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Call Of Duty Cold War "Zombie Onslaught" Mode exclusive to Playstation until November 2021
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Probably easier to get exclusive content deals when you have a demanding market position.
I remember for the first half of the PS360 era, MS had timed exclusives for damn near everything lol.
And as shitty as this kind of stuff is, I wish we could go back to the time when this was the worst concern. Gonna be fucking awful if we end this gen with Bethesda, Capcom, SE, Take2, WB, Ubisoft, etc. (and all their classic IP) being locked down to one of the platform holders (be it MS, Sony, Google, or Amazon).
"Temporary", this is exclusive for the lifetime of the game essentially, a new CoD will be out when the deal is up.
Probably not given they did the same thing last year, it's just part of their shitty marketing deal after Acti stopped doing map packs. The mode will be a complete afterthought due to it like Spec Ops Survival was.
500 Free Atoms for Fallout 76. Lol.
Phil doesn't like gating content in multiplat games and it's not their strategy. Although some may argue Tetris Effect Connected, but that game was also kept off Xbox for years so idk.
And loses out on tons of games due to market share and preference of devs. The number of games that come out on everything but Xbox is crazy. That's partially why they are unifying the PC and Xbox SDKs.
You say this even though someone literally just pointed out to you an example of them doing it recently? lol
It's less about how good the modes are and more about reinforcing the impression that the PlayStation version is the best version and the one to get.
It's great marketing, and COD is a major system seller.
By this reasoning, it's hard to fault Sony for buying those timed exclusives you just listed, when during the Xbox 360 era Microsoft got:
-1 year timed exclusivity for Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
-10 month timed exclusivity for Bioshock
- 2-9 month timed exclusivity for Fallout 3's DLC packs
-1 year timed exclusivity for Mass Effect 2
-and other smaller exclusivity deals that I'm sure I'm forgetting
They were just "fighting back" against Microsoft's exclusivity deals after all.
Listen, call out any company that you think is doing shitty things, I fully support that. But DON'T try to pretend like Sony forced or provoked Microsoft into "fighting back" as if they're some peaceful bystander and Sony started mugging them on the street.
Businesses try to secure deals that are beneficial to their console platform and their customers. They always have done it, and they always will. Sony does it, Microsoft does it, Nintendo does it.
It's a side mode, not the main zombie mode. If it's like Spec Ops Survival it's just a wave mode on a few of the MP maps.
Never, DLCs came to Xbox only a month before, not a year. And the base games had the same amount of content.
lol at people crying over this seeing as how MS literally just bought an entire publisher. This is nowhere on the same level and anyone trying to say so is being naive.
So, standing inside the orb's barrier will protect you from Dark Aether's damage, huh?...
...nobody ever gives Call of Duty enough credit for how truly inventive and original it can be
...nobody ever gives Call of Duty enough credit for how truly inventive and original it can be
Exclusive stuff aside this mode looks great to me. Maybe even better than the usual zombies mode which got so complicated trying to figure out what to do and where to go next.
I don't believe there was any exclusivity on Oblivion. It was originally supposed to come out year before the PS3 released, was delayed a year and iirc they had issues developing on the system (not related to the PS3 ram issue with Skyrim) and handed it off to 4J so they could continue working on FO3 and TES:V. I don't know anything about the others you mentioned though.
Oh cool.
So only an exclusive until the next game comes out and this one becomes obsolete.
Awesome.
So only an exclusive until the next game comes out and this one becomes obsolete.
Awesome.
It's a side mode that I bet most of the player base will probably never bother with. Not a huge loss to Xbox/PC IMO
Eh, agree to disagree. Sony is clearly being more aggressive this time around in hopes to fade MS into irrelevance. Its clear by industry vets and insiders echoing similar points. Still feels like fighting back.
That seems like a thin excuse to me. Why would Microsoft securing timed exclusive deals for some of the highest profile third party games of the entire gen not count as "trying to fade Sony into irrelevance" but it counts when it subsequently happens the other way around?
We can agree to disagree, but I side with the data, and the historical data shows that this is nothing unprecedented or one-sided
It arguably would not count due to market share. Sony outsold Xbox over 2:1. One is attempting to earn back marketshare, the other is utilizing its existing marketshare to further push competition out, at least on paper. In execution, especially with the looming streaming wars, the situation is not as black or white for either side here.
Because at that time Xbox was trying to battle the industry titan.... not coming from a gen where they savagely destroyed their competitor in every aspect of gaming
I get what you're saying but look at the numbers from the Xbox 360 / PS3 gen:
More data here
This is total sales through April 2009, and as you can see Xbox was outselling PS3 roughly 2:1. Many of those timed exclusive deals (Fallout 3 DLC, Bioshock, etc.) happened before April 2009. While Microsoft was in this dominant position they were also securing timed exclusivity for giant games like Mass Effect 2. So Microsoft wasn't fighting to earn back marketshare with those deals, it was trying to shove PS3 out of the market, just like we're seeing now that the tables are turned.
Businesses will always use a dominant position in the market to their advantage to secure more big deals, because the stronger their position already is, the cheaper big deals like that become.
Oh, undoubtedly. Granted, with Mass Effect 2 they did publish the first so it may have been a contractual obligation on EA's end, but agreed overall. These deals become cheaper the more market share you get, which then begets more market share. Something of a vicious cycle for sure.I get what you're saying but look at the numbers from the Xbox 360 / PS3 gen:
More data here
This is total sales through April 2009, and as you can see Xbox was outselling PS3 roughly 2:1. Many of those timed exclusive deals (Fallout 3 DLC, Bioshock, etc.) happened before April 2009. While Microsoft was in this dominant position they were also securing timed exclusivity for giant games like Mass Effect 2. So Microsoft wasn't fighting to earn back marketshare with those deals, it was trying to shove PS3 out of the market, just like we're seeing now that the tables are turned.
Businesses will always use a dominant position in the market to their advantage to secure more big deals, because the stronger their position already is, the cheaper big deals like that become.
This is shitty but it's par for the course. Call of Duty is just a mouth turning tricks for Activision.
not true. See the data I posted above to Deo-- Xbox was absolutely in the dominant position for much of the 360/PS3 gen, and they were already in that position as they were striking big exclusivity deals. They didn't claw their way to parity and then stopped doing exclusivity deals -- they kept using their strong position to get even more big deals to try to crush PS3 even more.
It's what every business does when they find themselves in a strong position where they can get even more big deals for an even cheaper price. It's a snowball effect
Please stop spreading so much truth. The narratives and victim complexes are more important.
Can't say this excites me (Can't say normal zombies excites me - don't eat me, bro). But, timed exclusive modes in AAA games still sucks. AND THEY'RE STILL PAYING FOR YEAR LONG DEALS. Cmon. I thought we were past this with Destiny.
Here's the real problem - How many people on the internet see that trailer and go "Oh shit, Zombies is exclusive to PS5?!?! Well Xbox got fucked haha, guess we're not getting it there!". Don't forget that PlayStation has the very tight marketing deal that allows them to do a pretty decent degree of narrative control. It may not be a big deal for players (and certainly isn't for me, personally). But it is a scummy move exacerbated by a kinda scummy presentation.
Here's the real problem - How many people on the internet see that trailer and go "Oh shit, Zombies is exclusive to PS5?!?! Well Xbox got fucked haha, guess we're not getting it there!". Don't forget that PlayStation has the very tight marketing deal that allows them to do a pretty decent degree of narrative control. It may not be a big deal for players (and certainly isn't for me, personally). But it is a scummy move exacerbated by a kinda scummy presentation.
I was pissed at first until I read "2 player". Not gonna play with a stranger hahaha.
For some reason I hate 2v2's. I prefer at least 4 for my buddies to play together.
For some reason I hate 2v2's. I prefer at least 4 for my buddies to play together.
I'm in the situation where I'm getting the series X first and my mate is getting the PS5 first and we both just preordered COD on our respective systems. I just paid the same price for the game and will receive less content, so we won't be able to play that mode together. It's just a shitty move for consumers and I hate that some people seek to justify it. Again, I am paying the same price for less content, that sucks.
Was devastated when I thought it was the classic "zombies" mode. But its some co-op mode that won't get much play. But that's the point, confuse people into thinking Zombies is exclusive.
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