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Can Dragon Quest 11 S finally be the series' breakout moment in the west?
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Dragon Quest XI is considered one of the weakest soundtracks in the series. I played DQ5 recently and the music was good, not GOAT status but definitely memorable.
For all the shitty things about Sugiyama, he is a brilliant classical composer. Some of his orchestrated Dragon Quest songs are some of the best out there. But you can tell which songs in this game are original compositions for XI and which ones come from the rest of the series. There is no defending the cheap synths they use for the original release of the game. The battle theme sounds really good orchestrated but there just is no saving the overworld theme - too short, six themes in one, that obnoxious clicking. But we can replace it with VIIIs overworld theme in the final game, so yay on that.
I love DQ (it's my all-time favorite JRPG series), but it's a year-late port of an already existing game from different platforms, and let's face it, it's never going to have that mass appeal, excitement, or marketing push of something like Final Fantasy VII Remake (which I'm sure will be nuts this coming March), so while I do expect it will probably sell best on Switch, I don't think the numbers are going to be so wildly different. I would love to be wrong though. :)
I can see it. The time is right, Smash gives it a push, Builders 2 introduces people perfectly to the franchise and the demo gives it even more hype.
The marketing for the definitive version and all the new features is fantastic and all together will lead the new audience to wanting them scratch the Dragon Quest itch when it finally releases. Switch already did miracles to so many indie games where I personally would have thought "who the fuck gives a shit about this port?" And then devs said it's the platform with the most sells. So the Switch will give it a huge boost, cause it can put it in a light that the 3DS never could.
The marketing for the definitive version and all the new features is fantastic and all together will lead the new audience to wanting them scratch the Dragon Quest itch when it finally releases. Switch already did miracles to so many indie games where I personally would have thought "who the fuck gives a shit about this port?" And then devs said it's the platform with the most sells. So the Switch will give it a huge boost, cause it can put it in a light that the 3DS never could.
Just curious why you would say that, if anything can be said it is a decent slice of the game that people can figure out if they like it or not. They need westerns to take some interest if this isnt going to be a flop.
Bland sums it up pretty well
I'd hope so but I doubt it, it seems traditional turn based is something that a lot of people just don't like or care for unfortunately
Persona is less about dating sim, and more about "this is me if my high school life was perfect" sort of thing. I think that hits close to a lot of people, considering high school in America/Japan is a nightmare for many.
the media certainly portrays it that way, but it seems pretty far from the truth
I do hope so, I mean, atleast enough so we get most of the games localized going forward.
I wouldnt view it as a perfect highschool life, especially considering the homophobia and transphobia involved.
I wouldnt view it as a perfect highschool life, especially considering the homophobia and transphobia involved.
Playing the switch demo the past day I honestly expected more.
It's not bad, I'm enjoying myself, but the pace is a little slow to start, and there is no wow factor or innovation I've seen so far
But honestly after reading how the Japanese tend to approach a new entry in the dragon quest series it has tempered expectations back a little
Was a huge fan of vii, 8 & 9
I've had to switch to Japanese voiceover and English subs as that feels better than the slowly read English country bumpkins I've encountered so far
But again I'm Very early on so far
Have it preordered and preloaded for day 1 so I'm committed no matter my view now (the joy of digital - my choice though so not complaining)
It's not bad, I'm enjoying myself, but the pace is a little slow to start, and there is no wow factor or innovation I've seen so far
But honestly after reading how the Japanese tend to approach a new entry in the dragon quest series it has tempered expectations back a little
Was a huge fan of vii, 8 & 9
I've had to switch to Japanese voiceover and English subs as that feels better than the slowly read English country bumpkins I've encountered so far
But again I'm Very early on so far
Have it preordered and preloaded for day 1 so I'm committed no matter my view now (the joy of digital - my choice though so not complaining)
September is very packed.
FE had nothing between end july and 30th august + FE Heroes is a big success so...
FE had nothing between end july and 30th august + FE Heroes is a big success so...
I mean, actual advertising from nintendo should help. I dont expect it to be a massive success, but I can see it doing better than the ps4 release.
Well the version of Dragon Quest Builders 2 they published sold worse so...
That might help but it isn't like DQ11 came out in the west to nobody's notice either. It might do better than the PS4 and PC release but not sure if that'll be the break out moment for the series in the west.
True, but not sure how to take the sales of DQB2 as it's a sequel of a spin-off.
still high on the amazon chart. much higher than astral chain too..
Doing better than LA is the big news here IMO. Though, aren't Amazon charts notoriously unreliable in the grand scheme of things?
not unreliable, but not inductive of what's happening since they're daily
User banned (1 week): dismissing concerns around homophobia/transphobia
After seeing lots of buzz around the demo and Hero being in Smash I feel like if it doesn't happen now, it's never going to.
It's a shame because fuck, the series is just so darn delightful and fun. I wish more people gave it a shot. Gotta commend SE/Nintendo for putting out such a lengthy demo at least.
It's a shame because fuck, the series is just so darn delightful and fun. I wish more people gave it a shot. Gotta commend SE/Nintendo for putting out such a lengthy demo at least.
You people act as if the homophobic/transphobic stuff in Persona 5 is a major part of the game and not like... a handful of lines in a 100 hour game.
Well as someone who hasn't been in love with JRPGs in recent years and hasn't played the series before, after playing the demo (still have a heap to do mind) I've pre-ordered the game. The charm of it has won me over.
honestly this is all i care about. as long as the series is doing well enough where timely localization of mainline and spin-off titles are a given, that's good enough for me.
Im just talking about persona in general, but it really shouldnt be there at all.
It will launch a couple of days after the release of the Switch Lite. So there's a chance that new Switch owners will pick it up. Especially if stores bundle the console with the game.
I preloaded it for switch with a voucher. Never really owned a Dragon Quest game before and always been a huge final fantasy fan. I've played some of them growing up at a friend's place and 8 was pretty awesome for the time. This will be my first time owning a DQ game and I'm hyped.
Update: I'm now planning on purchasing.
Putting the Hero in Smash and following it up with a meaty demo for an upcoming release was brilliant on their part; I feel the only way it would've been better is if Hero released closer to the demo, and/or if Fire Emblem's release was further away from it. Just went through my friends list and no one who'd be interested in it has actually played it because they're all still playing FE.
There's a lot going for the game, from a great deal of new additional content as well as content from the 3DS version, being in Smash helping to make the hero a recognizable face, a demo of the game currently out on eShop, and Nintendo marketing it where as Square hardly did marketing for the original release. It does still have to deal with a packed September for the Switch though. There's also still a lot of stigma around the series in the west to do great, great numbers like you'd see from Japan's side. I don't think it will be the break out success for the series, but I can still see this game fairing a lot better overall.
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How is that a negative thing for the game and series? There being a half price version I mean.
it'd be a bayonetta situation, where they sell a million copies but it's at bargain bin price. so SE doesn't gain anything since they're not gonna ship new copies once the game hits that point
It won't even be the best rereleased JRPG that month
No FF can compared to DQ. Try again.
That's true, they sell so much more it's not a fair comparison.
I don't care about sales. I am not SE employee or developer in the least sense. Westerners by nature just don't like JRPGs unless it has a gimmick to it and that is fine. DQ is the best series ever next to The Legend of Zelda.
Like you think I care about the west trash taste when it comes to a superb JRPG? Lmao. DQIII wasn't in the top 50 JRPG when every JRPG right now owes its inception to that damn game. It is a damn shame. Y'all keep doing y'all.
JRPGs is one of my favourite genres, but the demo completely unsold me on the game. Didn't like much of it at all. I feel that if they want some real success in the west they need to evolve and not be stuck in the 90s.
Oh sorry, you're right. Now FF may have better story, gameplay, graphics, music, sales, critical reception, but it's the West that's wrong. It's not the series' fault it hasn't popped off.
But the question is about the series breaking out in the West. Brand awareness would be higher regardless of what version or price people are buying the game at.
game will do fine but DQIX is probably the ceiling for about how well DQ can do in the west. people expecting it to "take off" is like watching a charlie brown kicking the football gag every time... there's virtually nothing that would make these games a breakout hit here, and Hori & co. don't seem too fussed with expanding its appeal
We need to bring Jedward back
dear lord. i can't believe i forgot this