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Can i say it? Screw white people
- Thread starter jey_16
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Hope you feel better soon, the world is a hard place. At least they didn't say cracker with a hard r. I'm here for you.
Ah damn it's Australia, I have no clue about what regulatory bodies you guys have for employment discrimination or what the laws are like there. I'm sorry this happened to your wife OP.
Did this white guy have connections? Feels like that is the biggest influence in hiring decisions
It's really often used as an excuse to be racist/sexist/ageist. It's not a legal defense against discriminatory hiring practices, but the problem is you have to prove the discrimination which is really hard to do.
Same people offended by it saying "not all white people" have very "All lives matter" vibes to them. It's like, yeah no shit. Not every single white person is fucking evil, if you're being hurt or offended by it, maybe ask why that is?
I believe that the first couple posts in a thread determine its inertia for the rest of its life
in this one, the fragile whites happened to show up early
Yes you can OP. I am sorry that your wife didn't get the job.
Every white people on on earth benefit from white privilege regardless whether they intended it or not. So yes all white people should be tarred with the same with the brush until the system is dismantled.
It's not fair that White people have an unfair advantage over us BIPOC.
Most likely both, which is never a fun combination. Life is hard enough if you're a BIPOC but even harder if you're a disabled/woman/LBGT+ BIPOC or if you're really unlucky all of them combined. 🙃
Yep. White people just have a fragile ego and can't handle the truth nor accept that they will never be a victim of racism. Their privileges protects them of that.
Every white people on on earth benefit from white privilege regardless whether they intended it or not. So yes all white people should be tarred with the same with the brush until the system is dismantled.
It's not fair that White people have an unfair advantage over us BIPOC.
Most likely both, which is never a fun combination. Life is hard enough if you're a BIPOC but even harder if you're a disabled/woman/LBGT+ BIPOC or if you're really unlucky all of them combined. 🙃
Yep. White people just have a fragile ego and can't handle the truth nor accept that they will never be a victim of racism. Their privileges protects them of that.
I am so sorry this happened to you and your wife. It's bullshit, it's racism, it's cruel, and it's yet another example of white people at our worst. I can't say anything useful, but don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking you're wrong to identify this as racial nepotism, or wrong to call it exactly what it is. I am so fucking disgusted that this is still a thing good people have to endure.
yeah, I agree that it's most certainly this
though in education a white woman might've gotten in over a white man so the racism was probably the main thing
(I'm overthinking this now)
some painfully boring white people consider their whiteness a primary part of their identity, and take issue with said identity being threatened
OP
OP
I don't even know what to say to her when she gets home but as someone who went through something similar earlier in my career, it takes a while to get over it. I think why it's hitting her so hard is when you look at the facts, it should have been a no brainer considering her experience and the feed back she received throughout the year
hopefully she can find something else soon
hopefully she can find something else soon
Cosigned. Go ahead with any and all venting.
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I like it
Damn, I can relate to how your wife feels so hard. I'm so sorry you guys are dealing with this this.
And does it really need to be said that he of course knows not all white people suck? *checks thread* Yeah, I guess it does...
I 100% empathize with you and her anger and frustration. I've been there too. It was always a blow each and every time I'd be passed up for a promotion, or for a full time contract, while my white peers climbed the industry ladder, becoming producers, game designers, etc, etc. It was always bittersweet for me. Like, on one hand, I really was happy for them, because they were good folks, and worked just as hard as I did, but on the other hand, I was becoming increasingly discouraged, because eventually it got to the point where it wasn't just my white coworkers that started work when I did getting promotions, but people that had only been at the company for a few months, and even less experience than me, yet the opportunities continued to pass me by, despite expressing repeated interest in wanting to move up. I even left the industry completely for about a year, due to a mix of burnout, and just being discouraged from even wanting to pursue a career in gaming at all.
I eventually landed at a studio where I was finally able to show what I could do, but also had leadership that actively encouraged and fostered growth within the company, and gave me (and others), the tools to actually grow, and so when opportunities for advancement presented itself, I was able to finally take advantage of it. I don't think it's a coincidence that my job is incredibly diverse, from people of color, to women.
Racial bias in the workplace is a thing, people. A very, very common, dehumanizing, frustrating, and widespread thing. The OP's anger and frustration is completely valid and warranted.
EDIT: Oh man, it's been a while since I've heard "culture fit." What a complete and utter piece of bullshit. "Culture fit" is just a dog whistle for "not the same ethnic group/gender/age/etc as me and my golf buddies." Pisses me off so much.
And does it really need to be said that he of course knows not all white people suck? *checks thread* Yeah, I guess it does...
I 100% empathize with you and her anger and frustration. I've been there too. It was always a blow each and every time I'd be passed up for a promotion, or for a full time contract, while my white peers climbed the industry ladder, becoming producers, game designers, etc, etc. It was always bittersweet for me. Like, on one hand, I really was happy for them, because they were good folks, and worked just as hard as I did, but on the other hand, I was becoming increasingly discouraged, because eventually it got to the point where it wasn't just my white coworkers that started work when I did getting promotions, but people that had only been at the company for a few months, and even less experience than me, yet the opportunities continued to pass me by, despite expressing repeated interest in wanting to move up. I even left the industry completely for about a year, due to a mix of burnout, and just being discouraged from even wanting to pursue a career in gaming at all.
I eventually landed at a studio where I was finally able to show what I could do, but also had leadership that actively encouraged and fostered growth within the company, and gave me (and others), the tools to actually grow, and so when opportunities for advancement presented itself, I was able to finally take advantage of it. I don't think it's a coincidence that my job is incredibly diverse, from people of color, to women.
Racial bias in the workplace is a thing, people. A very, very common, dehumanizing, frustrating, and widespread thing. The OP's anger and frustration is completely valid and warranted.
EDIT: Oh man, it's been a while since I've heard "culture fit." What a complete and utter piece of bullshit. "Culture fit" is just a dog whistle for "not the same ethnic group/gender/age/etc as me and my golf buddies." Pisses me off so much.
OP
OP
Thank you so much, i want to show this to her when she gets back so she knows she isn't alone
please don't take my attempted observation as endorsement of the thought patterns observed
white is as much an identity as having a spleen
I know you don't, don't worry.
I always laugh at the idea of white identity as it not a thing
Yeah. A ton more white people need to recognize their privilege. Obviously they weren't the ones who made it that way, but ignoring it just lets the problem continue.
The type who celebrate the confederacy or who make being able to drink milk into adulthood a big deal.
No problem! She definitely isn't alone, as sad as it is to find comfort in that thought. lol
because of implicit bias, even well meaning white people can get up to fuckery
really, go ahead tc
really, go ahead tc
That's not white identity. I don't even know what that is.
That's "Merca" Identity
I'm in here memeing but this is a bummer of a thread. I'm sorry shit is like this OP
I know. It wasn't really a serious statement. Which I felt is kinda fitting, since anyone who feels proud of having a "white identity" is pretty stupid.
yeah, they probably drink fucking white milk too
(couldn't miss the opportunity to link my all-time favorite Era thread)
as a white dude i sort of agree many white people sort of blow i mean look at trumps base that says all you need to know.
