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Can we safely say that lower computation power in PS5 is not going to result in lower performance than XSX even in future
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This is all I'm expecting at most. Both platforms are gonna sing in the near future.
If the PS5 is the leading console, and I expect it to be, there will never be significant performance advantage on the XBSX. Both console will perform very similarly in most case.
Yep, absolutely. We've got some great consoles and 99,9 percent won't even notice those tiny differences between both consoles.
Close is relative. I still think it's possible we see performance differences between two different GPUs on PC
And that's even before factoring in software complexities.
That said - the early data does seem to point at rasterization performance between the two being remarkably close. It'd be ironic if it turns out that the 'secret sauce' is the only thing that changes things around - in either direction - since it's doubtful early sw is taking much advantage of it on either so far.
PS5 is a beast, so happy with what Cerny came up with. An excellent machine for sure and the fact that it even competes with the XSX is an amazing achievement. Long term we still may see the XSX perform better but the differences will not be as substantial as once thought.
Power consumption never takes into account efficiency. Just because one thing draws more power than another, doesn't mean it will be better. Never has
Tbe difference in gpu power in xbsx and ps5 is a lot closer than ps4 bs Xbone. Probably like half of that. It's going to be near identical
Equal performance and available for $100 less. PS5:DE is the best deal in gaming.
I agree with that, that resolution will be the difference in most cases, but there were people saying the series x will have an edge with ray tracing due to having hardware and software solutions better suited for performance with it. Also that we wont see major difference until the cross gen period is over anyway.
Pretty much this. It's way too early. Who knows what bottlenecks will be important once devs start to really design engines around these new consoles
I'm actually quite surprised how close these are, like how multiplat devs are actually trying to make both versions perform and look the same without leaving the other box in the dust. I remember the PS2/Xbox/GC era where sometimes even whole sections are different. Case in point: Splinter Cell.
Fees like everyone will be satisfied with the plastic box they buy this time around. Unless their enjoyment comes from scrubbing through videos showing very minute differences.
It's more likely the Tflop / cu count don't mean much for next-gen gaming than PS5 is outperforming a "more powerful" machine.
I think most of the stuff Cerny talked about will be the differentiating factor between consoles, he seemed to specify areas that are helpful as resolutions and assets increase going into next-gen
I think most of the stuff Cerny talked about will be the differentiating factor between consoles, he seemed to specify areas that are helpful as resolutions and assets increase going into next-gen
RT, is also tied to resolution.
And that's what this simply all comes down to. Resolution. And no matter what people say here, or how good anything becomes in any version of the future, we will at best see a 10-17% advantage on the XSX over the PS5. At some point, even if its only 5%, 10% or 15%, the XSX would perform better than the PS5. But the simple truth of the matter is that all that performance advantage would simply come down to resolutions.
2160p is ~8M pixels.
15% less is ~6.8M pixels aka 1944p.
10% less is ~7.2M pixels aka 2016p.
That is what resolution scaling is all about, when everything else is pretty much identical with the PS5 even being ahead in some areas, scaling resolution is the easiest way to maintain parity in performance between the consoles.
Most of us don't have an eye for this stuff and would only know the difference because content creators like Digital Foundry and NX Gamer pointed them out to us. The differences will be negligible. It's Series S owners that will be impacted the most because MS's claims of only resolution differences already don't hold up.
That's exciting to hear. Games like Demon's Souls are already so impressive, can't wait to see where things progress.
The difference was apparent right out the gate last gen, so I'd say if there was to be a clear edge one way or the other we would've seen evidence of it already.
I'd expect things to stay super close.
I'd expect things to stay super close.
I expect 3rd party games to perform better on the series x in the future simply based on the power difference. This is coming from someone that has zero intention to ever buy a series x.
I don't think its going to be as significant as some people thought (hoped) it would be. But there will be a slight difference.
I don't think its going to be as significant as some people thought (hoped) it would be. But there will be a slight difference.
I expect they'll always be pretty close. Developers have been targeting the same framerates and resolutions on both machines with pretty much every game. It's not the 1080p/720p disaster from the start of last gen. Some will run a little better on one console, others will run a little better on the other. Whatever.
I think we can probably conclude at this point that the gap is so close 99% of people are going to rely on Digital Foundry's super in-depth testing procedures to even know what the difference is to begin with.
And if that's the case, I'd ponder whether it even matters.
And if that's the case, I'd ponder whether it even matters.
Why are you guys so obsessed with making definitive statements like this so early on??? These consoles have only been out for a few weeks
Although you've said this enough (and people continue to ignore it), it really doesn't need to be elaborated further on.
I swear some console folk are more obsessed with performance than most PC gamers. The only difference being that PC gamers care about getting the best out of their own system while said console folk seem more interested in beating the 'enemy'.
No. It's been three weeks, mostly cross-gen, and a pandemic I wouldn't say this is what to expect for the next 7 years any more than I would say that PS5 SSD speed bonuses are only going to be 2-3 second load times over series X. I will wait and see.
Isn't the gap roughly 20% anyways? Less than the gap between ps4/XB1 and PS4pro/xb1x? I doubt it'll be a significant difference if the series x begins running games better down the road.
You think there is that big of a power gap?
It was never going to be measured by some marketing spiel or most powerful hardware claims or terraflop counts. Even devs and folks like Mark Cerny have stated as such.
And it's ok.
And it's ok.
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