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Black Ops Cold War Prestige System: Seasonal, Master Ranks - Charlie INTEL
We've finally got the full details on the progression system for Black Ops Cold War.charlieintel.com
Thanks! So no regular prestiges, call me weird but I kinda liked losing everything and starting the unlock process from scratch with a flat EXP boost and some other bonuses, so I'm bummed to hear this. In fact, this doesn't really sound like prestige at all, sounds like it's almost identical to MW's officer levels, except that you'll get a small milestone reward every 50 levels and no new challenges unlock via leveling up? I suppose BOCW does have a lot more regular challenges to grind, so that's not a huge issue.
Seems to be the case every year. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, new CoD discussions are always disproportionately negative compared to seemingly anything else I see in gaming. Combine that with a forum format like reddit with its absolutely shitty voting systems and the userbase big subreddits tend to have and you've got a fucking mess in your hands.
e: I'm seeing people who don't have issues with SBMM getting called "not good enough for SBMM to kick in" which is just funny.
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U also get a prestige key for each prestige to buy stuff in the prestige shop. Items in this shop are unique to this shop, u can´t get them otherwise. Each season u get 20 new MP challenges and 20 new zombie challenges.
It´s a really good system in my opinion. Much better than it was in MW.
Oh right, the prestige shop thing does sound pretty neat. Shouldn't be that long until I reach level 55, so I'll just have to see for myself how it all feels. Really the main thing here is that I just want to have challenges to grind for a while. I tended to really enjoy the first 20-30 officer ranks in MW, since they went by fast, they offered varied challenges to grind and, most importantly, none of the challenges involved playing Warzone. Shame they dropped the ball wrt the last part somewhere along the way.
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Watch this:
Honestly the only reason why I'm thinking about buying it at all, would really love to try this stuff out (but I guess plenty of other shooters will do this down the line).
Saw at least one post on reddit that I can definitely agree with: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackopsco..._thought_this_game_was_supposed_to_encourage/
My scoreboards look like that fairly often. It's the kill multiplier. Why the hell was that introduced?
The whole point of scorestreaks over killstreaks is to encourage people to PTFO, and kill multipliers being a thing is the exact opposite of that. It's not quite as bad regular killstreaks, but I still don't understand why they decided to make the scorestreak changes.
I do actually like the scorestreak system otherwise, though, I think it's nice that death doesn't reset anything. But they should've probably made it so everything that nets you score also raises the multiplier a bit, so you could actually get streaks by just playing objectives too.
e: that's the only post I'll really agree with, though. God, the people on that site are so eager to shit on the devs that I can't believe I managed to actually find a couple of relatively positive posts. At least take your anger out on the game itself and not the devs directly, who most likely have had a fucking awful year. Assholes.
My scoreboards look like that fairly often. It's the kill multiplier. Why the hell was that introduced?
The whole point of scorestreaks over killstreaks is to encourage people to PTFO, and kill multipliers being a thing is the exact opposite of that. It's not quite as bad regular killstreaks, but I still don't understand why they decided to make the scorestreak changes.
I do actually like the scorestreak system otherwise, though, I think it's nice that death doesn't reset anything. But they should've probably made it so everything that nets you score also raises the multiplier a bit, so you could actually get streaks by just playing objectives too.
e: that's the only post I'll really agree with, though. God, the people on that site are so eager to shit on the devs that I can't believe I managed to actually find a couple of relatively positive posts. At least take your anger out on the game itself and not the devs directly, who most likely have had a fucking awful year. Assholes.
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3080 owner here (Palit model). Playing at 1440p with a 10900k processor.
On multiplayer with everything maxed and rtx on (apart from sun shadows which for some reason causes me mild stutter in certain maps like Moscow) I am getting between 100 and 140 fps. It does vary wildly though.
Haven't tried campaign yet. I assume frames will be a fair bit lower.
4K / Ultra Ray Tracing / Balanced DLSS got me around 110+ fps on the first two missions but I am getting 70+ in Vietnam. Multiplayer fps is around 90+.
This is with Ryzen 3700x.
Playing combined arms domination on Cartel made me warm up to the map a little. It's such a chaotic shitshow that it's actually kind of enjoyable.
I like it. But it's undercooked.
loving the duasense on ps5. Adds immersion. I use it on in MP. I'm no pro but I think it adds something to the games. Very visceral and tactile combo. Plus the 3d audio is fantastic.
loving the duasense on ps5. Adds immersion. I use it on in MP. I'm no pro but I think it adds something to the games. Very visceral and tactile combo. Plus the 3d audio is fantastic.
I went in on BO because of the weapon crossover in WZ. I've been a fairly casual COD fan throughout the years, but WZ/MW brought me back in.
I played a lot of BO this weekend (Prestige 1). I really wanted to give it a fair chance post BETA. This game is fine. That's the best and worst thing I can say about it. In a world where MW, Destiny, R6S, and a dozen other good shooters exist BO just feels dated and down right "janky".
The most frustrating part about all of it is there's a good idea here for a COD - the execution was just bad (not to mention Covid didn't help).
The good
-The Menu UI is great. Layout is solid and easier to digest than WZ and MW.
-Main menu music is a banger
-I've only played a small portion of the SP, but it looks great.
-Zombies mode is great. There's way more depth than I realized and I've never really been a big fan of this part of the franchise.
The Bad
- Mounting has replaced more camping and head glitching
- Map Design - The classic COD Carousel/3 lanes is gone. Crossroads is the best map because it follows that design.
- Player Visibility - The head glitching just exacerbates being able to see enemy players (the flashlight mod helps, but not enough) Also, because of player visibility you are better off just holding positions instead of moving around.
- Hit registration/net code - The game feels wildly inconsistent in gun fights. It almost feels like a dice roll at times.
- Aiming - even on PC the aiming "feels" wrong
- Gun fight feedback - after you loose a gunfight the audio freaks out and you often get a hitch of lag. I don't know how else to describe it other than more jank.
- Weapon Leveling + Camos - I loved WZ/MW so much I went for Damascus starting in S3 (and did Obisidian AMAX). The Mastery camos in this game look straight out of the 360/PS3 generation. You can even see the UV seam in diamonds on a few guns.
This has already become a wall of text and a lot of the issues have been echoed here and other places. At the end of the day I am just disappointed after how much time I've put into MW/WZ this over the course of the year. I really hope with some additional patches they can get this game to a better state. It's a real shame.
I played a lot of BO this weekend (Prestige 1). I really wanted to give it a fair chance post BETA. This game is fine. That's the best and worst thing I can say about it. In a world where MW, Destiny, R6S, and a dozen other good shooters exist BO just feels dated and down right "janky".
The most frustrating part about all of it is there's a good idea here for a COD - the execution was just bad (not to mention Covid didn't help).
The good
-The Menu UI is great. Layout is solid and easier to digest than WZ and MW.
-Main menu music is a banger
-I've only played a small portion of the SP, but it looks great.
-Zombies mode is great. There's way more depth than I realized and I've never really been a big fan of this part of the franchise.
The Bad
- Mounting has replaced more camping and head glitching
- Map Design - The classic COD Carousel/3 lanes is gone. Crossroads is the best map because it follows that design.
- Player Visibility - The head glitching just exacerbates being able to see enemy players (the flashlight mod helps, but not enough) Also, because of player visibility you are better off just holding positions instead of moving around.
- Hit registration/net code - The game feels wildly inconsistent in gun fights. It almost feels like a dice roll at times.
- Aiming - even on PC the aiming "feels" wrong
- Gun fight feedback - after you loose a gunfight the audio freaks out and you often get a hitch of lag. I don't know how else to describe it other than more jank.
- Weapon Leveling + Camos - I loved WZ/MW so much I went for Damascus starting in S3 (and did Obisidian AMAX). The Mastery camos in this game look straight out of the 360/PS3 generation. You can even see the UV seam in diamonds on a few guns.
This has already become a wall of text and a lot of the issues have been echoed here and other places. At the end of the day I am just disappointed after how much time I've put into MW/WZ this over the course of the year. I really hope with some additional patches they can get this game to a better state. It's a real shame.
I love Extracting in Zombies. It's a fantastic addition. I tried to extract at 21 but got overwhelmed, so I went to 16 and managed to get past.
I just really really really need to get level 55. So many things I want to upgrade that require higher levels.
Maybe it's just me but even with double exp and weapon xp... It doesn't seem to level that fast.
I just really really really need to get level 55. So many things I want to upgrade that require higher levels.
Maybe it's just me but even with double exp and weapon xp... It doesn't seem to level that fast.
Cartel in beta and now is one my most enjoyed maps, I don't understand the complete hate of it or love for other maps that I think are just shitty too lol.
I tried playing on a controller yesterday and I had to put the effort to aim.
You can also tell who's using Cronus because of it
Control might be my favourite new MP mode... it's like the best parts of TDM and Headquarters rolled in to one.
Basically this.
When Black Ops 4 released it felt like everybody complained about the specialists, weapon skins and so on and people said they liked WWII much more. This happened until last year when Modern Warfare released. Then everybody complained about the SBMM, the low TTK, shitty maps, no prestige, worst CoD ever and so on. And guess what... Now CW released, people are complaining about shitty Maps, SBMM, bad weapon balancing and at the same time last years CoD is praised.
Same procedure every year.
The core gunplay/gameplay is so good. But so much of the game feels lacking or behind a gen. Can't believe it launched not even properly connected progression wise with the other games still, this should have been a unified platform from day one. And there was too much shown off in beta when only a handful of guns, scorestreaks, etc were not included. And of course everyone has gone over the map situation. Why even hold a map back one week after release? So odd how the game seems held back
For me it's just that the middle of the map is a nightmare when it comes to actually seeing anything, it's the only time I've had any real visibility issues with the game. It's the kind of map I'd probably enjoy if I was playing a slower paced game mode where that lack of visibility is something you could actually play with, but in a fast paced mode I find myself just ignoring the middle of the map since it's just a death trap.
Battlefield guy buying my first ever COD! 120fps + innovative DualSense support sold me, plus after binging 6 seasons of The Americans I'm primed for Reagan-era espionage fuckery.
I also needed something more 'pick up & play' for PS5, and wasn't really in the mood for NBA2K.
I also needed something more 'pick up & play' for PS5, and wasn't really in the mood for NBA2K.
And here I thought this was about SBMM, but the whole game seems to be a shit-show. Well....
In regards to Reagan in the campaign...
Spoilers, obviously.
Spoilers, obviously.
I saw some people say that the game put him in a good light? I feel like it did the opposite? Wasn't it because of his orders all of the nukes were planted in Europe in the first place? He who also authorized all of the fucked up shit the CIA was doing? Like a lot of the campaign's problems are directly as a result of his policies.
I don't think the campaign completely vilifies him, but I do feel like it doesn't advocate for him either.
I don't think the campaign completely vilifies him, but I do feel like it doesn't advocate for him either.
I feel like anyone that says hes portrayed in a good light only watched the first cutscene with him and judged it based on that. I mean for gods sake you are literally given the option to fuck Adler's squad up and side with the soviets. CoD usually jerks off the USA military and govt but this felt pretty different. Even the """good""" ending isnt really good and there's an understanding that Adler, Hudson, Reagan and everyone involved in general is a shity, untrustworthy person
I guess unpopular opinion but the complaints about the mp5 are crazy. I don't care for it personally, it does not feel overpowered at all and when I get killed by it, I don't ever blame it on the other side using that specific gun. There are issues with the balance in the game overall, but everyone harping on the mp5 is crazy to me. We are a long way from the 3 hit kill ump back in the day.
Also, is scoring off in domination? Pushing the objective is not granting the kind of spm I'm used to.
edit: I should clarify that clearly the testing by ace and those guys shows the mp5 to be stat superior in ttk close up. My point is that using it and getting killed by it does not feel cheap. You don't feel like a god using it. It is outclassed by the likes of the m16 in almost every situation if your aim is on point etc.
Also, is scoring off in domination? Pushing the objective is not granting the kind of spm I'm used to.
edit: I should clarify that clearly the testing by ace and those guys shows the mp5 to be stat superior in ttk close up. My point is that using it and getting killed by it does not feel cheap. You don't feel like a god using it. It is outclassed by the likes of the m16 in almost every situation if your aim is on point etc.
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Black ops 4 was objectively bad because of Specialist, WWII is WWII and you shouldn't listen to people who said Cold War has bad maps and say MW19 is better.
Well the honeymoon phase lasted the weekend. I think I'm done with the multiplayer for a while until they can get some fresh (or classic) maps into the mix and hopefully address the streak system. Even with double xp in the mix right now, I just want to go play something else because the multi is just not fun, at least solo. SBMM makes playing a chore on top of the mediocre maps.
I know they were handicapped with dev time and covid as well, but I am excited to play zero of these maps. If I threw a dart at a board with all of trayarchs past boots on the ground maps, it would land on a map better than this lot 90%+ of the time.
I know they were handicapped with dev time and covid as well, but I am excited to play zero of these maps. If I threw a dart at a board with all of trayarchs past boots on the ground maps, it would land on a map better than this lot 90%+ of the time.
There is one thing that I find really annoying in all COD SP campaigns, and that is the fact that most firefights are about fighting constant waves of enemies. Like, where are all these people coming from? Why do they attack like it is WW1?
It becomes really difficult buy into the whole special ops narrative when the special forces finish every mission with a epic shootout during which they kill 400+ enemy soldiers.
I wish they would take these production values and seriously re-think the action elements in COD campaigns. I know it is COD, but less would be more here.
The stealth/spy segments in Black Ops Cold War are excellent. More of that of that please.
It becomes really difficult buy into the whole special ops narrative when the special forces finish every mission with a epic shootout during which they kill 400+ enemy soldiers.
I wish they would take these production values and seriously re-think the action elements in COD campaigns. I know it is COD, but less would be more here.
The stealth/spy segments in Black Ops Cold War are excellent. More of that of that please.
I am about 8 hours into MP, almost solely spent on TDM. Still liking it a lot.
I don't understand the complaints about SBMM. Like this is the only game in which I have seen people having an issue with it. Is it because of the casual friendly nature of COD games?
To me it is same as saying that you mainly want to play against new players so that you can more easily dominate them.
It is never fun for new players get trashed by much better players.
In games that have a large population of players, people absolutely need to be matched with others with the same skill level. If that means that you get less scorestreaks or a lower K/D, then so be it.
I can get high K/D scores by running MP5/AUG in this game, but to me it is more fun to come up with more unusual equipment loadouts and still try to do well against people with equal or higher skill level. The people who stick to the best weapons always are not making themselves better players in a long run.
I don't understand the complaints about SBMM. Like this is the only game in which I have seen people having an issue with it. Is it because of the casual friendly nature of COD games?
To me it is same as saying that you mainly want to play against new players so that you can more easily dominate them.
It is never fun for new players get trashed by much better players.
In games that have a large population of players, people absolutely need to be matched with others with the same skill level. If that means that you get less scorestreaks or a lower K/D, then so be it.
I can get high K/D scores by running MP5/AUG in this game, but to me it is more fun to come up with more unusual equipment loadouts and still try to do well against people with equal or higher skill level. The people who stick to the best weapons always are not making themselves better players in a long run.
Its short but directly to the point, feels like any ounce of Call of Duty fat was cut.
It's almost certainly using the same base algorithm, just tuned. SBMM does feel stronger in CW. It was already too strong in MW. I'm enjoying it though, don't think mounting was the best for competitive multiplayer.
That depends
Remember, they advertised this game with being able to make choices in the campaign.
The problem is SBMM in the public matches feel like it should be what ranked should be. There's not much room on having a "relaxed" game. They need to add ranked, which is heavily rumored, and tune down the regular matchmaking. CoD SBMM definitely feels far stronger than any other competitive game I've played like OW and Dota2.
Pretty much.
The choices given don't really do a whole lot, only your later choices near the very end with some dialogue options can give you one of three ending scenarios.
Sledgehammer's WW2 campaign was fantastic imo. It's right behind IW for my favourite campaign and from what I've seen this one comes close to those 2.
Surprised there isn't more talk about the explosives spam around here. Maybe it's because I stick more to objective capture game types. But those things are everywhere and seem to have huge blast radius. More multi kill grenades than I've ever seen before.
Control in particular is a big winner with my groups so far. And wow is the flak jacket, tactical visor combo a beast. Flak jacket you can basically just ignore all grenade indicators and know that you'll be fine.
A Stoner for lane control and MP5 secondary. Definitely my new favorite class for a while.
Control in particular is a big winner with my groups so far. And wow is the flak jacket, tactical visor combo a beast. Flak jacket you can basically just ignore all grenade indicators and know that you'll be fine.
A Stoner for lane control and MP5 secondary. Definitely my new favorite class for a while.
Surface level kinda,
But there's more going on than that.
Least to say the game makes it clear your group isn't "good guys" and the US is responsible for the main "conflict" in it.
The Russian is once again a rogue agent as typical Call of Duty acting for the Soviet Union but not with it.
they even say if the Soviet leadership doesn't take advantage of the situation he has given them they will be dealt with as well
Trophy system is free points because of this. It's hilarious seeing how many points pop up when you throw a trophy onto a point (especially in a mode like assault)