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Call of Duty Modern Warfare: Deep-Dive Tech Breakdown + PS4 vs PS4 Pro Campaign Mode Tested! | Digital Foundry
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Not weird. We didn't have access until Friday, basically, and the guys worked all Saturday just to get this up. Wouldn't have been possible to do more for this first video - others coming soon, I'm sure. If we had access earlier, this could have been avoided.
I appreciate these videos but calling the base PS4 performance "bad" and a "horror scenario" feels hyperbolic to me.
I am a console only gamer so I can appreciate that I naturally have lower standards compared to people used to gaming on top end PCs but I don't think most console gamers would call what is shown in the video "bad" or a "horror scenario". Not ideal? Definitely. But I've played FPSs with way worse framerates than that this gen.
I am a console only gamer so I can appreciate that I naturally have lower standards compared to people used to gaming on top end PCs but I don't think most console gamers would call what is shown in the video "bad" or a "horror scenario". Not ideal? Definitely. But I've played FPSs with way worse framerates than that this gen.
Did they manage to improve Xbox One S version? From what I could tell from your previous video, it was absolutely horrendous.
Yup
haven't even touched the campaign yet, but I'm loving the multiplayer
When you hardly have anything to nitpick, interest is down.
When they do a face off between xbox and and ps, we'll have more replies for obvious reasons.
No doubt we'll have a DF vid comparing the Xbox One X version to the PC version in the interest of fairness?. The lack of a GRID comparison on all systems is puzzling too
Ok, I keep seeing comments like this. First, though, the video itself mentions that the Xbox video is coming.
Videos take time to make. You don't magically include different versions - each console adds a ton of time to production. Did you know that Alex and Tom worked all Saturday just to get this done?
Or that they didn't get access to the game until launch day?
I'm already working insane hours along with these guys and it's just not possible to keep up.
Can we get DF thread that include comments that try to subtly imply that DF is bias? It's getting fucking obnoxious.
Good work DF, as always.
If someone cant't wait for the next video, you can already find framerate comparision with Xboxes from VGTech:
And also some more here:
(but that capture is rather poor)
If someone cant't wait for the next video, you can already find framerate comparision with Xboxes from VGTech:
https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=svyfumqPD_w&event=video_description&q=https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gqywiuywghp1hdInldO84lTpXvdaKLje?usp=sharing&redir_token=XJ_Jw-_oINFUfp7_uq10839PqkR8MTU3MjI0NzQ5N0AxNTcyMTYxMDk3
And also some more here:
(but that capture is rather poor)
I don't think they had a chance to even try it due to the short production schedule.
Looking more and more like the base consoles simply aren't the target for developers now.
Next gen can't come soon enough for these lot.
The game looks pretty great on Pro and I'm sure One X and to be honest, I'm sure most people will likely live with the base PS4 performance and MP should be solid. Base Xbox is going to be a mess though isn't it.
Then of course when you miss stuff because people demand the content yesterday, you're shit incompetents for that too.
Just do what you can do in the time you can do so and don't compromise on your work for anyone else but... well your bosses!
Next gen can't come soon enough for these lot.
The game looks pretty great on Pro and I'm sure One X and to be honest, I'm sure most people will likely live with the base PS4 performance and MP should be solid. Base Xbox is going to be a mess though isn't it.
You know that if you can't magic up every comparison in minutes after release then you're shit incompetents.
Then of course when you miss stuff because people demand the content yesterday, you're shit incompetents for that too.
Just do what you can do in the time you can do so and don't compromise on your work for anyone else but... well your bosses!
It is and it's supposedly incredible.
Yeah, it only really matters when there is an actual issue (ie - the game is really blurry or performance is bad). For most games today? Not a big deal.
I see. I appreciate all the hard work you guys put on these videos!
No need for the language or the silly insult .I See little point in comparing a game running on the PS4 to one running on the PS4 Pro in the same way Isee little point in comparing a PC game to one running on the ONE X it's a given the PRO and PC versions are going to be better . It's more interesting when consoles versions are compared to each other IMO
Can anyone voice an opinion with out the need to see it as an attack ? I see no point in comparing COD running on the Pro to the base , in much the same way I don't see the point in comparing a game running on the one X to a PC Rather when the comparison is done with the game running on the base consoles and the enhanced ones; you get a fair complete picture and it's also great to see the differences
So I would rather have waited for the full complete comparison for COD and GRID. It's just a opinion, sorry ! Yes, I know and can appreciate it's hard work, but other comparison sites have for their videos up . I happen to like DF comparisons the best would like to see their take.
You'd think that people would be most interested in just seeing how the game runs on the system they own rather than care about some comparison that is mainly useful for console wars.
It's your wording that's the issue and a lack of understanding of the process. That's fine, though.
Either way, here's the thing - doing base and 'enhanced' consoles is easy because they share the same file and it's easy to line-up shots in comparison. It becomes more difficult when have two platforms.
Other sites, like VG Tech, have an advantage in that they just present the raw data. Which is great for those looking for that info! We're not here to just provide that so, if all you care about are raw numbers, go there. VG Tech is awesome too and deserves support for providing that kind of data! That's a good reason why both exist.
So, basically, the production requirements are MUCH higher when doing a fully edited piece. These guys started working on Friday and worked until Saturday night - no breaks.
I really hope to break away from people just wanting raw FPS and resolution numbers, though, as I don't think it's usually interesting and it brings out horrible console wars mentality in people which sucks..
Another thing - by waiting even longer to do all versions in one video, it ends up costing us a lot of views due to how YT works and the buzz of new releases. So it's a very tough situation. We do the best we can in the limited time available.
All this bragging about COD's HDR. It's great but I think Gears 5 is better IMO. At least developers are taking it seriously.
Urgh. Can't say I like the town where I was born and raised being used in this military wank-fest but it is what it is, I guess.
I like my games to be smooth.
That said, I grew up with a ZX Spectrum, so when I see frame rates like this described as a "horror scenario" it makes me laugh. The hyperbole around this stuff - partly thanks to these kind of comparison videos - is ridiculous.
They only got access to the game on Friday, which was like two days ago at most, and since Sony handles the marketing, the review code they had on hands was only for PS4. And in a million years they aren't going to delay the videos further. In this business timing is crucial. Some times people just need to take content at face value and appreciate what it is.
Thanks for this, Adam is awesome for making these I'll watch when I have the chance.
Just wanted to say thank you and show my respect for the team working so hard to deliver quality videos like this, it doesn't go unnoticed.
Looking at the VG Tech framerate video the X version is a bit all over the place. At times dips below the vanilla PS4.
Will be interesting to see the DF analysis which will go into more detail.
Will be interesting to see the DF analysis which will go into more detail.
I watched that too. I would guess the resolution scaler isn't being aggressive enough.
Yes I understand that . Do we really need DF to tell us COD will be better on the PRO? I would rather see how COD plays on the Base PS4 to that of the base Xbox One and the same for One X Vs the PRO If that meant a few weeks wait that's fair enough.
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There is no need to be condensing.
Do we really need an VS video to tell us that COD runs better on the Pro than the base PS4?
rther see how the base PS4 version plays to that of the base Xbox One ECT. If that takes a few weeks more work then that's OK .
Grid been out for a couple of weeks rather seen how the game fairs on all console platform's .Not that I see what's so great about the Switch port of a game running on Hardware that's now 19 years old ;)
DF is a channel for people who do care about frame rate drops, and outside of the PS4 Pro version of this game, the other consoles spend sustained stretches under 60fps. That sucks. If you don't care about such stuff and don't like it being called out, maybe you shouldn't watch their videos?
Maybe you should start your own YouTube channel to analyze this stuff. Since you know how to do it the right way I'm sure you'll be really successful at it. For now it would be cool if you stop you're whining in this thread.
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Really? Gosh I had no idea.
Seriously mate, that's not what I said was it? I just called out the hyperbolic language not the substance of the video. Some reading comprehension wouldn't go amiss on your side.
You directly complained about their analysis of games being partly to blame for other people getting upset about this stuff. I think I comprehended that line just fine.