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What mode are you going to play first?

  • Campaign

    Votes: 1,203 62.2%
  • Special Ops

    Votes: 31 1.6%
  • Multiplayer

    Votes: 699 36.2%

  • Total voters
    1,933

Saucycarpdog

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,359
Saw this image circulating. These are the number of multiplayer maps each game launched with.

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The thing is if you take out the 10v10 maps, you're left with 8 maps. And among those 8 are Piccadilly and Azhir Cave. Ugh.
 

ara

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,022
Fuck it, I'll uninstall and check BO4 out again too. No idea if anyone's playing it on PC anymore, but I'm definitely bored of MW and need something new.

I'll reinstall if they push out new content soon. I'll take new 6v6 maps or more casual fun playlists like gun game.
 

excaliburps

MP1ST
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
337
So it seems to me that the recent patches did nothing to seriously address the camping, soundwhoring, 725 and M4 spam, or the piss-poor maps.

As before Ground War is the only bearable mode because of no SBMM.



If Treyarch builds off of the foundation that MW made then I think I've outgrown this franchise.
I think Treyarch has the common sense to know when the community is outraged. Even pros are outraged at MW. But then again, stranger things have happened.

Seems like whoever was leading communications for Infinite Warfare is no longer there. It's like night and day.
Yeah. They only reply to tech issues now. Subreddit is full of "please reply k tnx bye" threads and I don't blame them. This is the worst way to communicate. Just say you're doing nothing, doing something but it's taking time? Anything is better than being silent.

This game is beginning to look dead in Australia. Struggled to find a game in my native country all night in both Shoot House 24/7 and filtered quick match. Amazing how these big publishers + studios never learn that you don't sell your audience a shit product then act all sanctimonious and silent when people call it out and say "hey guys, this product is shit, mind fixing it for us?".

Same. In Asia and find myself getting matched to non-region players. I don't think it's SBMM, but rather, not a lot of people playing. My friends list only has 2-3 playing at a time. My friends who play COD every year aren't even playing most of the time and not even level 50. Sigh.
 

IvanSlavkov

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,907
Bulgaria
This is the first time I will quit a CoD game a few months after release.
The way the maps are build and the spawn points are just atrocious. The game pushes crouching and camping like no other CoD game before and I do not enjoy it. Today I played a TDM 10vs10 game on the bridge map. Got killed and spawned one time after the other with enemies nearby and on the 5th time I managed to get barricaded in one of the small buildings so I can at least counter. Needless to say, I am dropping the game for now, it is just no fun if you like to run an gun, there are way too many spots from where you can be shot at and currently I personally can not find enjoyment in playing camping style.
 

Kayotix

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,312
This game shines on Hardcore mode for me, almost feels like it was designed around it. Even the hardcore objective modes are alot more fun to play since you feel like you have a chance to kill ppl faster and its more fun to play the actual objective.

Just my 2 cents
 

EvilChameleon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,793
Ohio
Fuck it, I'll uninstall and check BO4 out again too. No idea if anyone's playing it on PC anymore, but I'm definitely bored of MW and need something new.

I'll reinstall if they push out new content soon. I'll take new 6v6 maps or more casual fun playlists like gun game.

Been playing Black Ops 4 on the XBOX One myself. Having fun, and I hated this game at launch. It also seems like all the maps are free? I sure am playing a lot of DLC maps despite not having the DLC.
 

Saucycarpdog

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,359
I mean, if you're using the phrase 'multiplayer maps', then the Ground War and Gunfight maps should be included in that total.
The idea is to only include the maps in the general mode circulation.

It's fine if you disagree. This same discussion was going on when WWII came out and people debated whether the war mode maps make up for the low number of general maps.
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,512
Seems like whoever was leading communications for Infinite Warfare is no longer there. It's like night and day.
I wish I could get that job as communications director at IW...
don't have to do shit beyond put out a reddit post or a tweet or two regarding the most serious bugs every few days and put out patch notes that aren't even correct.
and don't have to respond to almost anything not a technical issue from the fanbase.
 

Buzzbrad

Member
Oct 27, 2017
265
New patch out:


  • Allowing up to 4-player parties in Gun Game
  • Moving FFA to the Filter menu
  • Fixing join in progress for FFA to prevent finding late-progress matches
  • Turning off spawn cameras for Headquarters and Hardpoint
    GENERAL FIXES:
  • Removed infils for both teams when loading into Piccadilly, Search and Destroy
  • Fix for a bug where the thermal optic on the PP19 Bizon would appear white while ADS
  • Fix for the E.O.D. perk not allowing players to hack claymores in FFA
  • Fix for various boosting and out of bounds exploits
  • Fix for laser sights becoming misaligned on the P90 and MP5
  • Special Operations: Minor adjustment to difficulty
 

Cake Boss

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,068
Been playing Black Ops 4 on the XBOX One myself. Having fun, and I hated this game at launch. It also seems like all the maps are free? I sure am playing a lot of DLC maps despite not having the DLC.

I made the jump back and playing MW made me appreciate BLOPS4 so much more. It has its flaws but at the end of the day at least its not trying to be a stupid ass tactical game inside a twitch shooter.
 

excaliburps

MP1ST
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
337
War was fantastic.


Anyway, I wish we could get communications like this from IW.

LOL! $600m, brah! They don't need to communicate. Well, maybe to the bank and swim in their $$$$.

Just played three straight infuriating matches. Entire team won't go after Euphrates Bridge B flag. All are friggin' sniping at the start. Fucking stupid gameplay design by IW, compounded by bad maps, and voila! Shit City. When you're on C, you spawn at this gated part where it takes ages to go near the middle area and of course, you'll get sniped. Just terrible map design.

I hope no one forgets how bad Modern Warfare is, and when this Cecot guy is back for the next one, everyone grills him for ghosting the community, and have him explain his gameplay decisions.
 

DaciaJC

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,685
You can turn crossplay off, but my understanding is that you will only be matched with Mouse and Keyboard players if you are in a party with other players who are using KB+M.

Regardless, they show a generic TV icon for players on PS4, probably because they can't show the PlayStation logo on xbox or something.

Hmm, not sure how well that's working. This has happened already a few times for me in ten hours, and I only play solo:

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m_shortpants

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,254
After hitting 155 a week ago, got bored with this one and went back to blops 4. Holy hell what a difference. 2-4 k/d games with 30+ kills stands in such contrast to this mess. Specialists are still stupid, but I actually found myself having a good time. MW in it's current state is not a good time for me.

The changes to the black market are great too. Played for five days and got enough crates for the weapon of choice bribe. I'll check back in on MW in 2020 or when BR drops.

I did the same and was blown away. I was beginning to come to terms with the thought that my peripheral vision was bad but no, visibility is just terrible in MW.

In BlOps the map is large and easy to read without squinting, the colorblind options actually work, and the player models have small lights on them to aid visibility.

Infinity Ward has opted to prioritize style over substance on the other hand. Yes the game is pretty, but it's at the cost of clear gameplay, player visibility, etc. I feel like I have cataracts and am constantly being vaporized by people I can barely see. This is not enjoyable.

Even the movement in BlOps felt more direct and responsive to me. Because of the higher TTK, you can react to a gunfight, get to cover and outmaneuver an enemy. In MW, the miniscule TTK favors scoping around every corner or just posting up at a window or door. This favors camping and a more run and gun rushing style is objectively a worse way to play if you want to do well.

I hope TTK is longer in the BR if they add armor and health, and that might be great if everything else we've heard is true. But as it is, I simply don't have much fun in standard MW multiplayer. I don't play 10v10 because those maps are terrible so the game is just a handful of maps and shoothouse for me.
 
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ohhthegore

Member
Nov 25, 2017
660
So weird going from Modern Warfare to WW2 every night. I'm running and gunning all day in that one but then I come back to Modern Warfare and everyones afraid to move lol. Ima be screwed whenever they nerf the M4, think I finally found the right combination of attachments that make it feel perf for me
 

Cake Boss

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,068
lol if I hear anyone complain about 3 lane maps again for the next cod, iamma smack the shit out of them. fucking whole franchise was built on 3 lane maps then some turds started complain '3 lane maps are boring' and then we get this bullshit.
 

Dabanton

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,914
I'm enjoying this game.

I only play hardcore though. So the more 'tactical ' speed suits me down the the ground.
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,512
LOL so much for that difficulty adjustment to the Operations,
Paladin is exactly the same.
Juggernauts and enemies coming from every direction with perfect aim.


Im starting to hate IW at this point, they are so fucking stubborn about their decisions.
oh footsteps to loud? decrease them by .5% each update.
Spec-Ops broken? decrease the difficulty by .1% with each update.
 
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Ohri-Jin

Banned
Jul 11, 2019
1,129
The Netherlands
lol if I hear anyone complain about 3 lane maps again for the next cod, iamma smack the shit out of them. fucking whole franchise was built on 3 lane maps then some turds started complain '3 lane maps are boring' and then we get this bullshit.
Man 3 lane maps got me thinking of MW3 maps. 3 lanes as simple as that. It made things simple and only 10% would flank. I have always been a flanker.

Getting the drop on a squad of numbnuts gave me so much joy back then.

They should bring back some old ass maps. I vote hell yay.
 

Orb

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,465
USA
LOL so much for that difficulty adjustment to the Operations,
Paladin is exactly the same.
Juggernauts and enemies coming from every direction with perfect aim.


Im starting to hate IW at this point, they are so fucking stubborn about their decisions.
oh footsteps to loud? decrease them by .5% each update.
Spec-Ops broken? decrease the difficulty by .1% with each update.
I tried Spec Ops like one time and immediately decided I was never going to bother with it unless it sees significant changes. I would like to unlock those Operators but man, I have no idea what they were thinking with this mode.
 

myzhi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,650
lol if I hear anyone complain about 3 lane maps again for the next cod, iamma smack the shit out of them. fucking whole franchise was built on 3 lane maps then some turds started complain '3 lane maps are boring' and then we get this bullshit.
It's not lack "3 lane" maps that's the issue. First, it's the loud footsteps which you can hear someone coming from 20+ feet away through buildings. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and etc lane won't matter if I can just turn, wait for you to turn the corner and smoke your ass. Second, shit loads of line sight from doors, windows and etc where you can get shot from.
 

Cake Boss

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,068
It's not lack "3 lane" maps that's the issue. First, it's the loud footsteps which you can hear someone coming from 20+ feet away through buildings. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and etc lane won't matter if I can just turn, wait for you to turn the corner and smoke your ass. Second, shit loads of line sight from doors, windows and etc where you can get shot from.

This.
 

excaliburps

MP1ST
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
337
Man 3 lane maps got me thinking of MW3 maps. 3 lanes as simple as that. It made things simple and only 10% would flank. I have always been a flanker.

Getting the drop on a squad of numbnuts gave me so much joy back then.

They should bring back some old ass maps. I vote hell yay.

I always rock an SMG with suppressors in every COD. I had amazing flank moments. I had one in BO3 where I was Firebreak and managed to Heatwave four enemies or something!

Found it! https://twitter.com/excaliburps/status/707269098476994560 :D
 

PeskyToaster

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,314
After hitting 155 a week ago, got bored with this one and went back to blops 4. Holy hell what a difference. 2-4 k/d games with 30+ kills stands in such contrast to this mess. Specialists are still stupid, but I actually found myself having a good time. MW in it's current state is not a good time for me.

The changes to the black market are great too. Played for five days and got enough crates for the weapon of choice bribe. I'll check back in on MW in 2020 or when BR drops.

That's because Black Ops 4 pads your stats by using the same way to count kills as Overwatch. If you do any amount of damage or assisting action you get a kill for it.

It's not lack "3 lane" maps that's the issue. First, it's the loud footsteps which you can hear someone coming from 20+ feet away through buildings. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and etc lane won't matter if I can just turn, wait for you to turn the corner and smoke your ass. Second, shit loads of line sight from doors, windows and etc where you can get shot from.

The series didn't evolve with the tools to deal with campers or any of the other issues that come with large maps and high player counts. With infinite mines/claymores it becomes even more difficult to dislodge them. Or like the snipers on buildings in that Ground War map. you gotta work your way up the building dealing with layers and layers of mines and if you die on any of them, they will just restock and redeploy them all. Meanwhile in Battlefield I'll just blow the whole building up. Case closed.
 

thejpfin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,014
Finland
Im starting to hate IW at this point, they are so fucking stubborn about their decisions.
I think we have a new "Michael Condrey" situation here where studio head has a strict vision for the game and any changes to that vision it's a big no.

When this person gets removed, you can expect pretty rapid changes to the game. This is what happened with CoD WW2, but it took 5 months.
 
Oct 27, 2017
16,603
I've been playing Blops4 for the first time since the beta and it feels better to play than MW. There's definitely problems with it but it feels like CoD.
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,512
You think the battlepass is gonna flop?
current state of the game and it not being the only way to get weapons?
it sure ain't going to do what they want it to.

I think Operator Ghost probably sells like crazy though.

I will buy it because I like low key stuff like
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But that isn't the extremely flashy and edgy stuff the fanbase likely wants
 
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Saucycarpdog

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,359
If IW is being silent cause it wants to stick to it's guns, all I gotta say is....

Why?

What about insta dying to claymores, getting shot from enemies you can't see, having to keep an eye on every single window and vantage point, getting heard from a mile away, or having there be one weapon that dunks on all others, is fun?
 

o Tesseract

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,545
Played a FFA where all the top player did was sit in the cubby on Gunrunner with a 725. Literally couldn't do anything about it.

The amount of people who literally just sit is so insanely high in this game. I'm pretty sure people move around more in Siege than most of the community does in this game.

Also, why is this the only game I've seen where you can spawn with someone looking at you on the drop. What the actual fuck?
 
Oct 29, 2017
2,600
LOL! $600m, brah! They don't need to communicate. Well, maybe to the bank and swim in their $$$$.

Just played three straight infuriating matches. Entire team won't go after Euphrates Bridge B flag. All are friggin' sniping at the start. Fucking stupid gameplay design by IW, compounded by bad maps, and voila! Shit City. When you're on C, you spawn at this gated part where it takes ages to go near the middle area and of course, you'll get sniped. Just terrible map design.

I hope no one forgets how bad Modern Warfare is, and when this Cecot guy is back for the next one, everyone grills him for ghosting the community, and have him explain his gameplay decisions.

I thought you said this was the worst multiplayer game ever made?

These posts are just embarassing. Are you so addicted to Call of Duty you can't turn away? You obviously hate this game, no idea why you are still playing it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,557
湘南
LOL! $600m, brah! They don't need to communicate. Well, maybe to the bank and swim in their $$$$.

Just played three straight infuriating matches. Entire team won't go after Euphrates Bridge B flag. All are friggin' sniping at the start. Fucking stupid gameplay design by IW, compounded by bad maps, and voila! Shit City. When you're on C, you spawn at this gated part where it takes ages to go near the middle area and of course, you'll get sniped. Just terrible map design.

I hope no one forgets how bad Modern Warfare is, and when this Cecot guy is back for the next one, everyone grills him for ghosting the community, and have him explain his gameplay decisions.

ffs. Stop playing the game if you don't like it.
 

BizzyBum

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,157
New York
You all gotta do what I did a month ago and just stop playing. You'll feel so much better. I'll probably check out the BR mode when that drops or if they ever do significant changes to the standard MP or add a ton of new maps that are good. Aside from that it's not worth my time.
 

spam flakes

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,853
You all gotta do what I did a month ago and just stop playing. You'll feel so much better. I'll probably check out the BR mode when that drops or if they ever do significant changes to the standard MP or add a ton of new maps that are good. Aside from that it's not worth my time.

pretty much what I did. I'll play occasionally if my friends want me to, even then we get annoyed at the game. Otherwise, I've mostly moved on.