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Can we get 60fps performance mode in every game going forward?
- Thread starter MercuryLS
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I hope every device that chooses not to include a choice between fidelity and performance gets roasted online.
No reason not to anymore.
No reason not to anymore.
Ray tracing and 60fps at like 1080p-1440p or dynamic res with a DLSS-like solution is the sweet spot.
A turn-based game should be able to hit 60 fps with ease on PS5 and Xbox Series X. If it somehow has state of the art graphical fidelity, a 4k30 setting could be acceptable if it also offers a 60 fps performance mode. But really, what are the odds of a turn-based game being given a big budget these days?
I'm still annoyed that Valkyria Chronicles 4 is capped at 1080p30 even on PS4 Pro.
This.
I think things will be different this time around considering the CPUs are finally decent. Graphics are very scalable and there's no reason any game should release without a 60 FPS option going forward.
Last gen we had to deal with extremely low power CPUs which hindered performance and limited a lot of games to 30 FPS. I don't think we'll see any major CPU limitations for a while this gen.
Yeah, that's fair. If it does have 4k then it being at 30fps would make more sense since 4k is demanding. However it should be a choice for a turn based game since it's not like playing a shooter, fighter, platformer or anything else that's fast paced for the most part.
Oh, it is? I had no idea. You would think it'll be at a higher FPS for that game on the Pro.
Damn, sounds like Hollywood brainwashed you to think that smoother motion is a bad thing.
Had to re-read OP's post several times, perhaps you're right. English's not my first language, my apologies.
I feel like we're completely ignoring how PC GPUs age. Running today's games at high fidelity 60fps is not the same as expecting it from what is releasing 5 years from now. Even the RTX 3080 won't last forever.
Are you willing to accept medium settings for your 60fps, or do you expect the fantasy of no compromises to actually come to fruition? PC gamers make the choice of dropping setting as their systems age, while we've never seen console developers willing to offer such a thing. Which do you think they'll sacrifice first, framerate or image quality? It's a self-evident reality, why consoles have been stuck at 30fps in the first place.
We haven't even seen next-gen games yet. Demon's Souls is a great amuse-bouche, but is far from a plated course.
The realities of console gaming will return. Sorry to be a downer.
Are you willing to accept medium settings for your 60fps, or do you expect the fantasy of no compromises to actually come to fruition? PC gamers make the choice of dropping setting as their systems age, while we've never seen console developers willing to offer such a thing. Which do you think they'll sacrifice first, framerate or image quality? It's a self-evident reality, why consoles have been stuck at 30fps in the first place.
We haven't even seen next-gen games yet. Demon's Souls is a great amuse-bouche, but is far from a plated course.
The realities of console gaming will return. Sorry to be a downer.
There's still plenty of head room to move for 60fps if we go back to 1080p.
Yeah on PC I rely on medium-high settings to hit 60fps since I don't max out games usually.
This is why I'm taking a bit of a gamble by keeping my 1080p display around. Consoles simply aren't ready yet for the full 4k bells and whistles, but if this means super smooth gameplay and sometimes super sampling at 1080p then I'm all for it.
I don't expect it for some big budget AAA games mainly open world ones, like Rockstar and Ubisoft games. Action oriented games I really hope so though like for God of War, Ghostwire Tokyo, Deathloop, Capcom games, etc......
Yeah I made a decision that the only games I would play in 30FPS this gen were Sony first party, and then ONLY if they forced me to (ie, if Horizon 2 or GOW2 only have 30 fps modes). Otherwise I am playing 60 with any performance mode that is offered, and if that perf mode is only 1080p I am playing on PC, where I can hit 1440p@60 in any game possible (well, maybe minus ray tracing).
To me not doing this with powerful consoles that the developers can manipulate as if they are PCs is unforgivable.
To me not doing this with powerful consoles that the developers can manipulate as if they are PCs is unforgivable.
60 needs to become the standard on console.
I think we'll see more options for it this gen, but due to the never ending push for higher image fidelity, I have my doubts we'll fully get there.
I think we'll see more options for it this gen, but due to the never ending push for higher image fidelity, I have my doubts we'll fully get there.
Playing AC at 60 has made me an RT skeptic in games going forward knowing I could have a performance mode.
It would require a game of astounding production value and eye candy like a RDR2 and the like for me to settle for 30
It would require a game of astounding production value and eye candy like a RDR2 and the like for me to settle for 30
Of course. Do that on PC all the time.
Those compromises are always way smaller than the enormous compromise of 30fps, where everything is choppy as soon as anything moves. Give me 720p, remove effects, no raytracing... What ever it takes, just hit a stable 60fps as the absolute minimum.
I hope we do. I have always maintained that 30FPS has been fine, but seeing all this 60fps goodness and switching back to the respective 30FPS modes that supposedly have more fidelity has been eye opening. I seriously would struggle to go back. To my eyes games that have 60fps modes look better than games with 30FPS modes with increased effects etc. the added smoothness and no blur is game changing
This is my wish as well.
I do love ray tracing, and I will gladly experiment in ray tracing modes, but when possible I'd love to just get 60fps (or even 120fps) instead as my main playthrough approach.
I'll begin asking for ray tracing and 60+fps starting next generation. ;)
I do love ray tracing, and I will gladly experiment in ray tracing modes, but when possible I'd love to just get 60fps (or even 120fps) instead as my main playthrough approach.
I'll begin asking for ray tracing and 60+fps starting next generation. ;)
I hope so. Locked 60 makes everyones eyes happier. And 120fps should be an option for competitive multiplayer games.
But locked 60 makes everyone happy enough.
When the console makers now can see what kind of settings people prefer between Performance and Graphics mode - I hope we will see Performance mode becoming the standard and maybe they can spend the rest of the development time on Graphics after launch instead. :D
But locked 60 makes everyone happy enough.
When the console makers now can see what kind of settings people prefer between Performance and Graphics mode - I hope we will see Performance mode becoming the standard and maybe they can spend the rest of the development time on Graphics after launch instead. :D
Nah. I personally can't tell the difference other than characters don't feel part of the world at 60 but I can typically definitely tell the difference of the visual hit to get to 60. Look at Spiderman looks awful in 60 in comparison and I don't even like Ray tracing
Sony just got a customer that hasn't owned a Playstation since Playstation 2 after hearing about Spiderman Remastered and Miles Morales having 60 fps modes. I probably would have bought a PS4 Pro back in the day if Spiderman had a 60 fps mode. For a game like Spiderman, I'm constantly moving and moving quickly. I don't have time to look at Ray Tracing, so 60 fps mode just makes more sense to me.
Doing that on consoles potentially compromises game design and the degree of ambition. I'd rather have games going for visual prowess designed from the ground up around 30fps so they can maximise design, fidelity, scope and optimisations around it, instead of potentially limiting things by being beholden to 60fps too.
I'm hoping this whole upcoming gen can be a showcase of amazing-looking 1440p60. Especially once PSVR2 enters the scene.
First 2-3 responses in the thread were the same accidentally(?), and it became a running joke.
I wouldn't mind going back to consoles this gen if that was the case, if not I will just keep upgrading my PC.
Maybe it's just me, but I can't tell the difference between fidelity and performance in Spider-Man MM, but ray tracing looks awesome in fidelity mode.