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Call of Duty Modern Warfare Xbox One X/S vs PS4/ Pro: A Tech Showcase Tested On All Systems!
- Thread starter chandoog
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TL;DW
- "(Modern Warfare) is a piece of tech designed to scale"
Resolution:
- Xbox One: 1600x900 targed w/ dynamic scaling. Bottoms at 800x900
- Some volumetric elements operate at lower than native resolution
- Base PS4: 1980x1080 w/ dynamic scaling. Bottoms to 960x1080
- Xbox One X: 3840x2160 w/ dynamic scaling. Bottoms at 1920x2160
- PS4 Pro: Only console which scales both x and y axis, tops at 3840x2160p
- Temporal super sampling, filmic AA etc used to reach resolution on mid-gens.
- While Xbox gains clarity but doesn't show a monumental leap in clarity because of the filmic AA solution.
- "Frankly astonishing level of geometry ... 5X more than any previous CoD game"
- Spectral rendering praised. Light sources/ Volumetric etc also praised.
- The lower a system's resolution, the lower resolution volumetric effects which can cause 'tiling' effect on base consoles.
- Besides resolution and the knock-off effect on volumetric, other aspects have visual parity.
Performance:
- Xbox One has persistent low drops from the start of the campaign, hovering at 50.
- Xbox One also has momentarily freezes, hitches at times.
- Xbox One X also suffers drops immediately starting the campaign, but uses adaptive V-sync which can cause tearing but faster response.
- Xbox One X is the only console which uses adaptive V-Sync.
- Performance can drop to mid 40's during campaign, but no hitching like base Xbox One seen.
- XBX: 45 ~ 60 FPS window. Base Xbox 37~60 FPS window.
- XBX 120hz mode enforces V Sync, no tears and less stutters but res drops To ~1080p to 1440p.
- Base PS4 can have a ~10 FPS advantage over Base Xbox in stress areas.
- PS4 still struggles and drops but generally much better than Xbox One
- Both XBX and PS4 Pro can show IO stutters like base XBO.
- Generally PS4 Pro has a performance advantage over XBX, while XBX has advantage in clarity.
- "(Modern Warfare) is a piece of tech designed to scale"
Resolution:
- Xbox One: 1600x900 targed w/ dynamic scaling. Bottoms at 800x900
- Some volumetric elements operate at lower than native resolution
- Base PS4: 1980x1080 w/ dynamic scaling. Bottoms to 960x1080
- Xbox One X: 3840x2160 w/ dynamic scaling. Bottoms at 1920x2160
- PS4 Pro: Only console which scales both x and y axis, tops at 3840x2160p
- Temporal super sampling, filmic AA etc used to reach resolution on mid-gens.
- While Xbox gains clarity but doesn't show a monumental leap in clarity because of the filmic AA solution.
- "Frankly astonishing level of geometry ... 5X more than any previous CoD game"
- Spectral rendering praised. Light sources/ Volumetric etc also praised.
- The lower a system's resolution, the lower resolution volumetric effects which can cause 'tiling' effect on base consoles.
- Besides resolution and the knock-off effect on volumetric, other aspects have visual parity.
Performance:
- Xbox One has persistent low drops from the start of the campaign, hovering at 50.
- Xbox One also has momentarily freezes, hitches at times.
- Xbox One X also suffers drops immediately starting the campaign, but uses adaptive V-sync which can cause tearing but faster response.
- Xbox One X is the only console which uses adaptive V-Sync.
- Performance can drop to mid 40's during campaign, but no hitching like base Xbox One seen.
- XBX: 45 ~ 60 FPS window. Base Xbox 37~60 FPS window.
- XBX 120hz mode enforces V Sync, no tears and less stutters but res drops To ~1080p to 1440p.
- Base PS4 can have a ~10 FPS advantage over Base Xbox in stress areas.
- PS4 still struggles and drops but generally much better than Xbox One
- Both XBX and PS4 Pro can show IO stutters like base XBO.
- Generally PS4 Pro has a performance advantage over XBX, while XBX has advantage in clarity.
The summary sounds about the same from the beta, iirc. PS4 Pro seems to have the best performance and doesn't tear. But it consistently runs at a lower res than the XB1X. And the OG XB1 is really struggling comparatively.
I would have expected they would try to analyze the stress points of the X version vs the same scene in the Pro, I realize this game is a bugger to pixel count but would have been interesting to see how much more resolution the X was outputting in those scenes where it's dropping regularly vs the same scene in the Pro where it's performing better.
Probably had to really add the polish to make the most of their partnership. I wouldn't be happy with marketing rights and a less shiny version of the game.
Whilst performance is king, the beta was incredibly blurry on the X, has this changed at all in release as I'd dread to think what the PS4P version was like?
It's not entirely unprecedented, Shadow of the Tomb Raider for example had the Pro's resolution mode at 1440p (or dynamic up to that), but it was a locked 30fps. The X version was just under 4k in its resolution mode, but dropped below 30fps often (don't know if that was fixed later). Sometimes devs overshoot the X's GPU budget a tad, I bet this will eventually be fixed in the X with the dynamic scaler moving the both axis or just becoming more aggressive, as they did with Wolfenstein 2 to fix the frame rate drops there.
So I have the Sony X900E, and rtings says that it has a 120Hz native refresh rate. Should I turn on my Xbox One X 120Hz mode to improve performance?
Respectfully, I disagree. PS cares about the add rights and the first on PS tag line. I'd argue DF and frames analysis doesn't get any attention outside of the core audience. COD is the dude bro of dude bro shooters drops to 45 on either platform pale in comparison to the promise of early beta and early content.
Thats why I am sticking with a 1080p monitor for my PS4 Pro and eventually PS5. Performance >>>>> IQ.
While we already know by stuff that's come out before that the Ps4 Pro version is the best version to be playing, because it holds 60fps more than the X. I am honestly shocked the the Xbox one plays and looks as bad as it does. Wow just wow.
So disappointed with the tearing on the X. No excuse. I don't know why I continue to buy these games on the X. I'm the sucker. Never again.
The game is poorly optimized on the One X. The fan goes crazy in pregame lobbies but doesn't make a sound when in a match. Dropping frames a lot in campaign... I paused the game for a minute in campaign and it hardlocked and shut down my console when I returned.
The campaign was a clusterfuck to play on the Xbox One X, so many framerate issues during key moments that made firefights feel sluggish and awful.
The last level had severe issues, the character would stop sprinting when the hitches would occur, it's crazy.
Multiplayer fortunately is an entirely different story, just some minor framerate drops from what I can tell in the 6v6 modes.
The last level had severe issues, the character would stop sprinting when the hitches would occur, it's crazy.
Multiplayer fortunately is an entirely different story, just some minor framerate drops from what I can tell in the 6v6 modes.
The way that this game can scale and adapt makes me believe that it would run at 4k60fps on next generation consoles without any need for a patch.
Yep, that's why most devs are now using scaling on their games, so that they don't need to patch games next gen.
I hooked m X up to my Freesync Monitor since the game tears like hell on my 4k TV. So much better.
The One X is the only version that employs adaptive v-sync.
Also suffers sporadic framerates and hitches.
So bad that I played three levels of the campaign and switched to the Pro.
Fucking ridiculous that this was optimized so poorly for the 'most powerful system.'
Bought the eighty-dollar edition of this game for One X and Pro to support Activision and Infinity Ward for allowing crossplay, but might have to look into whether or not I can refund the Xbox version.
Apologies for the derail, but does anyone know what the requirements are to refund a digital purchase on Xbox?
Also suffers sporadic framerates and hitches.
So bad that I played three levels of the campaign and switched to the Pro.
Fucking ridiculous that this was optimized so poorly for the 'most powerful system.'
Bought the eighty-dollar edition of this game for One X and Pro to support Activision and Infinity Ward for allowing crossplay, but might have to look into whether or not I can refund the Xbox version.
Apologies for the derail, but does anyone know what the requirements are to refund a digital purchase on Xbox?
It sounds like you feel the dip in visual clarity is worth it for the better performance. I'm thinking of making the change, too. The frame drops I can live with in the campaign, but the screen tearing sucks.
Does the Xbox One X version tear that much? I have it installed and ready to play, but just haven't found time. Don't want to watch the DF video as I don't want to spoil anything...
Tears quite often in MP. I haven't touched the campaign yet.
Don't recall seeing tearing in the beta during normal competitive multiplayer.
I swear it was limited to Ground War, but I could be misremembering.
Almost/Native 4K means nothing if I'm seeing tearing at the top of the screen consistently during multiplayer and campaign, in addition to framerate issues and hitches in the latter.
Exactly and I would be shocked if they fixed it. Just upset with myself for falling for the hype again and purchasing on the X.
Sadly, I'd wager you're right.
When it comes to the 1X, the only thing the devs have announced is they are working with Microsoft to investigate and/or fix the crashes.
(I'm sure, if anything, Microsoft's telling them "optimize your game and it won't crash our consoles.")
Pretty absurd that the crashes are the only main issues they're recognizing on the X.
As if the stuttering, tearing, and framerate drops aren't even a concern.
Nice to see they spruced up the Pro's performance between beta and retail.
Just wish they cared enough to say the X's performance issues will be looked into (and hopefully addressed) after they get the crashes taken care of.
Lol.
Two hours is pretty anemic, but I can see how that system could be abused otherwise.
Looks like I'm stuck with it.
Next year, I'll have to wait for the DF Analysis before purchasing, then.
Thanks for the info!
While the game does look stunning, I found it strange how some vegetation are just static elements. This is visible even in the very first mission, where trees and leaves are not animated at all.
It's strange that DF found no tearing on Xbox One S. Here's a screenshot of screen tearing on Xbox One that I captured a few minutes ago.
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That's always been the case for COD games really very much like the 1st Rage game. The game does look stunning mind and it plays stunning with the best firefights since FEAR IMO. I just sad not more credit is given to the game sound effects and the quality of them. They're off the scale amazing and just fill the room with sound and really put you into the game.
Have to say the One S version looks so blocky in places while all the other version looks brilliant
120Hz mode drops the res to 1440p-1080p which helps with stable framerate and tearing. Its doesn't actually reach anywhere near 120hz.
Should I try a refund on Xbox one X and get pro ? I'm already level 20 multi and didn't play solo. If it's just the campaign I'll play it once and that it. And I played only 6/10v6/10 on Xbox and didn't notice and framerate or vsync issue
I just tried the beta on pro and hated how blurry it was hence my Xbox order
I just tried the beta on pro and hated how blurry it was hence my Xbox order
I bought the PC version first and played it on the highest settings (excluding RTX) on my 1070. Because of the movie stuttering and glitches on mission 3, I double dipped on the PS4 pro version. I'm surprised at the quality of the PS4 version. Without doing a side by side comparison, the ps4 version looks quite on par with PC on its highest settings
