Regardless of what happens trump will contest. Even if its a blowout on Election night it'll still be fake news and rigged
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Can Biden win on election night?
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If he wins by a wide enough margin, than I don't think Trump has any solid ground to stand on in contesting. That doesn't mean he won't try, but let's hope Biden get Pennsylvania and Florida to truly blow him out.
Just saying that it is possible. Who knows what's going to happen.
Even my wife is like: you're going to stay up all night watching every percentile change in every state on CNN?
Yeah.
In NC we can put absentee ballots into machines ahead of time but the machine doesn't tabulate or count until 7:30PM of that election day so it's possible Biden will be ahead right then and there.
However, the official tally isn't finished until all absentee ballots are counted. We can mail out ballots on election day and as long as they get them by Friday, Nov 6, they still count. Official results aren't released until the next Friday, Nov 13th, so NC can potentially be an unknown for up to 10 days after election day.
However, the official tally isn't finished until all absentee ballots are counted. We can mail out ballots on election day and as long as they get them by Friday, Nov 6, they still count. Official results aren't released until the next Friday, Nov 13th, so NC can potentially be an unknown for up to 10 days after election day.
I will say Biden probably needs to win Texas by a solid 2 or 3 to carry Hegar over the line. Cornyn polls within a point or two of Trump in all the polls were they're asked together, so he has a little room to outperform Trump, but not a ton. (Though a good chunk of the undecided could end up becoming Biden–Cornyn voters). But yeah, if he wins it clean enough for an election night call, you're probably getting Hegar too, which would be amazing.
Trump readies thousands of attorneys for election fight
Dozens of lawyers from three major firms have been hired. Thousands of volunteer attorneys and poll watchers across the country have been recruited.www.politico.com
People keep lining up to work with him despite his known and well-publicized practice of not paying people.
Remember: Half the battle is Trump convincing you he could do it and you accept it. Stop acting defeated.
I don't think he pays for them personally anyway, although I'm not sure who does. Campaign funds? Someone enlighten me if possible.
We've been trying to get to the bottom of his campaign operations and sources of funding for four years now. There are current federal investigations on this.
sure thats A scenario. a more likely scenario is Biden pulling 400+ electoral votes.
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Two highly rated pollsters, NYT/Sienna and ABC had Biden up 9 yesterday. So looking good. Things seemed to be getting too close for comfort there for a while, but it's hard to tell without much polling or high quality polling.
I hope more than anything Biden wins in an indisputable landslide on election night. The country needs this over and done with.
As someone who lives here, it's gonna be a long shot. I'm more hopeful for other states.
Wow, much better than I expected. Was thinking something below 5 points
I agree, we need it as a country.
Either way Trump is going to contest the results. Hopefully, most mail in ballots are counted by election night so some of these races can be called... But all it's going to take to prevent that is one of MI/WI/PA to not finish by election night and we're in limbo. I would say the odds of that being the case are pretty high. Number of mail in ballots are shattering records already.
Absolutely. Hopefully with everyone turning in their ballots early, they can be tabulated quickly. If he can get Pennsylvania and the Rust Belt to go early..it might be a good night.
Looking good. The Burbs and Women are going to save the day, like it did in 2018
Regardless of where we are after election night, prepare to be dealing with election bullshit well into 2021.
I agree with both of these. I think early voting means that Biden will end up with the win on election night, no thanks to Florida.
A lot of the articles about the issue with mail in ballots are downplaying the fact that these mail in ballots will start arriving well in advance of election night so they can be counted.
If one of PA, FL, or NC is called for Biden that night, it's almost or outright impossible for dipshit to get enough EC votes to win.
If two of the three are called, it is over.
If all three go Biden, Trump would be in serious danger of losing Texas and Georgia as well, and my faith in this country will be slightly restored.
If two of the three are called, it is over.
If all three go Biden, Trump would be in serious danger of losing Texas and Georgia as well, and my faith in this country will be slightly restored.
Russia has been attacking (read: hacking) the US infrastructure for weeks now, if you think everything will go smoothly up to election day you're wrong. Either way your country will have to deal with unprecedented riots/destabilization. If Biden wins, Trump won't recognize the vote and about half of the country won't either, which means more mayhem. If Trump wins, about half of the country won't be satisfied because of the rampant fascism. The only winner here is Russia, who's been pulling the strings since at least 2016 when the USA sold its soul to the highest bidder. The country is in full collapse mode, you just don't see it yet.
If the polls stay where they are, I think it'll get called on election night and I don't think Trump will dispute it until like a week later, after he concedes, but then publicly saying it was stolen, but not taking any legal action. Just a show for his fans so he can create Trump TV in a year or two.
I'm staying optimistic but I'm also keeping my expectations in check. I'm not ready for another whiplash like 2016. Here's hoping the voter turnout is high.
Electoral-Vote.com did a piece on this topic a few weeks ago: https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Sep07.html#item-8
Their conclusion is that North Carolina is a good place to start watching. They can count their ballots starting 2 weeks before Election Day, so their results may be a lot closer to complete than most states. According to their information, Florida can't count ballots until after the polls close, on Election Day. They can only "process", ie prepare to be counted. If that is true, don't expect any relevant information from Florida that night.
Here are a few key states, and when they can process ballots, and when they can count them:
Arizona 14 days before Election Day 14 days before Election Day
Florida 22 days before Election Day After the polls close on Election Day
Michigan Election Day After the polls close on Election Day
North Carolina Local option 14 days before Election Day
Pennsylvania 7 a.m. on Election Day 7 a.m. on Election Day
Wisconsin When the polls open on Election Day When the polls open on Election Day
Their conclusion is that North Carolina is a good place to start watching. They can count their ballots starting 2 weeks before Election Day, so their results may be a lot closer to complete than most states. According to their information, Florida can't count ballots until after the polls close, on Election Day. They can only "process", ie prepare to be counted. If that is true, don't expect any relevant information from Florida that night.
Here are a few key states, and when they can process ballots, and when they can count them:
Arizona 14 days before Election Day 14 days before Election Day
Florida 22 days before Election Day After the polls close on Election Day
Michigan Election Day After the polls close on Election Day
North Carolina Local option 14 days before Election Day
Pennsylvania 7 a.m. on Election Day 7 a.m. on Election Day
Wisconsin When the polls open on Election Day When the polls open on Election Day
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FYI Republicans have challenged this. I'm guessing the SC won't overturn it but you never know.
Possibly, but odds are very low unless it's an absolute blowout landslide. So many are voting by mail and enough swing states have onerous limitations on when those ballots can be processed and counted that it will be hard to have a definitive answer that night. We are probably looking at a couple days at least for 95%+ certainty. Which unfortunately means Trump will be full on his bullshit to try and sow as much chaos and misinformation as he can.
Really hope Joe and the Dems have a literal army of lawyers and just outright bodies on hand to just dominate any court houses or polling places to ensure as little fuckery is tolerated as possible. We cannot allow anything even remotely like Crooks Brothers Riot or SC case like we had in 2000.
Really hope Joe and the Dems have a literal army of lawyers and just outright bodies on hand to just dominate any court houses or polling places to ensure as little fuckery is tolerated as possible. We cannot allow anything even remotely like Crooks Brothers Riot or SC case like we had in 2000.
Yeah agreed. Hanging chads are different than just not wholesale counting votes. He does that the protests we've had so far will look like kids play.
Don't care if the Supreme Court leans conservative. The climate is way different now than it was in 2000.
I mean Trump started an investigation into an election that he won lol He is 110% contesting the results regardless if Biden is declared winner on election night or later, but I think there's a chance Biden could win on election night, but it probably has to be close to a blowout I'd imagine. Love to be wrong though.