How about the 680 then? I read your post wrong and thought you had the R9-0 with all the attachments, my mistake.
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Honestly i'd probably raise TTK, add Stopping power that makes it the current TTK,
Add dead silence as a perk
Overkill needs to be Perk 2 as well
I'd have Perk 2 slot with:
Hardline
Overkill
Ghost
Stopping Power
maybe Dead Silence
Kill Chain
Restock
Pointman moves to Perk 1
High Alert can move to either 3 or 1
Ghost + Cold-Blooded + Suppressor should be 100% off radar permanently again
I'd remove mounting for everything but maybe snipers unless you have a bipod.
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Yeah happy to share when I get out of work. It's worked really well for me though I believe the 680 got some nerfs recently which is why I'm keen to try out the R9 tonight as well.
Stopping power and dead silence as perks is a big negative to me. OTOH, raising TTK sounds good. Overkill to perk 2 is w/e to me. I personally rather see some buffs to perk 1 slot, or revamps.
I do not think perks are an issue, but always open to changing some things up.
I do not think perks are an issue, but always open to changing some things up.
Without Stopping Power, Dead Silence as a perk would probably the best competition for Ghost in tier 2. I think SP could fend off Ghost well enough to move Dead Silence to Perk 1 or 3, though.
Perk balance in this game is jacked up either way, though. No idea what they were thinking with some of this stuff. Imagine thinking High Alert belongs in the same tier as Ghost and Restock.
Yeah it's pretty shit. Finally won an SND game, pretty sure I'm like 1-10 in those now. Had an ace in one round.
This should help the camping problem a lot. That said, people can and will use silencers. But there's teh ADS tradeoff so there's that at least/
I run this usually and I swear, sometimes it bugs out and I can't see the outlines at all. It got so frustrating that I just swapped it with Battle Hardened.
TheGameRev said it's coming "end of November." I hope his leak is correct. :) Now, at least campers will give away their spots when they're hiding. I just have to battle the visibility issues. LOL!
The perks placements are weird too. Most of the strong ones are in Perk 2 (Ghost, Restock). I also miss Lightweight and that one which lets you run while reloading, and a bunch of other stuff.
If rumors are true, IW will release perks as free DLC, so it might be a case of saving those as free content.
On another note: I experienced a pretty annoying bug. Was on Piccadilly, managed to earn a Sentry Turret, got flashbanged while setting it down, thankfully, I didn't die but the Sentry won't deploy, I can't switch weapons and essentially sitting there waiting to be killed. Sigh. I had a VTOL and Chopper Gunner next and it was so annoying, I just quit. :(
Some of you seriously want Stopping Power to return?! That perk is the biggest crutch perk video games has ever seen simply because you're forced to run it because you're at a huge disadvantage every gunfight otherwise.
how exactly would you counter balance someone running two guns? Or do you mean a negative about it? Because your post reads like it needs something to counter it
That's why you make a dedicated perk tier that only has SP, Ghost and possibly Juggernaut ;)
And then everyone is forced to run SP/Jug because otherwise they're at a huge disadvantage every gunfight and the UAV spam increases tenfold because nobody is running Ghost anymore. Putting in SP and Jug would make the game 5x worse than it already is, throw them in the same tier as Ghost and you might as wel start adding in Danger Close Noobtubes, One Man Army and Commando while you're at it.
There's a reason SP and Jug weren't in the later games: its outright impossible to balance.
Yeah, surprised at this too. Stopping Power can't be a perk or everyone will use it, no? Unless they make it useless?
Perks are fine for me to be honest. Dead Silence can stay as a Field Upgrade if they lower the crouched walking sound or walking sound? Overkill is fine with me too. Past CODs had it and it wasn't really OP. It's OP now since the weapon balancing is whack. Haha!
I do agree that Perk slots should maybe be switched so other Perk tiers can get some love too.
The idea is that you should have to make a significant sacrifice to be invisible to UAV and reduced damage by one bullet seems fair for stealth in a game that's so centered around information on where enemies are located. Ghost currently has no competition in Perk 2. Stopping Power is bar none the best answer to a Ghost heavy meta without making Ghost crappy like in Blops where it forces you into one playstyle. Then the concern is that everyone will run either SP or Ghost, which is why you put them in a separate tier all by themselves.
Overkill would be better if it was in the perk 2 slot like other CoD's. Then you would have to give up ghost or kill chain to use it.
I think they should add a perk that delays claymore detonation like Scrambler Pro did in MW2.
I only want it to balance the other perk issues, some people want higher TTK so it would help somewhat
Even if Overkill got moved into Perk 2 I think its still going to be either-or as crutch perks.
I feel like Ghost, Stopping Power and Overkill at the very least spread it just enough to make some difference
You also nerf it a bit, it was like 40% more damage in COD4.
have it be maybe 15~% more damage.
Overkill's usefulness is skewed a bit due to Amped. That combo is absolutely ridiculous when you're packing a shotgun secondary. Don't think Overkill belongs in Perk 3 tho, so idk what to do about it. But that combo is definitely perk 2 worthy.
After playing this game and being near constantly railed, a buddy of mine told me to try BO4 again. Almost immediately started playing like my old self and not the sub 1 k/d player MW makes me into. Might go back to that until patches fix up MW or Battle Royale.
They could easily revamp bad perks or buff them to make them more appealing. They do not need to rely solely on nerfs or switching tiers.
Godamn, there is a broken spawn in St Petrograd that I keep getting fucked by. Twice already I've watched a killcam of a guy running in that atrium area and suddenly I just spawn right in front of him and they shoot me in the back. I have video of both times, just need time to edit it down.
Mounting should be taken out definitely. Also, pointman should be an option like specialist is if they won't switch the system over to scorestreaks. I wasn't a fan of scorestreaks previously but I see it's importance now.
There's nothing negative, I guess I wasn't clear. I'm just saying that there's no other perk in the 1 slot that can really compete with it so most people pick overkill.
Far from it, actually. It has about 14 shells when fully loaded. The way it works is that you can fire two shells semi-automatic, with an extremely fast fire rate, then you pump it to load two more shells, and the pump animation is as fast or faster than the 680, I believe. Rinse repeat, slay. The only downside is if you end up firing a single shot to kill a target then you'll need to dump a shell to ready up two more or reload to do the same.
Breh do you know how good perk 2 would have to be to make Ghost unappealing
Hardline would have to shave multiple kills off streaks and Restock would need to be like a 10 second cooldown
Why do you want to make ghost unappealing so badly? Ghost is fine. If anything, they should nerf the things that ghost counters. That would make ghost less necessary to avoid frustrating gameplay. Anyway, my main point stands that there are options other than nerfs or moving things. Just cause you thought up a few bad ones means very little.
The problem isn't Ghost but that UAVs are so low and so powerful. Way more powerful than any other killstreak at that tier and above until like VTOLs. I'd say get rid of it and just keep Advanced UAV.
Ghost currently dominates Perk 2 with little competition. CoD is designed so that whoever has first shot will win the typical gunfight, so stealth is generally the best advantage you can have. Putting a stealth perk in a tier where it's going to be picked the vast majority of the time makes no sense to me in terms of balance. Ghost is further empowered in MW due to players being able to chain a personal UAV into a regular UAV with a total of only four kills. Without severely hampering Ghost to the level of how Blops does it, it's not going to be balanced aside from putting something like Stopping Power or Dead Silence in that slot. How would you even nerf UAVs? I'd be in favor of removing Personal UAV from the game since it always felt like a crutch streak to make up for the original lack of minimap, but regular UAV is the same as it's ever been except it costs an additional kill compared to the old MWs.
Yeah. It's so annoying that they keep supporting this kind of childish play. People used to play Halo and jump around no problem, but what's the point of jumping around corners ugh
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Gotcha, I only run it on my sniper class, everything else has EOD or scavenger
Gotcha, I only run it on my sniper class, everything else has EOD or scavenger
UAVs used to be even cheaper in the old MWs at 3 kills (and were forced on your loadout in CoD4 so everyone had them). I wouldn't say the basic UAV in MW is noteworthy in any way, just that it's ineffective because of how many players run Ghost.
When Ghost is an easy pick, it can make it harder to play aggressively due to the lack of information you get. So a lot of people will just slow roll it or choose not to move at all.
Easy nerf to UAV is to move personal to 4 kills and team UAV to 5 kills. Probably makes a big difference too. That is just one simple change too. That plus slightly buffing one or two of the others, or adding functionality to one or two of the others, can be more than enough. It is not worth making the game overall worse just to give some supposed sense of balance to the perk choices in a single tier, if it means adding dead silence or stopping power to permanent perks. That is like shooting yourself in the foot to get rid of a cramp. Ghost being a dominant perk for competitive players is not even a big deal in a game where awareness via audio cues is dominant. I would rather ghost be the only good tier 2 perk than adding stupid shit in like dead silence and stopping power outside of their current placement as field upgrades.
The slot with Overkill needs more valid choices so every single person isn't only using it.
Overkill is too powerful with little trade off.
Overkill was the most balanced in COD4 because the trade off was that you had 2 weaker guns without Stopping power.
Overkill needs to be in a collection with something like Ghost at the very least to balance it a bit.
Have they made it so killstreak destroys give weapon XP yet? That's the only reason I haven't been shooting stuff down.
I mean....you should be shooting them down regardless to prevent the opposing team from winning imo
I am well above positive in the W/L department in this game.
Yup, played a bunch yesterday and today and noticed a lot less people are bothering with it.
Wasn't really an attack against you more so against my team mates over the last decade lol
I'm not above positive with my W/L ratio because I'm the one that always has to have their head pointed up in the sky constantly when it's a steady strem of UAV's
well that didn't last long.
And so it starts them rolling back all the changes
Most likely. Or weekends. I think they released two PS4 patches on a weekend if I'm not mistaken.
Woohoo! Excited for the changes. I already made my SMG class. :D Well, one that's not for camping. Bwahahah!
What about jumping corners is childish?
What's your preferred method of turning a corner?