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Can we finally admit the State of Play format is a successful one for Sony?
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Did not like this one too much.
I say don't bother with them until you have something really really substantial.
The next state of Play should say "This state of Play will focus 20 minutes on indies".
That way we can set expectations.
I say don't bother with them until you have something really really substantial.
The next state of Play should say "This state of Play will focus 20 minutes on indies".
That way we can set expectations.
They still have a ways to go before it's E3 2016 levels of great, that was an amazing showcase and format, but I'd take multiple SoPs a year over 1 E3 2018.
i mean does a multi-national corporation NEED us to come to its defense? where is the poll option for indifference?
The format is fine but the content is not there yet. Once State of Play can deliver on the content like Nintendo Directs do on a consistent basis, then the justification to hold them will be there, I think.
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I like these State of Plays and Nintendo Directs or whatever not because I enjoy watching them -- I haven't actually sat and watched these quick format presentations or a live conference since that Nintendo one where they spent ages on Smash Bros. as I think they're all boring -- but because the format seems to make it easier for things to be communicated in news/blog/forum posts. I feel like the pacing of a live conference makes keeping up with information as an outsider a bit messy.
So with that in mind I'm ok with it and encourage more of these.
So with that in mind I'm ok with it and encourage more of these.
I saw that recent State of Play thread and I would say that the reaction is kind of a mix, I do like that it is kind of direct to the point. I don't think that they plan on replacing live conferences/events with it so I'm fine with it. I think State of Play is well suited for titles that would not get their time on the big stage, updates on first party games and the occasional announcements before a big event.
A release date for their biggest game of the generation after a 1.5 years hiatus is not substantial?
It's a fine enough format for smaller titles and updates on the big games from the first party studios, but it certainly doesn't replace conferences. There's still a lot of room for improvement with the SOP's.
I'll always prefer conferences though.
I'll always prefer conferences though.
When another platform holder does this type of format better then no, I can't call it successful. It's slowly getting better though.
Sure.
But for me the beginning was lacking and I did not feel excited at all until tlou2. That killed the presentation for me because the first impression wasnt that great.
Nintendo also sprinkles a few interesting titles in between to keep your interest but it's obvious Sony, while copying the format, definitely did not have enough interesting content. Hell there was an advertisement for death stranding edition PS4 but no gameplay.
The problem with this approach is that they would have to FULLY commit to the format, which both Xbox and PlayStation have and will not. E3 is still the big one with Game Awards next in line
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Okay, I can jive with that. I think a lot of that has to do with Sony being in an off-year though, as I said. I hope they stick with these even going into next year and beyond, because I think with a better selection of content they will be great.
I feel like it's an okay idea for casual viewers. For people who actually follow games, trailer drops are better and straight to the point.
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Can you please take your console war nonsense out of here?
I think it's a pretty bad sign that people were still down on this one despite the presence of TLOU2.
It's also damning with faint praise if all you can say is that the format's good and improving, because they're using an established template and have been increasingly closer with each presentation.
It's also damning with faint praise if all you can say is that the format's good and improving, because they're using an established template and have been increasingly closer with each presentation.
The thing that State of Play still needs some work on is pacing, but a lot of that has to do with third party trailer pacing. Sometimes those don't always fit the direct style, and it's why Nintendo seems to get formatted trailers for their directs (at least in terms of non-spotlight games) to make everything just roll out smoothly.
Inside Xbox has so much "get to the point" filler and banter that anything is better than that, though.
Inside Xbox has so much "get to the point" filler and banter that anything is better than that, though.
It's great. I don't think it replaces the need for big conferences, but these little Direct style updates are dope.
Next gen will be better (if they choose to keep with it), Sony lineup at the moment is very dry and as I said on the other topic, they need to get way more indies to keep the stream entertaining.
What I want to see on next gen per episode: At least one 1st Party Game (announcement or update/new trailer); three or four 3rd Party AAA,; six or seven indies. They can toss some VR and even shows/movies (since they have a tv/movie studio now) announcements as well.
What I want to see on next gen per episode: At least one 1st Party Game (announcement or update/new trailer); three or four 3rd Party AAA,; six or seven indies. They can toss some VR and even shows/movies (since they have a tv/movie studio now) announcements as well.
State of Play presentations always seem to end before they really get going. The format is good but it feels like they only ever have one game that carries the presentation - it's good to highlight the smaller ones but there's a balance to be found and they certainly haven't found it yet.
don't call it console warring lmao it was just an observation my guy.
they have a lot of work to do to get it up to scratch.
Format is ultimately irrelevant to me, it all depends on the content being shown. Ive seen people praise any show when stuff they personally like is being announced.
It needs snappier writing and maybe a slightly more lively VA, but as a format its fine.
When people criticise the content, I find it rather confusing as we're just off of TGS where they showed a hell of a lot of stuff there too. Are people expecting huge megatons out of the PS4 that aren't already announced projects or something? The PS5 reveal is next year and so thats when the whole new slate will start getting drafted in.
When people criticise the content, I find it rather confusing as we're just off of TGS where they showed a hell of a lot of stuff there too. Are people expecting huge megatons out of the PS4 that aren't already announced projects or something? The PS5 reveal is next year and so thats when the whole new slate will start getting drafted in.
Using TLoU2's insane hype to also shine a spotlight on other games isn't a bad thing imo and it's just 20min show, not 60-110 minutes of build up like they would be for a big showcase.
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Your observation in and of itself may have had merit, the way you worded it was very clearly inflammatory. "Just do their usual bit and copy Nintendo's success" is console warring bullshit, and you know it.
Yeah, that's good pacing while showing all kind of content (indies, ports, new games...) and is what makes Directs great. I mean, today's State of Play has not been close to any recent direct, as much as I want to play TLOU I knew that both a new trailer and a release date were going to be announced, I watched the other things (that were not interesting to me at all) while waiting for the trailer. On the other hand, the "one thing more" surprise at the end of most Directs make them far more interesting and less predictable.
Have you not watched any recent Nintendo directs? What Sony showed off today for TLoU part 2 would have been something Nintendo would have put in the middle of their directs as "interesting filler" as you called it.
I should hope so; it would be a shame if all the hard work Sony put into copying Nintendo was for nothing!
Pretty much this. And I'm so glad they didn't waste almost an hour of my time on bullshit like MS did.
Nintendo Direct >>>> Sony's State of Play >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inside Xbox
Not enough. If it was the announcement of the game, sure, but to release a new trailer and a release date there's no need of any event and to create expectations.
Yeah it's lacking. I'd be perfectly fine if this was a monthly event but 20 minutes after a 3 month lapse doesn't feel substantial enough.
The format is fine, they just need to wait until they actually have stuff to talk about before doing one.
They still need to figure out the pacing & how to show off the indie titles, as the presentation dragged a lot early on. Then we finally get to a bigger game, Death Stranding, & it's just the custom PS4 & Dual Shock that accompanies seemingly every Sony exclusive. To me that felt like a letdown.
I feel like part of it is nothing was surprising. They teased Last of Us 2 for a whole week, so by the time the State of Play started I know I was just thinking, "ok but where's Last of Us?" after every title. I think if they had just announced the State of Play yesterday without any Last of Us teases, then people would be a lot more excited about the show overall. Since it only delivered what we expected & little more, it just felt okay at best.
I feel like part of it is nothing was surprising. They teased Last of Us 2 for a whole week, so by the time the State of Play started I know I was just thinking, "ok but where's Last of Us?" after every title. I think if they had just announced the State of Play yesterday without any Last of Us teases, then people would be a lot more excited about the show overall. Since it only delivered what we expected & little more, it just felt okay at best.
The format is perfectly fine. It's simple, but it works.
The issue is that so far all three State of Play had lackluster content. Clearly Sony is not interested in having those events be particularly big or meaningful rather than a way to deliver a handful of trailers that happens to be ready at roughly the same time and could be shown together because why not.
The issue is that so far all three State of Play had lackluster content. Clearly Sony is not interested in having those events be particularly big or meaningful rather than a way to deliver a handful of trailers that happens to be ready at roughly the same time and could be shown together because why not.