keeping games for the competitors box.
Straight up can't even have a thread talking about how good a bunch of games are without people coming in to shit on it lol
Microsoft were doing the exact same thing from the Xbox inception, this isn't a Sony exclusive problem.
You are Also being extremely reductive by equating them to being the same. One goes for timed exclusives unless they are explicitly helping with development and funding, so those games will come to other platforms eventually, the other just walled off an entire range of developers and their IPs forever.
Sure but my point is its still a 'new' rpg, available day 1. So there are rpgs on ps5.
Taking out the stuff they just paid to be exclusive to their system and Persona then Sony's done nothing for me this year and PS5 is a big "eh ok" from me.
What don't u get? I'm being reductive because it's pretty simple concept. Sony is paying for games not to show up on the competitors box. Don't matter if it's timed or not. The launch of a game is insanely important and gives the platform holder the mindshare. It is just as dirty of a move as buying Bethesda or Insomniac but here we are "applauding".
You are Just being ridiculous now.
One allows people access to the games on other platforms, the other doesn't.
Anyway, let's leave it at this because it's getting off topic.
we knew nothing about Demons Souls but that's out at launch. I believe those games will make 2021, four and three years for sequels isn't unheard of.
But yeah at the same time, third parties making new IPs and games for your console does count for something. I don't get crossing them all out because Sony first party didn't make it themselves. Plus there are times when it makes sense; like with Iron Man VR. If it's marketing or additional funding or some kind of support that is beneficial to the dev; partnerships aren't always all bad.
Does Sony having Bloodborne not count because it's a From game? Is 13 Sentinels not a exclusive because it was made by Vanillaware and not a Sony dev? Nah they're still very valuable additions to the line ups.